The Woo Is True Podcast Episode 3

Hello,

And welcome to the Woo is True podcast.

I am your host,

Dr.

Nicole Garritano.

I like to refer to myself as a recovering academic and healthcare provider,

And I now help other people develop their intuition and really come to terms with this idea of science and spirituality.

I am a lover of both evidence and divine coincidence.

So let's see if you're in the right place.

Are you someone who's ever wondered how spirituality and science fit together?

Maybe you've questioned what you learned through traditional religion,

Or you've had experiences that you know have a deeper meaning and you just aren't sure how to figure those out.

If so,

The Woo is True is for you.

In this podcast,

I want to make the practical mystical and the mystical practical because I know there's a way to balance the two and learn from both.

It doesn't have to be either or,

It can be both and.

Both practical and spiritual,

Both science and energy,

Both concrete and ethereal.

So let's swap or for and and dive into the Woo.

Hello everyone and welcome to this episode where I will be speaking with Ishele Alcantara.

She is one of my clients and she's going to share her unique perspective on intuition and how she has integrated this both into motherhood and her business.

Ishele is just a fabulous,

Gentle soul and her passion is really helping female business owners harness the power of their money in their business.

So if you'd like more information about Ishele,

Be sure to check out the show notes.

Otherwise,

Get ready to dive into our conversation.

We will be talking all things intuition.

And so I do know this is a topic that's near and dear to your heart.

So I would just like to ask you first,

Like,

What does intuition really mean to you?

Well,

First of all,

Thank you,

Nicole,

For having me in the podcast.

And to answer your question,

Well,

To me,

Intuition is really kind of like that inner voice that just inner knowing that gut feeling inside of you that really guides you for your highest good,

Like to do the best,

Not the best per se,

But just the best outcome for everybody involved.

And so sometimes it's a soft little voice sometimes and you just kind of have to hone in and it's always there.

You just have to quiet yourself long enough in order to hear it.

I love that.

I love that definition.

And you're right.

Sometimes it can be the voice can be so soft.

And our hope is that as we fine tune our intuition,

That voice gets louder.

And it's a voice that we know we can rely upon 100%.

So that's just so beautiful the way you put that.

The other thing I kind of want to ask you just right off the top as we jump in is how long have you personally been tuned into or developing your intuition?

I think I would say I first noticed that I got little pains here and there.

When I was about seven-ish,

You know,

Sometimes you like my parents had rented this apartment and they never took us to go to go see it.

You know,

I just knew we were going to move into this new apartment.

I remember walking up the stairs and it wasn't even things.

Sometimes the level of energy just it gets a little bit denser sometimes as you're going upstairs.

It just I just felt that something was not necessarily right there.

So that's I think when it first started getting pains here and there of just things not necessarily like not being right,

But just something else was there with me at the time.

And it just kind of progressed.

I remember it just abdent load because I wasn't necessarily working on it was just there and I was acknowledging it.

And of course,

Like I've said there have been instances where the little voice has been there and I would get instances where I wouldn't hear you really got to go do this right now.

Like it's important for you to do just one thing right now because it's critical.

And of course when I wouldn't do it and I would think oh,

I should have just looking to myself and it's funny because sometimes they would come from like outside that I knew it wasn't my voice per se and sometimes it was just the feeling like I really need to move out of the way before something like that.

Yeah.

Oh,

That's so good.

And so I'm really curious because when you said there were times that you could have listened and you didn't and then there was like that sense of regret later.

Can you remember a specific time that you did listen and what was on the other side of that when you listen?

Well,

There were instances where like I just because I'm going I'm going to fast forward till I was older and because this one's like really vivid.

I was at my husband's company picnic or it wasn't even a company picnic.

It was just a bunch of his co-workers getting together and there was this particular co-worker that I just I felt like and this is not the first time I thought because I know that I think about it as something told me it's just the last time you're going to see this person or you're going to talk to this person.

