Astrology With Phoebe Hawk _ Life, Lessons, & Laughter 9/20

Welcome to Life,

Lessons,

And Laughter with your host,

Glenn Ambrose.

Hello,

Hello,

Hello,

Everybody.

Welcome to the show.

So today I am here to welcome a friend of mine that I met when I first came over here to the DR.

And she became quickly a friend and a soul sister.

So welcome Phoebe Haak to the show.

Hi,

Glenn.

Thank you so much.

I'm so excited to be here with you.

Yes,

It's fun,

Fun,

Fun.

So we're going to be discussing astrology because I haven't had the pleasure of a reading as of yet,

But I've heard you are the one.

So I've heard such wonderful things.

I was like,

I want to do a show on astrology.

And as soon as I got that,

I was like,

Okay,

It's time to reach out to Phoebe.

Thank you.

I'm very honored.

It is,

You know,

It is my true passion and joy.

So thank you.

You're very welcome.

So now I know that you have to run off and grab your computer.

But before you do that,

Like is you want to give us a little bit,

Just a little bit about yourself?

Oh,

Sure.

Absolutely.

So I started studying astrology just as like a,

Like a side passion,

You know,

Never in a million years that I think I would end up doing this for a living.

You know,

I worked in Congress,

I worked for all types of nonprofits,

And then I just kept feeling this calling like I had a spiritual gift that I was supposed to use.

And so astrology has just been a huge help for me because astrology really is a map of the soul.

And so even in my chart,

You can see where,

You know,

My gifts are.

And it really helped me come into my gifts.

And so I work now as what I call a spiritual midwife.

So I help people come into their own gifts,

You know,

To identify what their spiritual gifts are and their spiritual purpose.

And so I run a program that helps people kind of step into that.

And I use,

You know,

Shamanism and I use astrology.

And so those are sort of my main tools that I use to support people as a as a spiritual midwife.

That was beautiful.

Yeah,

It was really a good like synopsis,

An overview of exactly who you are and what you do.

Well,

And I guess the other thing I want to add is that I when I think back on my life,

And I'm only 44,

But you know,

It was a very long journey of coming into my own.

You know,

I sort of like to say I wandered in the wilderness for about 40 years.

And so part of what I hope my journey can do to help others is avoid the wandering the wilderness for 40 years apart,

You know,

Like,

I know there's something I'm supposed to be doing.

You know,

I just need help with clarifying it and kind of walking through the resistance around,

You know,

Really stepping into what I'm supposed to do.

Yeah,

And I think that that's a that's a really good point is like,

I think we all do that,

You know,

I think that that's part of the purpose that all of us that are on a spiritual path have because it's,

It's not,

You know,

We are connected to divine wisdom,

We are,

We are connected to our souls.

Like,

I mean,

We know everything we need to know somewhere,

Right?

It's part of us,

It is us.

So it's not that,

You know,

We can never find our way if we don't have help.

That's not it.

But boy,

Does it make the journey that much easier.

Right.

I like to say that,

Like,

Probably the hardest part of my job is being able to see people's gifts,

And just how powerful and beautiful their medicine is,

But they can't see it,

You know,

It's like,

Some of them wish I could just shake them like,

Don't you see how amazing you are,

You know,

But they're struggling with self doubt and you know all the human experiences that we have to walk through,

You know,

So,

Yeah,

It just makes that journey that much shorter,

You know,

It's,

It's like,

Because when we're like,

A lot of times I'll describe it with,

With the work that I do is like,

You know,

We're walking a path.

And if,

And we all veer off of it,

Right?

But like,

If we veer off of it,

If we're self correcting,

A lot of times we don't even know we veered off of it.

So we're like way the hell over in East Bumfuck before we realize that we were off our path.

And then we feel all out of whack and we're not sure what's wrong and it's like,

Oh,

Okay,

And then we have to do the work to get back onto the path and,

You know,

Whereas if you have somebody that's helping you and guiding you,

Then,

You know,

You,

As soon as you start veering off,

It's like,

Ah,

Ah,

Ah,

And then you stay back on,

And then you veer off a little more,

It's ah,

Ah,

Ah,

Ah,

And so you never get really far off the path and that literally translates into something that could take three years taking three months.

Right.

It's not dramatic.

It's true.

And like,

A perfect example is coming to mind of when I was in Grenada in the West Indies this spring,

And I was doing a chakra balancing and aligning session for one student and then the other student was there sort of assisting.

And we would meditate on the chakra and then would ask,

You know,

Did anything come up?

Does anyone,

You know,

Get any messages?

And the one that was assisting,

I would have her share first,

You know,

And then everything that she had picked up was exactly what I had picked up.

So then I would share what I had picked up and she was just like floored,

Like,

She was like,

I didn't,

Like,

I didn't know I was intuitive,

Like,

I didn't know that I could do that.

And I was like,

See,

But sometimes it just takes someone like being in the right environment to kind of foster the confidence in,

Like you say,

That divine knowing that we all have.

It's just that we've kind of lost the confidence in,

In that knowing.

Yeah,

I totally agree.

It's sometimes it's the confirmation,

You know,

Sometimes it's just a matter of stopping the second guessing where it's like,

You know,

You're like,

Oh,

I think I should do this.

Oh,

Yeah,

But maybe I should go do that.

Maybe I should go do it.

There's so many opportunities and things in the world that can distract us that sometimes it's just that,

Like,

Sometimes it's just saying stuff out loud.

You know,

Weird shit comes in our heads.

Yeah,

And honestly,

Like,

I find that that is the gift of the astrology reading is that someone that doesn't really know you and doesn't know the inner workings of your being is telling you all the things that you know.

But you just really needed confirmation.

And that's the gift of astrology.

It's not like I know,

But your chart knows because it's a map of your soul.

And so I can tell you,

You know,

What your soul says.

And so a lot of times just like,

Just hearing someone else say it,

Like,

I always felt like I had this gift.

