Exploring Triggers, Tarot, And Spiritual Growth - Podcast

Welcome back to the Nameless Podcast.

This is episode number two.

My name is Jackie Mancuso.

I am joining you today with my good friend,

Victoria.

Say hello,

Victoria.

Hi,

Jackie.

How are you doing this morning?

I'm great.

What are we here to talk about,

Miss Vicky?

Everything and anything,

You know.

But specifically,

I feel like I wanted to tell you a story from my Dallas trip a little while ago.

But before we get into that,

How are you this hump day?

I'm doing wonderful.

I love to be here spreading the good word in podcast land.

Yeah.

Getting some messages from my tarot cards that this is what I'm supposed to be doing.

I'm supposed to be waking up humanity.

Yeah.

Nice to serve the collective.

I love that.

Did you do a poll today?

I did.

I do some polls every morning.

Today I polled about what the mission of our podcast is,

What our strengths are,

And what some advice is.

So the general mission,

According to the cards,

Is that we're here to enlighten some people that may have been triggered by things in the past.

This may be the way for them to dive into their subconscious and look at themselves in a different way.

So trigger warning if anyone needs that.

I love triggering people.

It's so much fun.

That's where our biggest growth comes from,

Is all of our triggers,

Right?

That's so true.

That's so true.

The stuff that freaks you out makes you think later.

Why did that affect me like that?

Why am I so emotionally connected to that thing?

That's fun.

And then what about the other two aspects?

Oh,

Gosh.

I don't remember.

I still live in the moment.

What are our strengths?

Oh,

Our strengths are that we're coming from a place of a heightened consciousness,

Because you and I have both been through some stuff.

We're able to see life in a different way.

So that's the strength that we're bringing to this podcast.

And the advice,

Oh,

Was to just be our authentic selves.

Don't hold back.

Don't worry about the words,

Except for YouTube censorship.

That's what we do have to worry about.

Yeah.

And there's two specific words,

Right?

We talked about before that they censor.

That's what I know of.

Cool.

This thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The outcome of a thing.

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

Good to know.

That's awesome.

I feel like the higher vibration,

The higher consciousness of both of us,

I feel like with this new year,

I'm seeing that more and more often.

I don't know if you feel the same way.

Tell me about it.

100%,

But let's hear from you.

So the most recent thing that really caught me,

And the other also was part of the trip to Texas,

But just literally on Monday,

I was driving to my art class.

And I feel like I have a pretty close connection to my guardian angels.

I always talk to them and thank them and just feel like they're always close by.

And I've had situations throughout my life where I'm like,

Yeah,

You guys are here.

So I was driving down a street towards the highway,

And it was going from 35 miles per hour to 50 because we were speeding up to go closer to the highway.

And we were driving,

It was about five o'clock,

5.

30.

So there was a lot of traffic.

And five cars in front of me started getting slower.

So they started stopping,

Right?

Even though we're supposed to be accelerating,

They started stopping.

So I was starting to stop,

Like a rolling stop,

Right?

And then all of a sudden,

They stopped to a halt.

So we're going from 50 miles per hour to a screeching halt.

And I almost rear-ended the car in front of me,

But ended up stopping in time.

And I look in my back window,

And it's like the parting sea of Moses.

No joke.

Five separate cars,

Two go into the turning lane on the left,

Two go into the side on the right.

And I was like,

Oh my God.

Someone helped you out there.

Yeah.

I just got protected from a multi-car pileup somehow.

Thank you.

I was like,

Wow.

Yeah.

No,

Exactly.

I was like,

Thank you so much.

I did not need that today.

I love when that stuff happens.

Yeah.

Weird stuff like that.

Just like,

You're good.

You're not alone.

And that could have been really bad.

But at the same time,

We all were protected.

You know what I mean?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Like multiple people in multiple cars were in that moment to be able to protect themselves from that going incredibly wrong.

That makes me think about how many other times I have been protected by someone else's guardian around me.

Yeah.

Right?

Just like all those people behind you also didn't wreck themselves.

Totally.

Yeah.

And become your right-hand man.

Are you,

By chance,

Watching His Dark Materials?

Never heard of it.

You should.

I want that.

So you know how they show us reality and fantasy?

Mm-hmm.

The powers that be?

Mm-hmm.

