The Stages Of Awakening - Insight Time Live (Recording)

Hello,

Namaste and a very warm welcome to this session.

My name is Sakar and I am welcoming you with a lot of love,

A lot of blessings,

A lot of loving energies.

Good morning,

Good afternoon,

Good evening,

Whatever time it is for you.

My name is Sakar and today's session is called the stages of enlightenment.

Now what do I mean by the stages of enlightenment?

Why are we even discussing this topic?

Now what I realized was that,

You know,

In my studies of various enlightenment experiences of spiritual mystics,

In my own journey of,

You know,

What I won't call it enlightenment,

But what I will call it is maybe awakening,

Maybe connecting to deeper levels of awareness,

Something similar to what you experienced in the meditation today,

You know,

Connecting to that state of awareness,

Which is beyond physicality,

Which is beyond the normal perception of our world.

So in this journey,

What I found was that there are certain stages involved and these stages,

Many people go through these stages,

You know,

A lot of these mystics go through these common stages.

I realized that there is,

There are stages involved in this journey of enlightenment.

It's not like a,

It's not usually a one time thing,

You know,

For example,

Buddha also meditated for about six years and then he experienced enlightenment.

He had to go through certain stages.

Many people who talk about connecting to that oneness,

Connecting to those deeper states of awareness,

They talk about,

They go through a journey.

They go through these stages.

I myself,

You know,

Experienced a few of these stages in my journey.

So this is what I want to share with you from,

From my,

You know,

From my learnings of these experiences of mystics,

From my own experiences,

From those deeper states of meditation,

Deeper states of awareness.

I wanted to share this journey with you and you know,

Maybe it can be of any benefit to you in your journey.

I'm sure you have your own journey of enlightenment.

You have your own journey of awakening.

So feel free to share anything,

You know,

That it is not,

It's nothing fixed.

These stages are just to help us to maybe have a understanding and to maybe organize our,

What we are discussing,

But there is no fixed journey as such.

So feel free to share anything,

You know,

That comes up for you.

Maybe you had a different journey,

Maybe you had a different stage and that's okay.

We all are,

We all experience enlightenment through our own unique ways.

You know,

There is no fixed journey as such.

And Osho gave this analogy that enlightenment is like reaching that top of the mountain and to reach that top of the mountain,

There are various ways,

You know,

There is only,

There is not only one particular path,

There is not only one particular trek.

There are so many paths to reach that top of the mountain.

It's not fixed.

So maybe your path was different.

Maybe you are at some stage and it has been different for you.

So feel free to share anything.

Let's make this a mutual exploration of the journey of enlightenment and let's see if we can learn something from each other today.

I can see that many of you have already started sharing your experiences.

That's wonderful.

Okay.

So,

For those of you who know,

I will be talking about the seven stages of enlightenment and there are seven stages,

You know,

That,

That I feel that are important to this journey of enlightenment.

For those of you who like to take down pointers,

Who like to take down notes,

What I would suggest is maybe you can just note down these seven stages.

And you know,

What I would say is the session is more about contemplating experiencing.

So it's a good idea to experience this with me rather than spending more time on writing.

So what you can do is maybe note down the main pointers.

Okay.

So seven stages of enlightenment.

The first stage is called ego shattering.

Ego shattering.

That's the first stage.

Now,

For those of you who,

Who know about the chakra system of the body,

Who understand the chakras,

What you can do is you can also relate this journey to the journey of the seven chakras because enlightenment is about moving from the lowermost chakra to the uppermost chakra.

So we are talking about the root chakra right now,

We are talking about the first stage of enlightenment that is ego shattering.

For those of you who don't know about the chakras or who don't believe in the chakras,

It's absolutely okay.

The session is,

You know,

About you can just focus on these stages.

You might not have to look at the chakras.

Okay,

So the first stage is ego shattering.

The second stage is called awakening,

Awakening.

The second stage is awakening.

The third stage is called super consciousness,

Super consciousness.