And I'm like,

Yes,

It's right here.

It's right there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it gives you that confirmation.

So like,

Add that I'll be like,

No,

You're not.

You just have Neptune and Uranus on your ascendant.

So you're basically receiving messages like crazy.

And you just have to learn how to integrate the messages.

You're not add there's nothing wrong with you.

That's beautiful.

Yeah,

We're gonna have to check my chart because they somebody I get diagnosed with ADHD,

Like,

In my 20s.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they were like,

This,

I don't know what it was a psychologist or something.

And he's like,

Do you have your old birth,

Your old report cards?

And I went to my mom and she had all of them.

Kindergarten through 12th grade.

So I give them to this guy,

I go back the next time.

And he goes,

Nobody said anything about ADHD.

And I was like,

No,

No,

They didn't diagnose it back then.

You know,

When I was in school,

He goes,

I understand that.

And I mean,

I was only in my 20s.

So,

But he was I understand that I know they didn't normally,

But nobody ever hinted.

He's like,

There is not one semester in one year in 13 years of school that there's not at least one comment about you having.

Wow.

He's like,

It's saying that he's saying that you're he doesn't he doesn't think you have that diagnosis.

No,

He's saying that I definitely did.

And he can't believe the school didn't pick up on it.

Right.

No,

You're right.

It's more recent.

Yeah.

But but I mean,

Like,

To me,

It's not,

You know,

I mean,

It's,

I've lived many,

Many years since then.

And I'm I don't take medication.

I don't I never I don't look at it as a,

You know,

There's something wrong with me or a disability.

It's just the way I work.

I've gotten used to it.

Exactly.

Well,

You know,

I thought it was interesting that of all the days that this life fell on that today is the full moon in Pisces.

So I was wondering if you wanted me to just give a little bit of like an overview of this full moon,

Because it's it's quite a powerful portal.

Absolutely.

You and your listeners.

I think that would be perfect.

So that's sort of the big picture.

And then,

You know,

We'll take a look at your chart and that'll be like the you know,

The specific picture snapshot of your soul.

You can't plan it any better than that.

So this full moon obviously is is in Pisces.

And whenever we have a full moon,

The moon is opposing the sun.

Right.

So right now the full moon is that the late degree of Pisces and it's opposing the sun in Virgo because Virgo and Pisces are across each other on the Zodiac.

So the sun is in its final degrees.

So we've got this perfect opposition between the sun and the moon.

So there's kind of an energy of like a tension that wants to be brought together.

Right.

But it's kind of an inherent sort of an opposition is a tension,

But it can be a creative tension.

It doesn't have to be a negative tension like some of the other aspects that we have.

So so we have that.

And then because Pisces because Neptune is also in Pisces right now.

So,

You know,

These these planets,

I like to think of them as ancestors,

You know,

And technically people would say Neptune is a male energy.

I experience it as more of an androgynous energy,

You know,

Very etheric.

But you can sort of think of it as like your fairy godmother.

You know,

A lot,

You know,

A lot of magic,

A lot of healing type of energy.

It's,

You know,

It's the furthest away.

So whenever Neptune is ruling something,

It can create a little bit of like illusion.

And,

You know,

Things can be a little bit foggy.

But the bright side of Neptune is that it's really like the ruler of spiritual healing.

So Neptune rules over the constellation and the sign of Pisces.

So,

For example,

If you know someone that's like highly empathic,

You know,

To the point where they might even like take on people's pain,

Whether physical or emotional,

Most likely you're going to find a major Pisces placement in their chart.

You know,

So if they don't have like their moon in Pisces,

They're going to have Neptune on their ascendant,

Which makes them like a Pisces rising,

You know,

So Neptune and Pisces really rule over sort of the world of impasse and that empathic gift where people just like,

You can tell them a lie,

But they will know right from wrong because that's what that gift gives them.

So like a lot of the people in the Temple of the Goddess have major Pisces placements and they're highly empathic,

Which is obviously a gift we have to learn to work with.

And that gift tends to get exaggerated when the moon is in Pisces.

So because we're,

It's like,

It's like it,

It magnifies our empathic kind of abilities.

So we're sort of,

Sometimes it can be paralyzing for like really empathic people because they're feeling everything and there's,

You know,

There's a lot in the collective unconscious right now.

There's a lot of fear,

You know,

There's a lot that's being felt.

So sometimes people can get a little overwhelmed when the moon is in Pisces just because they're feeling more.

And then the full moon is at 28 degrees of Pisces and Neptune that rules Pisces is also in the sign of Pisces right now.

So they're together.

So not only is the full moon in Pisces,

The full moon is conjunct Neptune in Pisces.

So it's very like,

But in this portal,

It's like literally like the portal of spiritual healing.

Like you can call in like cosmic divine light,

Unconditional love,

You know,

From this Piscean portal and you could really heal and dissolve and release things.

So,

You know,

The full moon is really about release.

It's about completion.

And if you think about something you've been journeying with,

Like say self-doubt,

You know,

Like you feel you've always felt unworthy or you've always had doubt about your value or your gifts or whatever it is.

If you think about how once you journey with something long enough and you come into a place of maturity and integration around it,

It's kind of like it comes time to harvest the wisdom of that of that journey.

And that's kind of another way of thinking about the full moon.

It's like it's a time of completion.

It's a time to lay something down.

So like for me right now,

I'm really working on this energy of self-doubt.

And people always laugh because I know I seem like this big gangster alpha.

Like how could I ever have self-doubt?

Yes,

Me too.

I have self-doubt.

I'm human.

I have self-doubt.

So,

You know,

Just self-doubt around my path and da da da da da.

So it's a great time to really release,

Not necessarily,

You know,

From the mind,

But from the energy body,

You know.

So where these imprints are sort of held inside the energy body and to really call in,

You know,

Call in divine healing,

Energy healing,

That type of thing.

And I did an energy healing yesterday on Instagram that it's on my Instagram account.