Oh,

My God.

I could speak on that for hours.

Yeah.

There's more reality in fantasy movies than there is in reality movies.

Reality TV is a joke,

And fantasy is where they show the real juju that they don't want anybody to talk about.

They mock it.

They make it look like a joke.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Don't look at this.

It's all fantasy.

His Dark Materials is a show on HBO Max,

And they just came out with the third season,

And they're really getting into the nitty-gritty,

I feel like,

Now with the third season.

But to give a very brief synopsis,

It's about dark matter in their words,

And the characters go between worlds,

Between dimensions,

Because of dust,

And dust is dark material or dark matter,

And this dark matter,

Come to find out,

Is angels in the ether,

Where we can't see dark matter.

We can't visually feel it or whatever,

But it's that ether that we know is there,

That energy kind of flow that we can just get it,

But we don't have a tangible way of- Quantifying it.

Right.

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

Science.

You can't use science with the ether.

Exactly,

Exactly.

So,

Yeah,

It talks a lot about that,

And the fact that in that world exists guardian angels and angels in general,

And they're all around us,

And there's so much around us that we don't actually see and experience,

But it's there.

There's a different way of connecting with the world that you would never have even begun to imagine is available,

And it's magical.

I can't describe it in any other way.

It's magical.

It's so connecting.

You see- I,

At least,

I see the energetic grid that connects literally everything.

I could watch the clouds for four hours.

I feel like a child again,

Because that wonder comes back.

Like,

This is new.

This isn't what I've been looking at for the last 30 years.

Like,

What the fuck is this?

You watch trees breathe.

Yes,

Yep.

Yes,

Yes,

100%.

I watch my dogs shapeshift.

Yes.

So,

In addition to that,

A lot of those things,

You know,

The more you enter that world,

The more it kind of creeps into your day-to-day normal reality here and there.

Oh,

Absolutely.

So,

I feel like,

At this point in time,

I can see energy grids,

And,

At times,

If you stare at your pets long enough,

You can start seeing their aura,

And they can see that you see their aura,

And they look at you in a different way.

They're like,

You see me,

Like,

A different way.

I had that happen with my dogs.

Like,

I was,

Like,

Really into trying to see their auras for a while,

And he was like- my dog,

Prince,

He,

Like,

Changed how he looked at me.

He was like,

And then he's like,

Wait,

You,

Like,

Something changed right there.

Yeah.

Like,

What happened?

I love that.

So,

That's always fun.

But,

Yeah,

We were talking about this the other day.

I feel like,

Once you allow that door of,

Like,

Ethereal to be a part of normal life,

And not just,

Like,

Crazy stuff.

Yeah.

I'm just talking about,

Like,

Talking about that,

Like,

The dark material thing,

Right?

That,

Like,

Added aspect of our world,

And how we interact with each other,

And the fact that we're all connected through this,

Like,

Invisible thread.

You open up,

Like,

A whole new aspect of life,

And it's,

It's literal magic.

I think it's awesome.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

On that note,

So I met this guy that made quite an impact on me.

Yeah.

I'm gonna try to be,

Like,

Fairly,

Uh,

I don't know,

Cautious,

I guess,

With how I speak about this,

Because there were certain aspects of the situation that happened after the fact that kind of,

Like,

Threw me for a loop,

And kind of freaked me out,

To be honest.

Do we need to protect ourselves energetically before we tell the story in any way?

We might,

Yeah,

To be honest.

Protect us and protect the listeners?

Yeah.

Why not?

Yeah.

All right,

I'll,

Uh.

Yeah,

You get us going.

My little thingy thing.

This is all just intuitive,

Um,

But I'm layering all of us with a golden orb of protection,

Sealing in the positive energies that we have worked to create for ourselves,

And sealing out any negative energies that are not in alignment with our highest good.

And then this bubble of protection will surround us throughout hearing this story,

And throughout moving into our day after this story.

And so it is.

And so it is.

Yeah,

I needed to do that when I met him.

I had to do that after the fact.

Learning.

Yeah,

Well,

It's not necessary with everyone,

And you don't really know until you know,

You know?

Mm-hmm.

Um,

So yeah,

So I was on the way.

I decided that I needed to,

Uh,

Check out Dallas while I was in Texas.