The fourth stage is called inter dimensionality,

Dimensionality,

Inter dimensionality.

I will write this down.

It is even difficult to pronounce for me.

Inter dimensionality.

This is the fourth stage and the fifth stage is called energy beam,

Energy beam,

Energy beam.

The sixth stage is called collective creation,

Collective creation.

The seventh and the final stage is God consciousness,

God consciousness.

These are the seven stages of enlightenment that we will be discussing today.

I will quickly repeat that for any of you who have missed any of the points.

The first one is called the ego shattering.

The second one is awakening.

The third is super consciousness.

The fourth is inter dimensionality.

The fifth is energy beam.

The sixth is called collective creation and the seventh is God consciousness.

Thank you so much.

I thank you to all of you for writing that down.

Thank you for writing down the chakras.

For those of you who are looking at the chakra system,

You can also look at the stages,

How they are associated with the chakras.

Okay.

So let's begin with the first stage.

The first stage is called ego shattering.

Now I believe many of us experience,

You know,

Have experienced this already.

Many of you might have experienced this already in which,

You know,

First we are,

We come to this life and we live from a place of ego.

We live from a place of separation.

That's because we are conditioned that way,

You know,

In our childhood,

We are conditioned that way to believe that I am this separate being and you know,

I have no connection to others and I have to live for my survival.

It is a,

You know,

Initially we come from a survival based mindset.

Initially we live our life from a survival based mindset and that's when we are very much focused on money.

That's when we are very much focused on just providing those physical comforts to ourselves.

That's when we are very much focused on relationships and everything that is physical,

That is material in this world,

We are very much focused on that.

We are,

We have a survival based,

You know,

Tendency and that is normal for us.

That is,

I think true for most of us,

We go through this experience,

But then what happens is ego shattering happens.

You know,

We come to a point of time in our life when there is a shattering of the ego,

Where we experience pain,

Where we experience that maybe there is something beyond this ego based survival.

Maybe there is something beyond the life that I'm living,

You know,

The,

Maybe I was running after money for my entire life,

Or I was focused on a particular relationship for my entire life,

Or maybe I was focused on building a house or I was focused on accumulating material things in my life.

Maybe that was my focus.

But then we realize that that is not giving me happiness,

That is not,

You know,

Giving me that satisfaction,

That is not giving me,

We,

For our many,

Many of us for our major part of lives,

We run after these things,

But we realize that the happiness is not there.

We realize that,

You know,

Something is wrong with this methodology and this survival based mindset.

Just think about this because even if when we try to,

You know,

Accumulate more wealth,

We try to accumulate more comforts,

We try to get more attached to our relationships,

That is still a survival based mindset.

You know,

We think that we are doing great,

We think that we are,

You know,

Improving our life by having more and more wealth and by having more relationships or accumulating more material items,

We think that we are improving in life.

But ultimately we come to a point where we realize when we kind of get saturated and we feel that,

You know,

This is not working anymore for me,

I have done everything I have,

You know,

I have the best job,

I have the best business,

I have the best partner,

I have all the physical comforts that I need.

But still that is not giving me that satisfaction,

That is not giving me that happiness.

And that is when the stage of ego shattering happens.

Maybe we come to a point of saturation in our life where something breaks down for us.

Maybe you know,

There is a traumatic event that we experience,

Maybe there is a break up,

Maybe there is a divorce,

Maybe there is,

You know,

Finances being affected to a great extent,

Maybe,

You know,

We go through certain bankruptcy or situation where we lose our money,

Or maybe there is an accident or maybe there is a health issue that we have.

So we go through that shattering,

We go through that process where we realize that this is not enough.

You know,

This kind of living is not enough.

And that is when ego shattering happens.

So my question to you is,

Has the ego shattering happened for you?

I'm sure it is true for many of you.

And that's why you are here in the session today.

That's why you are here on Inside Timer because you might have experienced that ego shattering.

Someone said COVID kick started it.