I did it live and it's there if anybody needs some divine healing.

And we can even do a meditation later if you want.

But anyway,

So that's a big part of this day,

This portal.

And then we have a couple of just quick aspects that I'll mention just in case people are feeling energies and they kind of want to know what it is.

So one,

We have Venus squaring Saturn right now.

So Venus is kind of like what's going on in our relationship house.

Like how our interactions with humans,

With people is kind of working.

And so Venus is in Scorpio.

So she wants depth.

She wants connection.

You know,

She wants transformation.

And,

You know,

The lower side of Venus and Scorpio is that people,

You know,

It can get manipulative.

That's the low side of Scorpio.

But the high side of Scorpio is connection and divine union.

So Venus and Scorpio right now is squaring Saturn and Aquarius.

So when we have that aspect,

We have a tendency to kind of get into like power trips with authority.

You know,

You could you could,

You know,

You know,

Run into a police officer on the highway or,

You know,

You could get into a fight with your boss or so that type of energy.

So I try to give people a heads up when these aspects are going on,

Because it's kind of like if you're thinking about getting into it today,

Try like next week.

Like it's probably not going to go that well.

So,

So,

Kit,

Is there something in my sign that shows that I have a problem with authority always?

Most of us in our tribe do.

Most of us have major authority issues.

We don't deal with authority.

We can't work for other people.

Like so much for a nine to five job,

Right?

Oh,

I can't do it.

I can't.

I can't do it.

I have major authority issues myself,

Too.

And also,

You know,

Uranus,

Which is very much of a major ruling theme of this year.

So the other backdrop that I just want to provide astrologically to not not just to this full moon,

But just to kind of like where we are cosmically as humanity this year is that the planet Uranus,

Which is the planet of like rebellion and freedom is squaring Saturn,

Which is like the planet of like tradition and,

You know,

Be responsible.

And they're squaring each other like this whole year,

Like,

You know.

Wow.

That's interesting.

It's very,

That's like that's the that's what's happening in the world right now.

Yes.

And you said that that's happening the whole year.

Yeah.

So there's like three specific squares that that happened,

But because they're both also going backwards this year,

They squared,

Then they came apart.

Oh,

The power just went off.

Speaking of Uranus,

That's so funny.

To shut down electrical systems,

Hopefully it will interrupt the live.

So,

So Uranus and Saturn are both in retrograde.

Then they went in reverse and squared again.

And now they're both about to go forward and they're going to square again.

So it's happening this entire year.

Wow.

So that's that's yeah that and that's exactly what's happening in our world where we're going from where we're transitioning from the old traditional way of being the way humanity's been for thousands of years.

And we're transitioning into creating something new,

An actual freedom,

Something that's based on freedom because we don't.

Yes.

Which is what the Uranus is about.

The Uranus wants freedom and awakening and truth.

That is Uranus's ultimate goal.

And that's the paradigm we're ushering in now.

So that the old is being confronted with the new.

How perfect is that?

You know,

So this is and this is like this is part of the the the wave that I feel like if you're if you're going to try to.

This is I've been telling people don't try to make it through what's happening.

You know,

Like because we have this tendency that just when when things get real and they start getting tough,

We try to,

You know,

Like close like close your eyes and just look through it.

Like,

Yeah,

Just like,

OK,

Well,

We'll just hang on and this will be over soon and then we make it through and then all of a sudden like it's we haven't learned or grown.

We just held.

And so we missed that growth opportunity.

And it's like the people that I know that are embracing this covid energy,

You know,

For the last year and a half,

Two years.

It's the same as what we're talking about now.

It's not a problem,

Right?

It's an opportunity if you see it as such.

If you have time to usher in a new paradigm that's healthier for you,

Right?

Have all the energy of that behind you.

Yeah.

And it's going to try and it's going to transition quicker and easier if you choose to do that.

If you choose to hold on to the old traditional and just hold back and wait and just hope till it's over,

It's it's going to be painful.

Right.

Because it's a it's a system that's that's crumbling.

It's a crumbling system.

And,

You know,

One of the well,

The slowest moving planet that we have in our solar system is Pluto.

You know,

Pluto takes 240 years to go full circle and he takes 20 years just to get through one sign.

Meanwhile,

The moon goes through one sign every two and a half days just to give you like some perspective.

So Pluto is at 25 degrees of Capricorn right now and he's got 30 degrees to go.

So he's got five more degrees of Capricorn and Capricorn is the old way,

The old structure,

The patriarchy,

The old.

So he moves so slowly.

He's just like he's just breaking it down like molecule by molecule.

You know,

He's a processor.

Not an action taker.

He would be a seven like us.

He processes energy.

So it's like it's just like,

You know,

Like the system,

The tower is crumbling,

It's falling and we can have the illusion of trying to hold on to it.

I just realized there is a hawk literally sitting right,

Of course,

Right in front of me.

Of course.

Yeah,

On a light on a light post.

So,

Yeah,

It's like it's like trying to hold on to something because there's this illusion of security outside of ourselves,

But it's falling apart.

So there's not really anything to hold on to.

Yeah,

And you just summed up COVID.

You know,

That's what's been happening is like people had this illusion of safety,

You know,

And it's like and there isn't safety.

Like,

You know,

Like jobs and all that stuff.

Well,

No,

I think I need it was priceless.

Somebody said to me once and I don't mean to like make fun of or anything,

But it was just so it took it to another level.

So I use it as an example.

And it was they were saying how.

Oh,

Shit,

I just lost my train of thought.

Oh,

We were talking about like holding on to something that's crumbling like there.

Oh,

Yeah,

The safety aspect.

So lots of people go,

Oh,

You know,

I want a stable job.

Well,

Somebody took that to another level a little while ago and they said,

I used to have a stable job and I want to get back to one.

And I was like,

Well,

Wait a minute.

Like you,

You,

You can't used to have a stable job because the whole point of stability is that it's stable and that you it's not going anywhere.

