The concept of curiosity,
That definitely resonates because once I got out of the cult situation and then out of the subsequent,
I was,
I jumped into a relationship from that,
Having zero clue how to relationship.
And that lasted for two years.
And then when I got out of that,
It was,
I fully leaned in to curiosity.
I'm like,
Wow,
I feel like I've a lot of lost time,
To make up,
To explore,
To do things I wasn't allowed or sheltered from or unable to explore,
At a younger age,
Very different upbringing than a lot of people.
And I dove in,
I fully embraced that curiosity while working through layers of stories that I've been told,
Some programming,
Some might say,
Of shame and guilt still surfaces in some facets to this day,
Because healing is an ongoing journey.
But also another thing is I've been listening to both of you that comes up for being key to intimacy is trust.
Right?
So if we're talking about any kind of intimacy,
Spiritual,
Emotional,
Mental with another human being,
It's trust.
Can I trust you to be this vulnerable,
Like my raw,
Authentic self with another person?
Of course,
That starts with you,
Right?
How you can only expect another person to meet you as deeply as you've met yourself.
And that's what we're talking about here.
I love I love that concept.
I love that quote.
Because yes,
You have to sit with yourself and find that intimacy.
Who am I?
How do I desire to experience life and intimacy?
And then to share that with another person is deeply intimate,
Like that mental,
Emotional,
Spiritual vulnerability.
And that is really intimacy building.
And another thing that occurred to me with that,
Like this morning,
Is grief.
There's a lot of intimacy,
Opportunities for intimacy in the experience of grief,
Right?
Because as you're sitting with grief,
You are shedding layers of who you used to be and that connection,
Whatever that is,
If you're whether I'm whether a soul has transitioned that you loved,
Or just the grief of losing a friendship or a relationship that was impactful in any way,
Right?
Those are all normal things that happen and that we get to experience.
And then so you're sitting with yourself in a whole different aspect when it comes to grief.
And then again,
The process of sharing,
Of being open and raw in your grief with another person is incredibly intimate.