Are you going to have some sort of an like interaction with this person?

I didn't quite understand and you know,

I said bye and I said bye in a way that was like it didn't it like I had closer to a certain extent right now one of those by the way.

Okay.

See you later.

We're really in the moment.

And I saw it's like time to be in the moment and within two weeks he passed away of a heart attack and that was the last time I saw him.

So I mean that's to an extreme but there's been instances where I was at work and I knew I had a slew of things I needed to get done and so you're trying to prioritize right and so you're sitting there wondering what do I need to get done and there were instances where I'm like could heal or here you need to get this done because this is what's going to be asked of you next and sure enough when I got it done it not only did it feel good to get it off the plate within minutes or hours my boss was asking me about whatever it was that she needed and their look.

Well and you bring up like something so interesting because even when you're saying the first example seems extreme actually in the moment when you were around that person it probably felt like you were more in the mundane like just the day-to-day I'm at this event I have to go do this and yet you get that intuitive hit and then you do see that that comes to fruition after the event and so I love that because I do feel that it's sometimes in the mundane where our intuition speaks to us the most clearly if that makes sense and just being in tune on any level you start to find that the mundane really isn't as mundane as we once thought it was that there's always something very interactive going on within our mind body and spirit and that voice that intuition that's speaking to us so I really love that you use that as an example because I have found that you know just in my own journey that what I think is just the day-to-day mundane so many great things are coming through like there's so much more clarity and the information flows so much more smoothly by heightening that awareness on a daily basis so yeah do you have anything else to say just about the mundane?

Yes,

I agree with you what you're saying about the mundane but I want to ask you can you tell me what that was?

But I wanted to add was if sometimes we think that our intuition gives us like you need to do this but we don't necessarily always get the feedback right away like in in both instances one was within our back now okay buddy I can't get the power to work on right now okay?

You need to keep that on.

I'm in a meeting right now.

Shh,

Go down there.

You never know when you're gonna get that feedback.

It could be a week,

Two weeks,

An hour,

A minute and it doesn't matter if you just like you build up that muscle to learn to trust your instinct or your intuition and you don't need instant like like in the in the world that we live in instant like gratification where you know right away what it is and sometimes you just need to trust.

Yes,

Yes I love that and also like this also makes me want to ask you because our listeners I know so Ishell has her son with her and many people in my world like we have our kids right by our sides as we're doing our work as we're doing everything so I'd love for you to even share you know was it your intuition was that was there an instinctual feeling that made you know you wanted to be able to work and still have your child right there with you.

Well yeah this all goes back to I think when after I you know I had him I had a choice right there and then do I want to go back to work or do I want to stay at home and this is when he was just a couple of months old and I chose to stay at home I took a break and then I knew I had to go back and I had to do it on my own terms because I needed that flexibility and I know in a way it seems like you're making it harder on yourself but I feel like I'm also giving him the example of you can do both things and especially being a female I'm opening up his eyes to it's not just an opportunity that should be held by just males it should be open to both right and if he still chooses to pursue a career like in corporate that's fine and if he still chooses to do a business that's okay he has it in his power to make that choice and that freedom and the same thing with schooling like right now we had COVID so he got so used to him being schooled by me and he tells me all the time mommy I don't want to necessarily be schooled at school so I'm considering not considering I am going to be doing homeschooling and let's see how that goes right.

I'm trying to tap into my intuition to do what's best for both parties and my family as a whole and just having that extra tool in my toolbox definitely makes that balance much more manageable like I don't feel guilty with him being here because I know it's and you know.