So if you don't have it anymore,

It really wasn't stable,

Was it?

You know,

Like,

You know,

A lot of what happened.

It's those old systems that there they were illusions.

They were not sustainable.

They were never going to last.

And we're starting to see that now.

And we're going,

Oh,

That it was an illusion of stability.

It wasn't actual stability.

I need to open up to a new freedom that actually where I can find true safety,

Eternal safety,

As opposed to illusional temporary safety.

Right.

Right.

Exactly.

And,

You know,

The planet Uranus that I was just talking about that is bringing in freedom and,

You know,

It's bringing in rebellion and revolution for the purpose of freedom and awakening,

You know.

And so Uranus right now in Pluto and Capricorn,

They're they're working to teach us that looking outside of ourselves is inherently an illusion,

You know.

And and so when we tune into ourselves and then we realize that,

You know,

Life is just an experience of energy and we start to release our fear of death.

You know,

Then we can realize that there's really nothing to be afraid of on this earth plane,

You know,

Because when we can kind of have that perspective of life,

Life is not just this material table and body,

You know.

And then the more we go into the internal,

It's like,

You know,

It just becomes a continuum,

You know,

It's like it's just a different part of the river that you're swimming into when you go into death.

Yeah,

It's just a transition to a different different form.

And it's yeah,

It's that that's where like for me when I really got that I was I was working with clients many years ago and I noticed that everybody was like most people have control issues.

And I started really seeing it with people with very large loving hearts.

And well,

I mean,

I started in other people,

Too,

But then I started really seeing it with these people with large loving hearts.

And it was funny because when I would start pointing it out with them,

They would be so shocked.

They'd be like,

Oh,

My God,

You're right.

I do have control issues.

I never would have guessed that,

You know.

And so I was really that was a pattern I was noticing and I was like,

Well,

Why do so I sat alone and I was like,

Why do why does everybody have control issues?

And it's like,

Well,

They're searching for safety.

It's like,

OK,

Well,

That makes sense.

So so they're trying to control things to give themselves illusion of safety.

So so does everybody want to feel safe?

It's like,

Yeah,

That's inherent.

That's innate within us.

Everybody wants to feel safe.

I was like,

OK,

How then how the hell do we feel safe?

Because you can't with the control thing is just an illusion.

So how do we feel safe?

And I was like,

We're in a transitional world.

There is no safety here.

Right.

You can't.

So I was like,

Well,

Why would we all be made inherently with something that we can't desire for something we can't have?

You know,

And I was like,

Well,

If we if we inherently want it,

Then we should be able to have it.

I just want to tell you,

I don't know if there's like a storm rolling in,

But all of a sudden your voice is really crackly,

Like my phone rang and then your voice got crackly.

Oh,

Yeah,

I don't know.

I heard you.

I can hear some crackling,

Too.

Yeah,

There's some background noise.

A storm coming.

Hey,

Hey,

Hey,

Phoebe.

Hey,

Phoebe.

Sign out.

Sign out of your sign out of your browser and come back in.

OK,

I'll come back in.

Sounds good.

OK.

So so I will.

Yeah,

So well,

I'll finish that story.

So I was talking about,

You know,

Trying to feel that sense of safety.

And I and it isn't temporary in the temporal realm on Earth.

There is no safety here.

So where is there safety safe?

There's only one other dimension.

And that's the spiritual dimension.

That's the eternal dimension.

That's where the safety lies.

So if we can connect to to the eternal realm and understand that we are eternal and derive our sense of safety from that,

Then we can interact with life more in a more relaxed place because we're not always trying to control things and protect ourselves and live in fear.

You know what I mean?

So so this is kind of how.

You know that this is how I think we're supposed to be living life.

It's we take it kind of too seriously.

We lean in too much.

Like these decisions that we make are so important where everything changes.

It's like it's it's you know,

This is supposed to be an adventure,

Experiential.

We're supposed to experience things.

We're supposed to experience storms in the middle of the live show.

You know,

And where we're supposed to experience different things.

So if if we can anchor into a feeling of safety,

Knowing that we're eternal,

Depending on what your beliefs are,

Sometimes knowing that you're eternal is enough or dependent,

A connection with a loving God.

Beautiful.

You know,

So if you can have anchor into that and then it's like being in a movie theater,

Like when you're in a movie theater,

You're anchored in safety.

You're like if somebody pulls out a gun on the screen,

You don't dive.

It's you.

But yet you can engage yourself enough to feel all the emotions.

You can feel happiness and sadness and frustration and and your heart rate can go up and down,

You know,

So you can still experience things that are happening on screen without actually thinking that they're real.

You know,

And that's how we're supposed to be going through life.

It's not real.

It's temporary.

It's just we're here for a little while.

And at the end,

You win.

So I'll let you in on a secret.

No matter what you do here in the end,

You win.

You go back to the other side.

So we can anchor into the safety,

You know,

Of the eternal.

Hey,

Phoebe's back.

Hey,

And I got my computer,

So I'm going to pull up your chart right now.

Perfect.

So I just kind of finished telling them the story about how,

You know,

If we anchor into the safety of the eternal,

Then we can just interact with life in a little bit more of a playful way,

A little bit more relaxed.

So I just kind of finished that mindset so we can lean right right into right into whatever you got.

And I do want to throw something out,

Too,

Before we get into the next thing that.

Can you see the comments on your screen?

No,

I can't see them.

Let me go click on the chat.

Will I see them?

Chat with other.

There's a private chat or a comment.

Oh,

Wow.

Yeah.

So Laurie was saying and I want to say hi to Sarah and Laurie,

Of course,

And everybody else watching and listening.

But Laurie was saying maybe we could touch on this before we jump into the kind of second half of the show.

Absolutely.

And I think that,

You know,

I'd love to get your input on it.

So I thought I would jump in on this offering.

I've been told that I have a very bright aura around me more than once in my life.

What is the significance of that?

Also,

Who created the charts that astrologers refer to in their practice?