I was in Texas for two and a half weeks visiting my parents.

It was like,

Um,

I call it my end-of-the-year family tour.

It was,

You know,

Returning to love,

Or returning to like that home base for me.

Aw.

And,

Um,

I needed,

I wanted to go to Dallas and check it out.

And I've been to Dallas before,

But this trip to Dallas was very different than my last trip to Dallas.

I don't know.

Uh,

Yeah,

It was different.

Um,

But I was headed to Terry Black's barbecue because,

Um,

My partner really wanted to try it,

And he couldn't come with me on the trip,

So I was gonna do like a vlog of me going there and trying this barbecue for him.

Um,

And so to get to Dallas,

I decided to go on the train.

Um,

It was like a metro-type train from Fort Worth to the airport,

So the Dallas airport,

And then from the Dallas airport,

It was more of like a CTA-type train,

Like Chicago CTA,

So just like the shift in the vibe between the two trains.

Um,

So from,

From the airport to downtown Dallas.

Um,

And so I get on the train from Fort Worth.

It's like a metro-style train,

Like an Amtrak kind of train,

And opposite me on the other side is a man with like a big backpack,

And he's looking out the window.

He's all calm,

And he wasn't trying to like talk to me or anything.

We,

You know,

Took this,

Uh,

About an hour-long trip to Dallas,

Or I'm sorry,

To the airport,

And at the airport,

I was like,

I don't know where I'm going,

But I know I need to go to this other train,

So I asked him for help,

And that's how I opened up the door to him.

Like,

He wouldn't have talked to me otherwise.

Right.

I kind of opened up that door because I wasn't sure where I was going,

And he was like,

Oh yeah,

No problem.

Like,

I'm headed the same way,

So,

You know,

Just,

I'll show you where to go.

It's kind of confusing,

But like,

We'll make it there.

Um,

And then we separated because he had a bike with him,

And he went to go get the bike.

So like,

I'm walking by myself outside already,

And I'm like,

Oh,

Where did this guy go?

You know,

Like,

I weirdly already kind of like felt some kind of connection to him.

I literally don't know the man.

Yeah.

Um,

And just to describe him too,

Just to get a visual,

Like,

Think of,

Like,

An all-American military man in a baseball cap.

Okay.

With,

Like,

An under-armor American flag sweater sweatshirt.

Cool.

Super basic looking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like,

Run-of-the-mill kind of.

Yeah.

No,

Like,

Woo-woo,

No nothing.

Like,

Straight,

Like,

Just American military man.

Cool.

Army man.

Um,

So yeah,

So he goes and gets his bike,

And we go to the other train,

And the other train is definitely,

Like,

More urban city,

Like.

Is it more populated on that second train?

Yeah,

Smells like pee,

You know,

Like,

Just,

Like,

Think,

Like,

Red line,

Like,

Chicago red line at,

Like,

No,

Not even red line.

I'd say,

Like,

Chicago orange line,

You know,

Like,

One of the,

One of the less popular ones.

Okay.

You just,

You don't know who you're gonna get.

It's just a little sketch.

Sure.

Like,

It's not that sketch,

But it is also sketch.

You just gotta put your protection on.

Yeah.

Um,

Yeah,

And so we kind of,

I go and,

Like,

Sit down,

And he goes and puts his bike away,

And then he comes and,

Like,

Sits across from me,

And we've already,

Like,

Established a connection at this point,

You know what I mean?

Like,

We already know each other.

I don't know anybody else on this train,

But I know this guy because I asked him for directions,

So we're,

Like,

Connected now.

We're gonna be train friends.

Pretty much,

Pretty much,

Yeah.

That happens to me a lot.

I just,

I like to meet strangers.

You know this.

Yeah.

Um,

It's always fun to me to learn people's stories.

So,

Yeah,

So a bunch of other people get on this train.

Um,

I think we were one of maybe,

Like,

12 people in this cart.

Okay.

And they were all kind of surrounded around us,

But we were in our own kind of,

Like,

Bubble in the middle of all this.

Sure.

Um,

Which I feel like also is interesting because,

Like,

You start talking about these crazy things,

And,

Um.

Other people,

Like,

Can't hear or see you.

Right,

Yes,

100%.