Yes yeah and I feel like like even as we're doing this since I'm always leaning into my intuition as I'm speaking to people I feel like there's going to be listeners out there that need to hear like that motherly intuition is so important to honor and to be tuned into so many times our society has taught us to like be out in the workplace right to achieve these certain success marks we're almost checking things off a list and that motherly intuition the idea of being able to be both right it's both and not either or and so it's beautiful the role modeling that you're doing for him and even what I was feeling as you were saying that is what you're showing him is possible for women right his view of what women can accomplish will look so much different than it may have had you chosen more traditional routes so that just felt really important to highlight I feel like we're going to have some listeners that are like that really speaks to me right now because especially for women we are in that tension when we have children you may not have children you may have pets and you just want to be able to work at home you know to be with your pets because they're like your children too and so like following those nudges when we're getting them is so important and that's a beautiful example you know of how you did that but you just said it's like an evolving continuing process of you tapping into your intuition and like fine tuning what's best for your family so that's really really beautiful thank you for sharing that thank you I think also to add to that it was really critical for me both my parents and my husband's parents on both sides they're aging and so I'm gonna end up in a situation and I'm pretty sure that a lot of people my agent other ages feel this way where they're sometimes stuck between a hard and a rough place where they're trying to balance career motherhood and being a caretaker right and so I just I felt that it was in our like best interest as a family unit for me to be here in case there was an emergency because of course my in my in-laws aren't they're helping that that's great but then you never know when some things gonna happen right so just having that flexibility was really I felt that was the best thing for us yes and even as you're saying that it's making me like the whole word superpower right is coming up because our intuition in so many ways really is our superpower and our personal life and our professional life the way we blend those together you know and every other tiny facet of our lives because we're so complex and there's so much going on in the world right now so for you like what do you feel like is your intuitive superpower or the way that you're gifting comes through I comes in multiple ways sometimes it comes in dreams that are like really like I think my dreams come in when I'm not 100% or I'm too dysregulated but I'm all over the place it's just so much going on in my life and I can't seem to quiet myself down during the day to listen so sometimes my dreams are very vivid and very almost metaphorically but almost to the T and then there's what I was saying earlier like sometimes I'll hear a voice outside of me telling me you shall you need to do this right this minute and probably my not so developed one is well I can't even say that I just don't think I've used it as much or I had to is sometimes I'll go into a spot like a place and it'll just if it feels like the energy is not necessarily like right like something's off and I think I had alluded to that earlier so I think those are the three things so after taking your course and just really tapping back into the journaling and connecting with nature I the voice got louder again because I had it's like you have moments in life where not that you forget about it but you're just not doing the work to make sure that the you know the connection is not that's connected that you're listening it's not that you're being you know that you're listening and so I think it got to the point where I started like smelling and tasting to a certain extent so those were starting to develop as well but I think the one that has been tremendously consistent has been the voice and the dreams for me I love it and I know like even when we first started working together dreams were definitely a way you'd been connecting for a long time you know it sounded like from some of the things you shared early on with me so it's amazing to hear like the progression I feel like so many times people think well like you either have intuition or you don't and we all have intuition and at the same time it is like a skill a superpower that we're constantly developing and there's so many different directions that it can go as we fine-tune the gifts that are coming really naturally to us so I love the way you piece that together as you were explaining it and yeah you know especially with you being like a graduate of the balance being intuitive formula program I would love for you maybe just to share like what were some of the highlights of going through the program that you really enjoyed I'm honestly from someone that like has been because you're gonna have different people coming into the person that are interested in right so someone that has always had that feeling like some like my intuition is already somewhat developed the right previously worked on developing it or I feel really connected and you don't feel as I don't want to use the word shame but right now for lack of a better word I'm going to use it of even acknowledging that you have that skill even though we all do we just kind of hide it because I know I did it for a while there I think that just I had I had a moment where I felt like I wasn't discerning what was being told so just finding my own confidence and just knowing that I'm not always going to get it right right and it's just a matter of trusting and listening and writing things down as they come or even doing a like a voice message for myself and validating having those validations to show me that I'm it's not that I'm not discerning it's just that maybe I wasn't listening or or finding little things that because intuition has a funny way of talking to you sometimes it's very symbolic and so you really being confident and understanding it's almost like you're actually as I was taking the course I felt much more confident and the symbolic way that I spoke and interacted with my own intuition so that became a much more stronger much more defined and the disheavened part that fear was no longer there so there's definitely a huge boost in confidence when it comes to that and just you know connecting and having that community and having us like guidance support knowing that I'm not just being thrown out there into the masses and wondering where I'm going having that community just it just felt really good and it's really critical and important I think that as you're beginning to reconnect with that part of you that you do it in a way that it's not traumatic it's safe and that you're dealing with stuff that you need to deal with that's about because there's certain things that you still have that you know you need to declutter to keep that communication or those channels open as that that's speaking from perspective of someone that has worked on my intuition throughout you know my life and I would say and this is just from a viewpoint from that perspective to maybe the perspective of someone that lived in this doubt of I know I have this but I don't know how to incorporate it into my life or if it's even something that like okay or you know because sometimes it's taboo I think in taking your class you have this like beautiful presence about you where you make space for people to get to where they need to be when they need to get there at their own time and that is just so critical when we're working on our intuition because our intuition is also part of who we are we're all connected right and so we'll reconnect when we're ready and so you do such a beautiful job at holding us and holding our space to do that in a very non-scary non-fear-based way where we gradually reconnect with who we are we feel more confident and we can trust what our intuition is telling us because it's there for our highest good and for the highest good of the world.