So we got two little questions there for you.

I'm having the same thing happen with the feedback.

What is going on?

Am I still muted?

Can you hear me?

I can hear you.

OK.

OK,

So the aura,

A bright aura.

I mean,

Usually the way I would interpret that is just to say that you are what some people would call a light worker.

You know,

That you are connected to a.

A higher source,

You're connected to sort of your your higher source,

Whether that's a starseed portal,

You know,

You know,

Your your spiritual lineage.

You know,

Your your light body is is very kind of like developed,

You know,

And has a higher frequency.

So that would be a way that would be one way of talking about an aura,

You know,

That you're you're you're channeling.

You're connected to like a higher source.

Does that make any sense?

Yeah.

And then the question about where do you.

Where does the charts come from,

The astrologers pull up?

So we're very blessed now in this in this day and age,

Because like the.

The technology that we have access to it literally just like.

Can you hear me OK?

Yeah.

OK.

The technology that we have access to it basically can map the location of the planets throughout time.

And so it pulls up literally where each of the planets were in the moment that you were born.

And that's what creates your natal chart.

And then it can also pull up at the exact same time where the planets are right now.

So,

For example,

You know,

When I was born,

Saturn was in the sign of Leo.

You know,

Saturn right now is in Aquarius.

So Saturn is actually opposing my own natal Saturn.

My natal Saturn means where Saturn was in the moment that I was born.

Does that does that make sense?

So you can see both where the planets were in that exact moment you were born.

Yeah.

You can see where the planets are right now in relation to your chart.

OK,

So that so is that kind of like comparing those two kind of gives you the information that you go by.

Right.

Well,

So a natal chart reading is really focused on the imprint that the planetary ancestors made in the moment you were born.

And then the transits,

For example,

Can show you,

OK,

Jupiter is about to enter your second house of your self-worth,

How you earn money,

Your income.

So you might want to really think about launching that program next month when Jupiter has entered your second house.

So that's kind of an example of how a transit would inform,

You know,

A part of your life.

OK.

Yeah.

Does that does that answer the question?

I think so.

And that like that,

I mean,

Well,

Where were the charts originally?

Like who came up with astrology and said,

Hey,

If your planet's there,

It means this.

Well,

The astrology that we kind of refer to as,

You know,

Western or Greek based astrology is really coming out of out of Egypt.

You know,

So it's it's it's based on very ancient teachings of the planets.

And it's very mathematical.

Astrology is very like it's very much of a mystical science.

You know,

So that's why,

For example,

When we're doing a reading for you,

We want to know exactly the exact moment that you were born,

Because it's all based on mathematical calculations.

And so,

You know,

Like up until about 150 years ago,

Medical students in the United States,

Medical doctors were trained in astrology because there's a whole field of astrology called medical astrology,

Where you can basically predict what types of health issues people are going to have based on their natal chart.

I love it.

I love it because it's like,

You know,

Everything right now,

If you,

You know,

Whoever is is.

You know,

Watching this or listening to this,

Like if you're curious,

Start diving into anything that says ancient wisdom,

You know,

Start looking back to ancient wisdom,

And you're going to see how not only it still applies now,

But it's even more prevalent.

Like you get like all the solutions that we have to our social issues are in divine wisdom like that.

You know,

Like we actually lived on this planet in a healthy way that was sustainable in alignment with nature at one point.

And some of the indigenous cultures still do.

So it's like,

You know,

The wisdom that we think was so freaking smart,

You know,

Because,

You know,

We're all scientific and we're dissecting things and explaining things and all this stuff.

And you got all this ancient wisdom is like it already has it.

It was figured out thousands of years ago.

Right.

Right.

Right.

We're going through a process of remembering the great remembrance.

Yeah.

Oh,

Absolutely.

We're not making up new stuff.

We're remembering this is like I saw that years ago and I was like,

I noticed that the teaching the names of the teachings is even in the process of changing right now.

Like,

You know,

20 years ago,

Like eight.

Well,

I started like 18 years ago when I woke up.

It was new age,

You know,

And there was this big New Age movement.

And now it's New Age ancient wisdom movement.

And I think we're going to be dropping a new age.

Finally,

Like becoming,

You know,

Like yoga,

Like yoga,

You know,

Used to be so like very ancient wisdom,

Not even,

You know,

It seemed so weird.

And now it's like the most mainstream health food stores.

I was raised by hippies.

So like I literally grew up going to like natural like food co-ops.

You know,

It was very alternative.

It was not mainstream at all.

And now,

You know,

It's like Whole Foods,

You know,

So it's like it's slowly ancient wisdom is slowly becoming normalized,

Which is amazing.

Oh,

Yeah,

Yeah,

It's I mean,

I love it.

This is this is why and I think that that's important because in if we pay attention to the noise.

It's loud and it's ugly and it's scary,

But that's just the that's just the surface crap.

That's just all the noisy surface crap.

That's what you know,

Underneath there's that great remembrance that it's and we're falling back into love with each other,

With the earth,

With ourselves.

You know,

We're falling back in love with all of that.

And it's a beautiful thing.

And when this is why I like associating people with people that are on this wavelength,

Because,

You know,

Even with all the noise on the outside level,

We can just get back to the real hopefulness of what's actually transpiring right now.

And it's and the the astrology,

One of the things that I like about astrology,

People ask me all the time,

They're like,

Are you into astrology or other things,

Too,

You know?

And I always go like,

No,

No,

I'm not really into astrology,

But I've been around long enough to know that there's something to it.

Like it's just because it's undeniable because I'm not into astrology and I'm skeptical about just about everything.

Right.

So so I'm just standing on the outskirts and then all of a sudden it's like I'm sitting there going and,

You know,

Like working with clients also and I see patterns.

And then all of a sudden somebody that's into astrology goes,

Yeah,

Well,

Did you know that this was going on?

I'm like,

Are you kidding me?