Yes,

For many of us,

COVID was that point where our ego started shattering.

We realized that,

You know,

The way we have been living our lives,

There is some,

It is something which we have to really question.

Every day someone said,

I experience the ego shattering every day.

Thank you so much.

Lots of love to you,

Prasad.

Someone experienced abuse.

Someone experienced some serious physical problems.

There are many reasons of this ego shattering,

You know,

Health,

Finances,

Relationships,

There are many,

Many reasons to that.

Someone's saying that I'm just starting with the ego shattering right now.

So many of you are at maybe that first stage of enlightenment where something is getting shattered.

You know,

This ego that we form,

This hard shell that we form,

It is starting to break.

We are starting to go inside and question the way we have been living our lives.

Many of you would have moved past beyond that stage and you are on the next stages of enlightenment.

Someone said,

I have lost many people recently,

Which made me question everything.

Yes,

Yes,

Absolutely.

We experience ego shattering in our own ways.

Okay.

So then we move on to the next stage and the next stage is awakening.

Now,

Many of you might be at this stage of awakening where we move beyond the ego and we start to awaken.

We start to realize that there are things which are beyond just the physical world.

There are things which are beyond just the ego.

At this stage,

We start connecting with our emotions.

At this stage,

We start working on our emotions.

At this stage,

We start healing ourselves.

We are talking about the sacred chakra right now and the sacred chakra is,

You know,

Is our connection to our emotions.

At this stage,

You have started the healing journey,

The stage of awakening,

Where you are healing yourself,

Where you are doing everything,

You know,

That you can do to heal yourself.

Maybe you are going through therapy.

Maybe you have started meditating.

Maybe you have started spending time with yourself in solitude because you realize that,

You know,

My relationships have been affecting me,

But now it is time for me to draw boundaries in my relationships and start working on myself.

Maybe you have,

You are spending time with yourself in solitude now.

Maybe you have started connecting with nature and you feel more connected to nature and you realize that there is,

You know,

There is much more to this existence,

That nature is beautiful.

Like in,

I feel good when I connect to nature.

So we,

Again,

We have our own ways of awakening.

We,

You know,

You might be working on your mindset.

You might be working on your mental health,

Emotional health,

But now you have moved beyond that physicality.

Now you are connecting to something deeper within you,

Something,

You know,

What we connected to in the meditation in this today,

Today,

When we started the session,

That state of awareness,

That state of consciousness,

Where you are aware,

Where you are aware of your own emotions,

Where you are aware of your own mindset,

You know that,

You know,

You have to work on something.

You know that there is much more to you than just being a physical body.

You know,

We,

We move our awareness.

How many of us,

We spend our lives so much focused on the physical body.

You know,

We are,

We are very much,

And it's important to take,

Don't get me wrong here.

It's important to take care of our physical bodies,

But we are very much,

You know,

For major part of our lives focused on that.

And what we do is we just,

You know,

Maybe try to look good,

Look beautiful and,

You know,

Take our body in a certain way,

Get all those comforts for our body.

But at this stage,

You have realized that more than the body,

There is a soul that I have to take care of.

My emotions have to be taken care of,

You know,

I am much more than this physical body.

People cannot reduce me to my physical body anymore.

People cannot,

You know,

Just look at my body and say that,

You know,

Judge me from my body.

I'm much more than that.

I'm a soul,

I'm in this consciousness,

Which is beyond the body and I need to take care of that.

So that's when we start awakening.

So the question is,

What is that awakening for you?

What,

What are you doing in this stage of your journey when you are awakening?

What is that for you?

The activity might be totally different for you.

It might be meditation,

Solitude,

As I said,

Nature,

You know,

Therapy,

It can be anything.

So what is that for you?

He said,

Soul care.

Christina said questioning everything,

Solitude and sensory deprivation.

Wonderful.

Sensory deprivation,

That's interesting.

I would like to know more about that.

So the question is,

What,

How are you awakening?