I love that and thank you for those beautiful reflections back I accept them I feel them and I love that you brought some of those elements up because like for me as a guide it is such an intentional process of setting up these smaller more intimate containers where people can like you just you put it beautifully rediscover themselves in a really safe environment and I don't believe in like the pushing it's a nurturing environment because people are there to go at their own pace and different content will land when it's meant to land and that's why people get lifetime access to it because I know from my own journey and you've described elements of this too with your long-term journey the information comes when we're ready to receive it we learn the process when we're ready to learn it and so even in six weeks you know we we hope to take some steps and I also know being realistic that some people are not going to be ready for all of that content all in one fell swoop and so knowing that there's that flexibility to come back in and receive the content at a time that feels in alignment for anyone joining the container was really really important to me and so you know with every new round for those listening you're invited back in every time I offer it again for that same support at no charge because I feel like this is a lifelong process like we've said developing our intuition isn't a one and done it goes on it continues and so I want to make sure anything I create is accessible to anyone that feels called to be a part of it for the long haul you know I'm really here to support people for the long haul so I appreciate like you noticing those elements of what I've so intentionally tried to create and have created within my communities so I am choosing to do things a little bit different and not so much inside the conventional mainstream and it's working beautifully for me and for those who are called to you know be on this path be on this journey with me so with that being said I would love to know like if you had to sum up your experience in three to five words of being inside the intuitive formula experience how would you sum that up I would say like I think intuitive nurturing connection and what I mean by that is in so many facets I intuitively connected to you and trusted you because I knew you were going to nurture me like you were going to set up that nurturing space without it coming from a space of me me me me me from just my growth right you make sure that you are open and you hold space for every person no matter where they are in their growth right in their journey and I definitely felt empowered by not just your presence as a guide as a teacher but also the community there like as we were participating in a weekly basis just seeing everybody's journey from a different perspective and at the end of that six weeks having the opportunity to connect with each other in a way where we not tested but we used like the skills that we were developing to connect with each other in a way that we maybe hadn't and that that I've always loved doing that so and also intuitive in my own sense not just as the community but from a personal level it just just me connecting with you was there that was like not even discernment but it was like okay this is good right I'm not that off base so yes and I think I think just you know honestly Nicole not just because I'm your student but I'm being honest here you're being led to do things differently because you're meant to be a leader in this space and I cannot wait for you to see just the huge impact that you're going to make in this world not just through the work that you're doing here but by holding space for other people to go ahead and allow it and grow in their journey in this way and the impact that they're going to make them and their community at all.