That explains all the patterns,

You know,

And that's happened so many times that it's just undeniable.

You know,

It's just so I don't you know,

I'm not an astrologist.

I don't you know,

But what it is,

Is like I said,

I just I've been around way too many,

Too long,

And I've seen way too many times to pretend that there isn't something to it.

I did just plain it.

You know,

One of the first times that I started like getting into the astrological transit is with Mercury retrograde.

Because,

You know,

This was maybe five,

Six years ago,

I wasn't paying attention to the retrograde calendar for all the planets like I do now.

And,

You know,

For a couple of years,

It's like I would just look up and I would just be like,

What's going on?

Like and then I started realizing,

Oh,

Mercury's in retrograde.

You know,

Like things have you know,

The frequency has shifted.

And,

You know,

Like when Mercury's in retrograde,

People,

You know,

The positive side is that people are able to kind of like review and all of the R.

E.

S,

You know,

Review,

Repair,

Go back over things,

You know,

Get clarity by reviewing things.

It's kind of a chance to do it the right way.

But the challenging part of it is that the Earth and the planet that kind of ruled our logistics,

They're they're they're moving in opposite directions as opposed to moving together.

So there was like a lot more car accidents and a lot of miscommunication.

There's a lot of technology malfunctioning.

And,

You know,

And it's just classic.

Every time there it is.

That's the same thing every time.

You know,

So little by little.

People know what's interesting is people are so addicted to fear that like I have heard about Mercury retrograde and its problems.

I can't even count how many times in the last 18 years.

I mean,

I hear it constantly.

It's all over social media.

It's everywhere.

I have never heard the positive benefits until right now.

Oh,

Wow.

Well,

Never.

One of the reasons that I like to tell people about the positive and some of the challenging aspects is that,

Like,

For example,

I'm going to drive somewhere when Mercury retrograde.

I'm literally going to,

You know,

Mercury wants to let you know that he's in charge.

Right.

So it's kind of like,

OK,

I respect you and I want to harmonize with how you're moving.

Right.

Like I,

I,

I just basically say a little prayer of being in harmony with my environment.

Right.

So it's like things are moving differently,

But I'm still in a place of oneness with my environment.

And,

You know,

Knock on wood.

I've never been in a in a car accident when Mercury's in retrograde.

But the positives are really that it's like.

OK,

So just to take it to another level,

When I was born,

Mercury was in retrograde.

So my mind basically works backwards than people who are not born with Mercury retrograde.

Like if you say,

Phoebe,

What do you want to do today?

I'll start at nine o'clock and move backwards.

My kids are like,

I don't want to start at the end of the day.

And I'm like,

That's just how I think.

Like,

I might come to the same conclusion as you,

But I'm going to arrive at it like at a completely reverse direction than than you.

Because I just look at your chart and you do have a retrograde planet,

But not Mercury retrograde.

So like when Mercury's in retrograde.

Right.

The whole world is is moving on my pace.

So I'm super power mode when Mercury's in retrograde,

You know,

Because it's almost like your mind is more attuned to spirit.

It's almost like it makes the mind more aquarium.

It gives you more of a spirit tuned mind.

So it's great for like tuning into sort of a larger perspective on things.

I mean,

Yeah,

That's what you're supposed to do.

And Mercury's in retrograde is like you're not supposed to start new things.

You're supposed to go back and review and clarify kind of what's already been initiated.

So like,

Say you have a misunderstanding with someone when Mercury's in retrograde.

That's a great time to go back and like reapproach the conversation and kind of bring resolution to something that was like misunderstood.

So I like that you're not you're not allowing the planets to stop your life,

You know,

Because I have this thing about giving my power away.

I don't give it away to anything.

And I don't give a shit if it's a planet or God or anything.

I just have this thing,

You know,

It's right.

The rebel part.

Right.

So with me,

I remember when I opened up my spiritual center in Rhode Island,

It was Mercury retrograde.

And people were coming at me left and right going,

Do not sign a lease.

It's Mercury retrograde.

And I was like,

I will slow down.

I will read the lease over very carefully.

I will make very mindful choices,

But I'll be damned if I'm not if I'm putting my life dream on hold because of a planet.

It's not going to happen,

You know.

Right.

So it's more like it's more like if you're signing a contract with Mercury retrograde and that's just what you're choosing to do.

It's just basically saying read the contract two or three times instead of just once.

Right.

See,

That's what I like,

Because anything other than that,

You're handing your power away.

And I don't have my power with anything.

So,

You know,

I follow my own thing.

Well,

The only other thing I wanted to mention while we're on the retrograde topic is just that almost all the planets are in retrograde right now.

Like literally like Mercury just went into it into his shadow phase.

So he's about to go retrograde in a couple of weeks.

But then all of our outer planets are in retrograde.

So Pluto,

Jupiter,

Saturn,

Neptune,

Uranus,

I think is it Eris?

Eris is an asteroid.

Everybody's in retrograde right now.

And so when the planets turn retrograde,

Their energy turns inward.

So people have a tendency to become much more kind of internal in their process.

It's kind of like a healing incubator.

It's like it's sort of like a pressure cooker of healing and processing energy.

Wow.

So it's we're at the tail end of retrograde season.

Like three planets are about to turn direct.

And for me,

It's going to be like a sigh of relief.

But like the last couple of weeks,

The next couple of weeks,

There's a lot of deep process.

It's a very,

Very like shamanic type of energy.

Yeah,

I've I've definitely noticed that there's been times where,

You know,

It's like you're just in that energy and you're like,

I wake up and I'm like,

Usually I wake up and like everything's cool.

And then I'll start my day and also the energy sets coming up and I'm like,

Irritable and and there's nothing wrong.

You know,

I'm living in paradise on top of a frickin mountain.

So like this.

So I'm like,

The only thing that I found that I can do is just really release,

Release,

Release.

Yeah.

And like trust the release process,

Even when sometimes we don't even know what we're releasing because it's just so old.