Um,

So,

Yeah,

So we,

We start talking about stuff,

And,

Um,

I don't even know what,

Like,

I asked him to get the conversation going,

But one thing led to another,

And he's,

Like,

Uh,

You know,

You're probably gonna think this is crazy,

But,

Like,

Like,

I think I asked him,

Like,

How,

You know,

What did you do the last year,

Or,

Like,

How did you,

How did you get to where you are today,

Or something like that.

Um,

And more or less,

Like,

He spent the last year,

Um,

Living by himself,

Camping for a year on his own.

Yeah.

Like,

Minimal technology,

Minimal,

Uh,

People outside of going and seeing,

Like,

His kids here and there.

Sure.

But,

Like,

He was living detached from society.

Off-grid.

Yeah.

Purposely.

Sure.

Like,

Avoiding living the dream.

Ah!

Yes!

Another level of off-grid living,

I'd say.

Uh,

Yeah,

A little,

Like,

Rough in it,

For sure.

Okay.

Like,

Like,

Imagine,

Like,

A tent and a backpack.

Sure.

And that's it.

Okay.

You know,

Like,

Rough in it.

Like,

Dealing with your demons in the most raw form possible.

The most supported way possible,

That's what I would think.

Yeah,

Mother Nature right there.

Yeah.

Depends how many demons exist in your mind.

All right,

Good point.

Yeah.

So,

Yeah,

So I was like,

Wow,

That is,

That is,

That's a lot.

Like,

That's,

That takes a lot for someone to do.

Most people can't do that.

Of course.

Most people can't sit in silence for an hour.

For five minutes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like,

It's really hard for them.

So,

Yeah,

So he was like,

Um,

Yeah,

So he was like,

So,

You're,

I'm,

You're probably gonna think I'm crazy,

But,

Like,

And I'm like,

You know what,

Hit me with it.

Like,

I am all here for the crazy.

Like,

I really am.

I will happily talk to people that think crazy things,

Because I think it's so interesting that they exist in that reality.

And he's like,

Yeah,

Do you,

Do you know what 3D and 5D is?

You're like,

My best friend.

And I'm like,

Yes,

I do.

Again,

We are on,

Like,

A CTA train headed to Dallas.

Like,

I met this man five minutes ago,

And he just happens to talk about.

To bring up energy.

The thing that I'm,

Like,

Into.

I'm like,

Yes,

Universe,

Hello,

Nice to meet you,

Through this person,

You know?

Yeah.

Oh,

My God.

And he,

Like,

Lit up,

Because he thought I was gonna be like,

No,

What is that,

You know?

Because that's the normal response.

Yeah.

So,

Yeah,

So I was like,

Yeah,

Hit me,

Like,

What you got?

Um,

And this man just,

Like,

Proceeded to,

I mean,

He,

He's an older guy,

Right?

So,

Like,

He's probably in,

Like,

His late 50s,

Maybe early 60s.

And,

Oh,

Nice.

Um,

Yeah,

So he's in,

Like,

His late 50s,

Early 60s.

So he's,

Like,

Lived a life at this point.

He has,

Like,

Multiple kids,

You know,

Divorced from his wife,

Like,

A whole life story.

Sure.

And,

You know,

Through all this,

He had,

He also,

Like,

Was in the army,

I think,

Either army or military.

So he's,

Like,

Seen some stuff,

Too.

And after all of this,

He's had this,

Like,

Lifelong awakening that's led him to essentially going in and out of 5D reality,

But mixed,

I'll explain more,

But mixed with,

Like,

Pretty heavy duality.

Interesting.

And you could tell,

I'm a pretty light person,

Right?

Like,

I am,

I've seen some bad stuff,

But I'm still light through it.

And I feel like people around me show me darkness for me to experience it,

Because I,

Myself,

Don't exist in that world like other people do.

Okay.

That's just how I've operated so far.

Yeah,

That's just how life works with me.

Sure.

Some people get thrown into the darkness,

And that's how they operate.

Yes.

They put,

Take themselves out of it.

Okay.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And it really just depends on your makeup as a person,

And how you are formulated to deal with those things.

Some people deal with it better when it's them.

Some people deal with it better when they're helping someone go through it.

Sure.

And I am that helper.

Sure.

So he was the opposite.

He was the one that was,

Like,

Going through it.