Oh thank you bringing tears to my eyes thank you so much thank you so much that just oh it touches my heart and makes me feel just like so joyful inside because it is something I feel so called to do and so passionate about so thank you for reflecting that back to me and oh before we wrap up I would love to ask you just so all of our listeners can hear what are your next intuitive steps or where do you see your intuition taking you next how are you incorporating it?

Well I mean I mentioned that I'm a business owner so definitely growing that in a sense where I see how in the online space we're all about the next 10k the next 20k and we're building up all these money goals but there is no it feels like a hamster wheel you're going to the next goal but there's no intent there's no intent behind it and I know there's a lot of entrepreneurs like we all came I shouldn't say we all a lot of the people in the online space that I'm around are moms and they have a deeper passion than just being moms and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that because we mentioned that it's not just this or that it's both right and I feel like just having helping them and supporting them in a way where they create something that's like strategy and financial goals that are not rigid and they're more flexible but they have more impactful goals than profitable goals at the end of the day is necessarily where I'm being led to but there's something else that's coming up and it's and it's in the realm of intuition too I don't think I'm meant to do just this like really logical structured way of doing things I will if you still may my intuition and then okay bye finally good stuff but there's also so I'm Reiki certified and I throughout our program I had actually come to work with me and last week one of my old co-workers called me and asked me out of the blue if I was doing Reiki and I think it's time I think it's time that I start doing that as well and just helping that way as well yeah I love it as far as fairness of hoodings concerned like just you know playing it earbud one day at a time with the whole home schooling thing I'm not 100 sure if she said I got a super song I'm not 100 sure I will be homeschooling when he's like in fifth or sixth or seventh grade but just getting in those foundations right now I think it's it's working to be and I need to be as a whole and then every year we'll you know see how it goes yeah I love it well you have the whole plan like you're gonna keep checking back in with your intuition and taking those aligned action steps like really even in your voice it's from this place of radical self-trust which is so important and foundational to doing the intuitive work so I'm so excited to see where you go next I feel so blessed and lucky that we have this connection it is like a soul connection we were definitely meant to meet and so grateful to have you in my community and just the fact that you came on today and shared your experience it's not it's not just going to help you know one or two people it does have that ripple effect and I know there's listeners that needed to hear this message today and your unique perspective on intuition so thank you for being with me thank you for sharing any last parting words or advice you know just sometimes as moms we are you hear the word self-care and we think that is superficial by superficial I mean you're doing outside things to work on inside and we forget that it's really self-care for our our own so our own intuition that is important and doing this work like connecting with ourselves taking time to journal taking time to even just step outside like I love the fact that you said if you can't step outside into nature because little Jude is like my son you know having a day you can always look out the window and just experience the wind just open the window and experience like breathe in the air like really feel yourself in the moment that is like the cheapest and that is not expensive but also the easiest and quickest way of getting so self-care within a couple minutes and you're not just filling your cup you're also connecting with your own intuition as to what it's telling you that you need at that moment not only to keep yourself staying and you know and overall just everything that we as mom as women as women because not just as women we're responsible for because let's be honest there's women here who may be listening to your program that may not have children or they have pets or they don't have pets they also have parents and they're also sometimes caretakers and they worry we're raised to be nurturers by nature or not by nature by society and by nature we kind of are nurturers and so I think that that it's so critical for us to give ourselves back in order to find that confidence and that strength and I'll be all over the place wondering what's my next best of this because the answer is always inside of you.

Those are the perfect wise words to end on the answers are always inside of you once you can lean into that and trust that even the obstacles just start to feel like a bump in the road so thank you so much for being here I have loved this conversation and we'll definitely have to do it again sometime.

Thank you so much for having me I just love talking to you and just yeah thank you.

Thanks for filling your ears with possibility today you can find all the resources shared in today's episode in the show notes or description depending on which platform you are tuning in from until next time remember your understanding starts inside of you so stay true to your will.