I never know what I'm releasing.

Almost never.

I'd say at least 90,

95 percent of the time,

I don't know what I'm releasing because I think it's I think it's because I've done most,

You know,

A lot of my work from an intellectual standpoint and a conceptual standpoint.

So a lot of my work on an understanding like I understand how life works and how I interact with it and spiritual law and all that.

I get that.

So like for me,

It's just,

You know,

Like I'll I'll be releasing and I'll be like,

Yeah,

I don't know what this is.

And every once in a while I'll be like,

Hey,

Is there anything I should know about this energy being released?

Like,

Is there a lesson in here for me to learn?

And I'll get still.

Nothing.

All right.

Just keep releasing.

Well,

Remember the last time we saw each other?

Oh,

Yeah.

I mean,

I was grounded for two days just doing nothing but releasing.

All I could do was just lay on the earth and just just wait for it to just process through.

That was remember when the UFO or whatever that thing was,

When zooming by the Dominican Republic coastline,

There was pictures all over Facebook that people had taken.

Yeah.

And that was that was and I was you were grounding and I was walking,

But I happened to be walking by.

Or maybe I was meeting you,

But anyway,

You can't do it.

You can't bring me something.

Remember,

OK.

Yeah.

For my releasing process.

Yes.

So so so I did know where you were.

But like I was I was walking and I was like twitching because the energy you were releasing.

Yeah.

Yes.

So you were releasing in your way and I was walking and I was just twitching.

Just like because that's what I do when when energy is releasing.

A lot of times my body literally twitches.

You know,

I'll just be sitting there and it's like I think I told you one of my best friends has that too.

And you two are the only two I've ever met to do that,

Like she'll be sitting next to someone that has a block in their second chakra.

And also in her second chakra starts jolting like she's releasing for them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I asked for it.

I'm like,

You know,

Like I was doing when I first woke up,

I was getting all these spiritual healings done and all.

And,

You know,

Like I could kind of tell something was going on,

But like I couldn't.

And I was like,

You know,

I would like to feel energy movement.

I would like to feel that,

You know.

So I asked spirit and I started twitching.

And I was like,

Oh,

That's cool.

I could feel a pop when the energy released,

You know.

That's cool.

This is cool.

This is neat.

And then after about two or three years,

I'm like,

OK,

Could we stop this?

This is like I'm I'm getting a little self-conscious here.

You know,

Right.

Walking around twitching and you know,

And having.

And yeah,

I've asked for it to stop a few times,

But it hasn't yet.

So.

Wow.

I guess I think it's interesting.

Very interesting.

So,

Yes,

October 6.

So literally,

In like,

You know,

Two weeks on the new on the new moon in.

Let's see.

That will be the new moon in Libra.

The sun and the moon will both be in Libra.

October 6.

Pluto will go direct in Pluto's the heavy hitter.

Pluto's the king of the underworld.

He's the processor.

You know,

He's the one that wants us to do our deep work of releasing the patriarchy,

You know.

So,

You know,

It's funny.

You know where I'm going to be on October 6?

Where?

On top of Pico Duarte with Tahira.

Really?

That sounds perfect.

That's the.

That's what.

Is that the tallest mountain in the D.

R.

?

Yeah,

That's the tallest peak in the D.

R.

Wow.

You know,

I've heard on that trail there's like some ancient trees that like appear to be crystals.

So let me know.

Bring your camera.

I'm sure you will.

Oh,

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've heard some interesting stories about about that.

That mountain.

I'm sure we'll see.

If anybody's going to see it,

We will.

Yeah.

Well,

You know,

The interesting thing is that it's like there's just this energy of like.

We've kind of been wading through mud the last four years,

The last four months,

Like Pluto went retrograde in April.

And then everybody else followed suit.

And then Pluto will go direct October six,

Then Saturn and Jupiter.

So everybody will start to go direct and it will be just a little bit of an easing of that,

Like deep process that we've been in these last four months.

So I love that.

I'm I'm excited.

Well,

Yeah.

Well,

We're we're getting close to an hour.

You want to touch on my chart a little bit?

Yes,

Absolutely.

I have it right here in front of me.

And let me just confirm.

So August 7th,

1968.

Yes.

Six forty six p.

M.

Yes.

All right.

So you have a major stellium of Leo.

So you're quite quite the lion.

You've got sun,

Mercury,

Venus,

Mars,

All in Leo.

And then you have your moon and Aquarius.

So the rebel,

I would definitely say,

Is like well installed.

The moon and Aquarius is not only the rebel,

But it's like the maverick.

You know,

It's like one like one moment I'm here,

One moment I'm there.

It's very much like a like Shiloh.

Shiloh has moon and Aquarius also,

You know,

So it's like it makes it makes you very versatile.

And also like Aquarians are very comical.

They love humor.

They're quirky.

You know,

It's like that type of energy,

You know,

So you're basically almost all Leo and then moon and Aquarius.

You are for your for your personal planets.

You're all Leo and all Aquarius.

And then,

You know,

You have some variety in your outer planets.

And one of the things that's interesting is that you've got a lot in your eighth house in the eighth house is ruled by Pluto.

So it's all about like your shamanic,

Your shamanic power.

You know,

Pluto is like not only sort of the trauma that we go through in order to bring things to the surface to reclaim our power,

But it's also like the shaman.

You know,

So you've got all of the heavy hitters in your eighth house of Pluto.

So so basically what that's indicating is that you have quite a lot of healing abilities,

You know,

Like like that,

You know,

Maybe on your path,

You will progress to,

You know,

Not just offering coaching,

But maybe you will eventually be offering shamanic sessions or,

You know,

Some type of actual healing modality as well.

In your career house is is ruled by Scorpio,

Your tenth house of your career is ruled by Scorpio.

So,

Again,

As a as a life coach,

You're really in the business of like transformation,

You know,

And so that's what Scorpio is about.