Okay.

But also,

In addition to that,

He was kind of both,

Because his wife,

His ex-wife,

Was essentially that,

Like,

I guess she had,

Like,

Some mental health issues,

Like,

Bipolar.

So she would,

Like,

Go in this duality as well.

And he,

For years,

Had to,

Like,

Deal with that,

And deal with the kids through that and stuff.

Sure.

And so that showed him a lot of darkness.

And then,

Finally,

After,

Like,

20-some years with her,

He separated.

And he was,

Like,

The biggest addiction in life is to a person.

And I was,

Like,

Oh,

Whoa.

Yeah.

That's heavy.

Like,

Yeah.

That runs deep.

That's heavy.

So much,

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like,

You can separate from someone and still be so connected to them for a long time.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

That's two energies.

You know,

Like,

You can get addicted to drugs or alcohol or whatever,

And,

Like,

It has its own vibration,

But it's not a sentient being.

Yeah.

You know?

But,

Like,

That's two sentient beings coming together and,

Like,

Intertwining all this energy.

Yes.

Yeah.

Deep.

Yeah.

Very deep.

So he was saying that it took him,

Like,

20 years to separate energetically from her.

Holy shit.

And still,

Like,

There's,

Obviously,

With the kids and everything,

There's still ties there.

I didn't mean to laugh.

I'm just thinking,

Like,

You have all this energy,

And then you make another little energy body because of it.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then you're forever,

Like.

Forever.

Forever a triangle or multiple,

You know,

Depending on how many energy bodies make.

But,

Yeah.

So they separated,

And,

You know,

She found someone else,

And I think he found someone else here and there or whatever,

But as of right now,

Like,

He doesn't have anyone like that.

He's,

Obviously,

I mean,

He's able to live in a tent for a year,

You know.

Like,

Who's gonna do that with you?

I don't know.

But his wife ended up having,

Like,

Some new guy,

And this new guy was problematic as well and jealous,

And he was jealous of the connection that this guy had with his kids because,

Obviously,

They're his dad.

Yeah.

Or he's their dad,

And so he started to feel like this new man in his ex-wife's world was,

Like,

Having him followed,

Essentially.

Oh.

Like,

Pretty intensely followed.

Sure.

And I don't know if,

I think there's an aspect to that where,

Like,

He actually was getting followed,

But then there was also an energetic aspect to it where he was energetically being followed by a shadow.

Oh.

Like,

A demon type of entity,

Or multiple type of entities of that sort.

And so he starts telling me,

Like,

You know,

He would try to protect himself from this,

And,

Like,

He pretty much said bye to his family on multiple occasions,

Thinking that everything was just gonna go to shit,

And he was just gonna be lost,

Essentially.

Sure.

And yet,

Every single time,

He was,

Like,

Yeah,

Kind of hard to explain.

Essentially,

What he was saying was,

Like,

Every time he thought he,

Like,

Every time he was,

Like,

Fully vulnerable,

I guess,

Or,

Like,

Fully open,

Or just,

Like,

Just take me,

You know,

Or,

Like,

Do with me what you will,

A way essentially manifested itself.

Like,

Even,

He spoke even about,

Like,

Being at a literal alley trying to escape,

Like,

Someone following him.

Okay.

And thinking that he's at a dead end,

And then he finds,

Like,

A hole in a fence to crawl through and get away.

Yeah.

That kind of thing.

Right.

So that then shifted from,

Like,

That 3D reality of,

Like,

Finding a way,

To he started seeing things,

Lights of sorts,

That would essentially,

And this also kind of ties into the whole dark materials thing,

Which.

Got it.

Watch that.

You'll,

We'll talk about that later,

But essentially,

The way that he described,

And I personally have never experienced this,

So it's hard for me to,

Like.

Put it into words.

Yeah,

It's hard for me to,

Like,

Explain it the way that,

But I'm trying to just,

Like,

Remember how he phrased things.

He would start seeing lights in,

Like,

Coming through the trees,

Or in the air,

Et cetera,

And through these lights,

He would essentially see,

Like,

A different reality.

Like a portal?

Flare,

Like,

Flashes,

Essentially.

More or less,

Yeah.

And the,

The hot,

Like,

The worse it got with the duality,

With the demons,

The more he would see these things,

And the more he essentially allowed himself to just,

Like,

Be.