What is that activity for you that you do for your awakening,

Connecting to some deeper level of consciousness beyond the body?

Therapy,

Meditation,

Solitude.

Work with plants,

That is very interesting.

Connecting to nature,

Basically.

Music,

Yoga,

Art,

Breath work,

Wonderful.

What is that activity for you that you are doing in the moment?

Asking a lot of questions to my higher self.

Beautiful.

Thank you so much for sharing that.

And yes,

We have our own practice,

You know,

We have our own way of awakening.

So this is the second stage that we talked about.

We have just reached the second stage.

You know,

We still have five more stages and that is the beauty of enlightenment.

Enlightenment is deep.

It's such a long process.

You know,

It's not a,

As I said,

It's not a one time thing that suddenly you enlighten.

It is usually,

It's mostly a process.

So the third stage we move on to then is super consciousness.

Super consciousness.

So what is super consciousness?

What do you think?

So super consciousness is the third stage of enlightenment where you are in that absolute state of total observation,

Where you kind of can observe your body,

You become an observer itself,

Where you are mostly in that state.

You will find a lot of spiritual mystics who are constantly in that state of super consciousness where they are very aware of the body,

Where they know that they are not just the body,

But they are something beyond that.

And they are connected to that state.

Mostly we regularly start connecting to that state of consciousness,

That state of awareness,

That state of observing.

And if I have to give an analogy here,

It is like,

You know,

Considering for example,

This body as a space suit,

You know that as if you are wearing a space suit,

You are on this planet earth and you are,

You have got this earth suit to wear,

The space suit to wear,

You know,

Your thoughts,

Your emotions,

Your body,

Everything is a part of your space suit.

But you know,

And you are,

You know that you have realized that there is,

I am not the space suit,

I am the person inside the space suit.

Similarly,

You know,

You know that I am not this body,

I am not just this body,

But I am this consciousness,

This soul,

This awareness,

Which is inside this body.

And you constantly stay in that state of realizing that and knowing that.

Where you are not the space suit itself,

But you are an observer,

You are that person who is using that space suit.

You are in total observation at that time.

This is the stage where you transcend and you know,

You start suffering less,

Actually you start,

You start transcending suffering because when your body gets hurt in any,

Any manner,

You know that it is not me that is getting hurt.

It is the space suit which is getting hurt.

You know,

You know that your existence is,

Is not just this physical existence.

Your existence is much more than that.

You know,

You call it the soul,

You can call it the higher self,

You can call it the consciousness or consciousness,

Whatever terminology we use.

The idea is that you realize that you are much more than just the space suit or just this body and you constantly stay,

You know,

You mostly stay in that state of awareness of that consciousness.

So what is that for you?

How much do you stay in that conscious state of awareness or state of consciousness?

Maybe you can check that for yourself.

If you have regularly started staying in that state and if,

If you have transcended that stage of suffering,

You are transcending that stage of suffering where something happens in your physical environment or something happens to your body,

You don't find yourself suffering that much anymore.

Maybe you have reached that state of calmness,

That state of observation where you are not very much affected by what's happening in your environment or what's happening to your body.

So that becomes a stage of super consciousness where you are connected,

Where you are connected to something,

This something beyond the physical body and you find yourself constantly being in that state.

Someone said regularly but for very short periods,

Someone said I come in and out of that.

Andrea said being an observer always reminds me of it being fun.

It seems playful and enhances the experience of life.

Yes.

Maybe you get triggered at times.

Yes,

It's a process and not attainable always.

Yes,

It's a process but at this stage you start mostly staying there.

It's not that you will always stay there,

You will definitely come back,

You know,

You will also suffer.

Buddha,

Buddha also suffered.

So you will also suffer.

But mostly you have started staying in that state of observation and not being,

Not suffering and you know,

Kind of started transcending that something.

So that's very specific,

Wonderful.

I become super conscious at least twice a day for 10 minutes each.

You know the timing,

You know that time when you connect to that,

Wonderful.