So it's like you're,

You know,

You're in the you're in the right field,

You know,

And then the way that you kind of tune into spirit is also interesting because you have Neptune,

The sign of spirit in your career house.

So it's like spirit is working through you to be a transformer,

You know,

For you to bring transformation to the world through your career,

Which is exactly what you're doing.

Bam.

Take the other thing about your card is that you have you have one planet in retrograde,

Which is Saturn and the system that I use to translate retrograde planets when Saturn is in retrograde.

It says that you're redoing a lifetime.

So like that there was a lifetime where there was a lot that was unresolved.

And so those people who believe in past lives,

Which I'm one of those people,

We would say that Saturn retrograde means that you on a soul level,

You feel confident that you could come back and essentially resolve and redo that lifetime.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

So a lot of times people who have Saturn and retrograde,

They'll they'll be told,

Like,

Why do you take life so seriously?

You know,

But people with Saturn and retrograde are like,

No,

I'm going to get it right this time.

Like,

I didn't come here to mess around,

You know?

So I don't know if you relate to that at all,

But you do have Saturn and retrograde.

Yeah,

No,

I do.

I mean,

It's it's.

You know,

It's the that's kind of how I am.

It's all or nothing,

You know,

Like I don't that and it served me well on on my spiritual path,

Because,

I mean,

That's kind of what it is.

You know,

You're I think it's your your progress is directly related to your effort and your commitment levels.

And if I do something,

I'm all in.

So,

Yeah,

It's served me well with the spiritual path.

Well,

And you also have Capricorn ruling your ascendant in Capricorn is very Capricorn likes to be productive,

Get things done,

You know,

Check things off the list,

Move things forward.

So that's a really helpful aspect to have in terms of like operating on the earth plane and,

You know,

Being committed to things.

But what's also interesting is that even though Capricorn is like ruling your first house,

You also have your moon in the first house,

Which makes you very intuitive.

So it's it's a nice combination in your first house of like structure and follow through,

But also intuition,

You know.

So it's a nice combo.

Nice.

I like it.

Yeah.

Must be this astrology stuff.

Right.

And then if you want to talk about an interesting aspect you have right now,

You have Saturn transiting your moon.

So with Saturn,

When Saturn comes up to transit the moon,

The moon in this case would represent the home.

So it's like,

You know,

Really,

You're you're being asked to stabilize and bring structure to your home,

Which is interesting in the sense that as far as I know,

You're you're kind of going through like a building.

Process,

You know,

Or you will be soon.

And Saturn is a two and a half year transit.

So for two and a half years,

Saturn is really supporting you in like really structuring and laying the foundation of your home.

You can't make this stuff up.

No,

You know,

Like,

I mean,

I've been I'm 53 and I have been mobile most of my life.

And it's,

You know,

So but I'm at a stage where I would like to set some roots.

And since I found my place over here,

I would like to set some roots here.

So this is exactly what I'm leaning into,

Looking for land,

Looking to build a home.

You know,

It's it's like it's exactly an alignment.

And the other thing,

Like when you were talking earlier about like the healing aspect,

Like when I a lot of times when I'm doing when I'm working,

It's just talk.

But I can feel it and my clients can feel it,

Too.

A lot of times that it's actually energetic.

So there's energy.

So as I'm talking,

The whatever we're focused on,

I can feel the energy is breaking up inside of them and loosening up and releasing as we're discussing it.

I can see that in your chart because you also have food and urine.

So it's like it's a it's a type of shaman that could kind of like like kind of like a like a lightning like a lightning bolt.

It's kind of like,

OK,

Let's let's change that up.

You know,

It's like kind of a fast moving type of energy.

Yeah.

So,

Yeah,

That's really cool.

That's really cool.

Yeah.

I thought I had looked at your chart before,

But I guess I guess I hadn't.

So that's that's super cool.

Well,

Thank you.

It was interesting,

You know,

And to me,

It's it really this is exactly why I thought it'd be a good idea to do one,

Because like I said,

I've been around.

Am I into astrology?

No,

I don't know anything about it,

But I know enough to know that there's something to it.

And this is why I you know,

This is like I wasn't going to I guess it's not a risk.

I don't really care what happens because this is an authentic podcast.

But like,

I didn't have a second thought because I knew that you were going to say things that I was going to be able to align with,

Like and make sense of it.

Because there is something to it,

You know?

Yeah,

Absolutely.

And I do have a storm rolling in now.

I've been thinking about it again.

And I've got a storm and you've got a storm.

So,

Yeah.

And as you were talking about the lightning,

I could see it out of the corner of my eye.

Are you serious?

Yeah.

I saw like three flashes.

That's pretty cool because this full moon is just to me there's a lot of purification and lightning brings even more.

So bring it on.

It was another one.

Right when you said lightning.

Awesome.

So I just saw a comment.

How come I can see this sometimes,

But not all the time?

I don't know.

This was fun and informative.

Thanks,

Guys.

Well,

Like if you can see it on the screen,

It's because Ben clicked on it.

Oh,

Awesome.

This was super fun.

I had so much fun.

Thank you for inviting me.

Yes,

My pleasure.

So,

Well,

You know,

I mean,

Is I do what I'm guided to.

So right now I'm guided to have guests.

So this is what I'm doing.

We'll see how long it lasts.

I hear you.

I hear you.

Well,

I appreciate it.

It was really fun building with you around this topic.

Yeah,

I appreciate it.

Thank you for coming on and being the specialist that can inform everybody and give them a little taste of you as well as what's out there.

So and we're going to put your website on the you know,

In the description.

So thank you both.

Peace,

Love and light to you all.

XO Deanna.

More lightning.

Yeah.

Well,

Thank you.

Yeah.

And well,

And so if you want to get in touch with Phoebe,

Her website will be on there in the description.

And that's going to do it.

So thank you.

And I think the the audio kind of started cutting out.

So perfect timing to end.

So,

Yeah,

We'll have our information there.

Thank you guys for listening and watching.

And we will talk with you soon.

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