To let go.

To let go.

Yeah.

The more they presented themselves,

Essentially,

Like,

Like a we got you.

Yeah.

Kind of a thing.

Like.

Wow.

You have nothing to fear.

The more you release that fear,

The more you get,

Like,

Entered into that world.

Sure.

Of sorts.

Yeah.

That,

That's,

Like,

A huge.

You're telling me,

And I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of everyone listening,

But,

Like,

This whole duality thing,

This whole surrender thing,

Like,

I don't know if you saw,

I put it,

Something on TikTok,

Like,

Last week,

About having this pendulum of,

Like,

You can swing to the darkness,

And then you can swing to the light,

But,

Like,

If you're only swinging between the basic emotions of,

Like,

Fear and happiness,

Then all you're gonna see is a little bit of fear and a little bit of happiness.

But then if you let yourself swing all the way back to that nasty shit,

You're gonna swing all the way up to the beautiful things in life.

Yeah.

That's a good way to illustrate it,

For sure.

That was a download.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No,

That's great.

And that's kind of what he was saying,

Too.

He was like,

The deeper I go,

The bigger the demon.

Of course.

Every time.

And it's funny,

Because,

And we talked about this a little while ago,

Too,

Like,

Living in the 3D world,

The 3D world basis is duality.

Yes.

There is,

There is no way to only see the good and only see the bad.

Right.

You will always sway between the two,

Because that is literally the nature of the reality that we live in right now.

It's,

Like,

Upside Down,

That Pixar movie.

You can't experience happiness without knowing what sadness feels like.

Inside Out?

Yeah,

What did I,

No.

Upside Down.

Oh.

Inside Out.

Inside Out.

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

Inside Out.

Okay,

I was like,

I don't think I've seen Upside Down.

Sorry.

Inside Out.

Inside Out.

Yeah,

Yeah.

But yeah,

You can't experience happiness without knowing what sadness feels like.

Exactly.

Yeah.

That's the nature of our whole world.

And my issue,

I mean,

Is there more that you have to say about this,

This story?

Because I kind of want to dive into this emotions.

You can dive in,

And we can come back.

So,

The whole 5D thing,

My misunderstanding,

Right,

I hear all these people talking about,

Like,

Oh,

Love and light,

And,

Like,

5D is this place where duality doesn't exist.

But the more that I'm starting to understand that you do need to see the darkness in order to see the light,

Like,

I think that we're,

In a way,

Again,

Being brainwashed with this 5D,

Like,

Pretty fairy land.

Like,

I don't think there's ever,

Ever going to be a time where all you see is butterflies and rainbows.

That's just not,

That's not how it is.

And I think the ascension to 5D is being able to see those butterflies and rainbows,

But also having the courage and strength to go down to those darkest demons,

But choosing not to stay there.

I agree.

You get what I'm saying?

Yes.

I also feel that,

And we,

This guy and I kind of talked on the subject too,

5D is in the mind.

It's a new dimension in the mind.

Like,

You still,

In your physical self,

Exist in 3D regardless,

Because this is the world that we have.

And this is where we came.

Yeah.

Yeah,

To experience duality.

Because when you're an energy ball of light,

You don't experience anything.

And we get this blimp of a hundred years,

If that,

To experience the spectrum of what it is to be a human being.

Amazing,

Yeah.

So,

You can exist in a higher plane,

A higher dimension,

And understand that,

Like,

At the end of the day,

We are all love and light,

And we are all connected,

And this is just ways to show you,

Like,

The spectrum of human experience.

But at the end of the day,

Like,

It's okay,

You know?

But that is in the mind.

That's not a physical,

You know,

Artificially created happy place.

Right.

Like,

The happy places they create in Chicago,

Where you can take photos and post them on social media.

You know what I mean?

Like,

That's not what it is.

Right.

It's a sense of reality inside the mind.

It's a perspective shift.

So,

As you were describing that,

I was getting this visual,

And I hope that you can help me put it into words,

And I'm seeing it almost as,

Like,

Russian stacking dolls,

Where,

Like,

1D,

One dimension,

Like,

You have one emotion.

It's kind of how I'm quantifying it.

2D is,

Like,

You get a little bit of the swing,

Right?