Okay,

So this was the stage of super consciousness.

This was the third stage.

Now we are talking,

Now we will move on to the fourth stage.

This is the stage which is very very interesting and which is very very powerful and which is you know also very painful at the same time.

And this stage is of inter-dimensionality.

Now what is inter-dimensionality?

What do you think is inter-dimensionality?

What can you guess by this word inter-dimensionality?

Inter-dimensionality,

What comes to your mind?

Just see what comes to your mind.

What does this word mean to you?

Being everywhere at the same time,

Okay that's interesting.

Being very connected to not just earth,

Connecting to your spirit guides,

Yes.

Awareness of multiple dimensions going on at once,

Wonderful.

That's a very good answer,

Kalda.

A different level of being,

Not vilifying life on other planets,

Transcending the construct of time and space,

Yes.

Feeling other dimensions,

Up dimensions.

Yes,

So this stage is a very interesting stage,

Inter-dimensionality.

Now you are moving beyond just your own physical self.

Now you are moving beyond just your own individual consciousness.

Now you are moving,

Connecting to something greater here.

This is the stage as the word suggests where you start experiencing your reality in different ways.

Now this stage happens through deeper levels of awareness.

Maybe you have meditated for a long time,

Maybe you have spent some years in meditation and maybe you have done some practices,

Maybe you have done some,

Let's say shamanic practices,

A lot of shamanic practices help us connect to our inter-dimensionality.

Maybe you have a practice,

A regular practice of breath work,

Maybe you have a regular practice of plant medicine,

Whatever that is.

But another word opens up for you in this stage.

You start experiencing reality in a different way.

Maybe you start,

As someone said,

You start connecting to beings that might not be just physical beings present in this physical world.

You know,

A lot of mystics talk about connecting to some beings which are not just from this world,

Maybe which belong to other dimensions.

You know,

What we call ghosts or what we call,

You know,

Anomalies.

There's many of us,

We start connecting to certain beings which might not be just from this physical world.

Maybe it is,

You know,

An extra dimensional being.

Maybe a lot of mediums and chandles are in this stage of inter-dimensionality because when they are connecting to something beyond,

Maybe they are connecting to a departed soul and maybe they are connecting to an extra dimensional being,

They are channelling their message.

You know,

These channels and mediums are usually in this stage of inter-dimensionality where they experience this world which is,

They experience this world which is beyond just the physical world.

You start connecting to other dimensions,

Maybe you start remembering something,

Maybe you start remembering your past lives.

It might be possible that you start remembering your past lives.

A lot of us experience that.

I experience that in my deeper states of meditation where,

You know,

I could remember certain of my lives and I think this is a process that I am going through right now personally.

You start maybe remembering your past lives.

Time starts functioning in a different manner for you because time again is a dimension.

Time is something which,

You know,

If there are any extra dimensional beings,

If there are any advanced extra terra-terrestrial beings,

Time is something that they can control.

So time maybe starts functioning differently for you.

Maybe you sit in a meditation for,

You know,

You feel that you are sitting in a meditation for half an hour but three hours or four hours pass by and you don't even realize that.

So many of us start experiencing time differently.

Many of us start having very intense dreams.

Maybe,

You know,

Messages are revealed to you through dreams because dream is also a dimension.

There is a dream dimension itself.

Dream is a particular dimension that we are accessing.

Maybe you start experiencing things in your vicinity.

Maybe you start feeling certain beings.

Maybe you can feel energy being with you,

You know.

For example,

I gave this example of Ram Dass,

Baba Ram Dass who talked about being visited by this energy being who did not have a body.

He gave a name to this being and the name of this being was Emanuele and he did not have a body.

You know,

He did not have a physical body but he was just,

He became a friend of Baba Ram Dass.

He wanted to talk to them.

So this is when we connect to these different dimensions because we human beings are very much focused on this three-dimensional world but there is much more beyond that.

You know,

There are higher dimensional beings.

There is much more beyond that.

There are beings which maybe,

You know,

Who can see us but maybe we cannot see those beings because we are experiencing this 3D reality right now.

So just check if you also have that experiences.

Just check if you also are becoming inter-dimensional in that sense when you have started experiencing.

What is your experience of inter-dimensionality?

How do you experience maybe these,

You know,

Extra dimensions?

I think we all have our own different ways of doing that.

This is the stage of inter-dimensionality and it is accompanied,

You know,

When the stage begins.

It is not easy.

This is the stage where,

You know,

A lot of people say that my third eye has opened and initially it is painful in the sense that we start experiencing these beings and it at times is scary.

You know,

It is very scary to us because we were so much fixed on this physical reality that when we encounter a being from another dimension,

We are very much scared.

You know,

It is a scary experience.

We feel as if it is a ghost because that is how we have been conditioned.

But many times we realize that it is a very beautiful connection that we have.

Maybe we start,

You know,

Experiencing having certain visions which are not these worthy.

For a lot of us it is a painful process because we are opening our awareness to something which we have not seen or experienced before.

You know,

It is like you are opening your eyes for the first time.

So for a blind man who opens,

You know,

Who gets his vision back and who opens his eyes for the first time,

The blind man will be blinded with this light,

This intense light.

You know,

It will be very difficult and painful to open the eyes.

This is exactly how the experience of under dimensionality is.

Your awareness is expanding.

Your consciousness is expanding and you are opening up to these dimensions.

Then it is painful initially,

You know,

It is not easy to go through that because we are opening our eyes,

Our third eye for the first time.

So what is that experience for you?

Someone said,

I recognize this with time disappearing.

Wonderful.

So what is the experience of having dreams?

Someone asked,

Is having dreams that you know are memories from experience you didn't have in this life and plane of existence inter dimension?

Yes,

Absolutely Jay.

So dreams are a plane of dimension,

You know,

Again a plane of reality.

Sometimes we even remember our past lives and dreams.

Sometimes we access some parallel lives and dreams or maybe,

You know,

We see something of the future and dreams.

So it is actually another dimension.

Feeling different energies.

Dijavu.

Someone was able to have a conversation with a departed soul and that's wonderful.

Plant medicine.

Psychic awareness.

Synchronicity.

Synchronicity is more of the second stage of awakening.

Synchronicity is happening in the second stage.

Someone said,

I feel present at multiple locations at a moment.

That's a wonderful experience to have.

Do join us in the,

You know,

There are so many wonderful experiences.

Do join us in the spiritual awakening circle.

We have a community,

We have a family where we have all these discussions,

We have meditations together,

We do prayers together.

So feel free to join this spiritual awakening circle.

We would love to have you there.

And what you can do is you can go to the circles tab,

You can type in spiritual awakening and you will see a circle with the Buddha statue.

So you can join us.

It's so wonderful to have all these experiences and let's share these experiences.

Let's share this journey with each other.

Maybe we can help each other in this journey and maybe we can,

You know,

Guide each other in this journey.

So wonderful.

There are so many experiences of inter dimensionality that we experience.

Something else opens up for us.

You know,

We start,

Our entire life understanding is shattered,

You know,

In the sense that we realize that we were conditioned in a very different way.

We were conditioned to believe that this is life,

But there is so much beyond that.

You know,

As someone mentioned about shamanism,

That a lot of shamans,

They have a very different model of reality.

You know,

They speak to spirits,

They see visuals,

Which,

You know,

In our ordinary we can state,

We cannot see maybe,

But they experience that and that's a normal way of living for them.

You know,

They see things beyond just this three dimensional physical construct and that becomes their normal way of living.

So that is what inter dimensionality is about.

You start connecting,

You start experiencing much more than just this so-called physical reality that we have been conditioned to live in.

Someone said it's a lonely journey.

Yes,

Absolutely.

It feels like a lonely journey,

But many of us are in that journey.