A little bit more of it.

And then,

Like,

As you go 3,

4,

5D,

Then it seems like everything is better,

Because you're able to get worse.

Like,

You're able to get that much deeper into your shit.

Yes.

I feel like I'm saying the exact same thing as I did last time,

But this is,

Like,

A different visual.

No,

Totally.

Do you remember the energy map?

Yeah.

Graphic?

That's exactly how it is.

Are you talking about,

Like,

Your physical body,

Emotional body,

Mental body,

Spiritual body?

Yes.

This is accessing your spiritual body.

But it goes beyond that,

Into the other dimensions,

Too.

And it's like a Russian nesting doll,

Too.

One is on top of the next.

It builds on each other.

Like,

You need to master step one before you can master step two.

You can't just be 5D without 3D.

Yes.

You have it all.

It's not separate entities,

You know what I mean?

It's 3D within 4D within 5D.

And 4D was the last two years of us being,

Like,

Crack open reality.

Yeah.

Something's not right,

And I'm working out of it.

They're lying about everything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Everything.

I've been saying that for years,

That we were in 4D.

Yes.

Not everyone.

Not everyone.

A lot of us,

Yeah.

Not everyone.

Yeah.

My following,

If people are listening to me blab about this stuff,

They're awake to what's going on for the most part.

You hope so.

At least they're curious.

Yes.

Don't take away my optimism.

What was I going to say?

We're shattering realities,

Remember?

We're triggering people today.

Yes.

If you want to come at us,

Come at us.

But the response of love will come back to you.

I've been hearing from,

Like,

The Truth or Community that I'm following that they're promising,

Like,

Oh,

3D to 5D,

Boom,

That's it.

No middle ground.

Like,

We're just going to skip over 4D.

How the fuck are you going to skip over an important step?

Like,

You have to go through that awakening to,

Like,

I don't want 3D,

But I want 5D.

Yeah,

There's no way.

You have to go through the muck.

You have to.

Otherwise,

You're just going into it blind.

And you're,

Again,

Looking for other people to tell you how to be,

Instead of figuring that out for yourself,

And that's the first,

You know,

Cardinal rule of going through 4D.

You start to be,

Like,

You stop being a news media puppet and you start thinking for yourself.

And I see that so blatantly in 2023,

So often with random situations.

I'm like,

You're literally just parroting CNN talking points.

Like,

What do you think?

You know?

Yeah.

So,

Yeah,

You have to go through that to,

Like,

Start thinking for yourself and even allow the possibility of,

Like,

There is more to what we know in this life.

That's so exciting.

Isn't that exciting?

So exciting.

Yeah.

It's very interesting.

I keep trying to think of,

Like,

A reality situation to,

Like,

Relate this to for people who might have no idea what we're talking about right now.

Well,

Like,

For example,

This guy on the train,

Okay?

I met a random man on the train,

And from initial meeting,

I was like,

I know that you would protect me in this situation if something went to go wrong.

And I feel like that right there is just,

Like,

And also the fact that the universe even sent me him to talk about this stuff with,

Randomly on a train to freaking Dallas to go try some barbecue.

Right.

That's 5D creeping in.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

Like,

Someone was,

Like,

Plopped in your reality,

Which you've probably intended that to happen.

You've probably manifested him,

Like,

In your own way,

And then there it is.

Like,

That too.

The whole manifesting part of 4D is,

Like,

Immediate manifestation,

Right?

Like,

Getting your manifestations really fast.

And I feel like with this shift in year,

Things have been happening much faster.

Yes.

I can't,

Can't put that into words yet.

Something about 2023,

The year of the seven.

Yes.

Spiritual year.

Like,

Things have been happening.

Yes.

Rapid fire.

Yep.

And I can't wait to explain some of those on other episodes.

I think that's a great place to stop.

Well,

Thank you for coming and sharing a little bit of the train story.

I'm assuming there's more?

Uh,

Yeah,

But a bit more.

We'll see.

Yeah,

But that's good for today.

I feel like,

Yeah,

That covered the highlights of what I wanted to tell you.

Beautiful.

Well,

I 100% expect to have you back over and over and over.

Yeah.

So,

I hope you guys enjoyed today's episode,

And we will see you next time.

Thank you.

Bye.

Bye.