So let's again,

You know,

Let's connect in the spiritual awakening circle and let's go through this together rather than feeling alone in this journey.

Let's share this journey with each other.

Okay.

So then we move on to,

This was the fourth stage and then we move on to the fifth stage of becoming an energy beam.

Now this is something which I think most of us do not experience in our lifetimes.

A state of becoming an energy beam,

It is kind of becoming that higher level,

You know,

That high level of consciousness,

Which is beyond humanity right now.

You know,

You become a totally energy beam,

You don't require a physical body anymore.

A lot of monks who talk about enlightenment,

They say that a lot of these beings who were monks in their life,

They have transcended to another level.

They are not there in the physical body anymore,

But they are existing as an energy beam.

A lot of us,

You know,

Most of us experience this energy beam state.

Mostly when we,

You know,

When we die,

When we move on to this in Buddhism,

It is called the Bardo state,

You know,

The state between lifetimes.

We experience this state of being an energy beam for some time and then we move on to another physical body.

But the stage of energy beam is actually a way of living.

You know,

There are many species,

It's believed that there are many species who do not require a physical body who live just as this energy body,

This energy beam.

You know,

For many of you who follow the,

You know,

Who understand about extra diasterems and their lives,

There are specific species who exists in the state of being an energy beam.

You know,

They are also called,

Known as Pleiadians.

So the higher strata,

The Pleiadian collective,

You know,

They exist as energy beams.

Again,

You know,

As I gave the example of Baba Ramdas and you know,

This entity visiting Baba Ramdas,

Immanuel,

That's an energy beam.

So these beams do not have a body,

But they are,

They exist as an energy beam.

They exist without this body.

That is when we kind of transcend physicality,

You know,

We do not,

And a lot of these species are believed to be not involving in the physical aspects anymore.

They do not need food for energy.

For example,

They do not eat food,

You know,

They do not need food for existing.

The energy is supplied from the universal energy source.

It is supplied from this source,

Which is coined by many names in different traditions,

Prana or Chi,

This energy state,

That is what supplies the energy.

There are even stories of many yogis who do not eat food,

You know,

Who do not require food for energy.

Many of these species are believed that they do not involve in mating anymore,

You know,

In having sex or mating anymore,

Because they have transcended that state,

You know,

They have transcended that state of physicality.

They just exist as,

You know,

Energy beams.

A lot of people who become celibate,

They start experiencing this energy state to a certain level,

You know,

So celibacy is something that makes us connect more and more to that energy state because what's happening is we are getting away from that physicality.

We are actually,

You know,

Transcending that physicality.

We are actually connecting to the higher chakras.

We do not need that physical,

You know,

That physical supply of food,

Of mating and all these physical aspects anymore.

We have started experiencing that energy state.

So again,

That is something which,

You know,

Which we human beings do not usually experience.

So it might be difficult to understand that right now,

But just for an understanding,

In this journey of enlightenment,

Being an energy beam without a body is also a state of existence.

There are in fact many extra-dimensional species or,

You know,

Who exist just as energy beams without a physical body.

Someone asked,

Can we become Pleiadians or are they totally different from us?

Yes,

So basically I believe that humanity is gradually rising to that level.

You know,

There might come a point of time where we exist as just beings of energy rather than,

You know,

Requiring a physical body.

Okay,

So this was the fifth level.

Now we move on to the sixth level and the sixth level of enlightenment,

It is called as the sixth stage of enlightenment,

It is called as collective creation.

Now this is the stage where we kind of mostly move beyond our individuality.

We move beyond,

Someone asked how does this relate to the throat chakra.

So the throat chakra is related to sound,

It is related to sound,

Sound is an energy.

So sound is a way to also achieve this.

I am glad you asked this question,

Charmin.

Sound vibration is also a way through which we exist in that state of energy.

A lot of people talk about,

You know,

Experiencing sound,

A lot of these energy beings,

They just,

When they appear,

There is a sound that appears with them.

They are kind of that music,

You know,

They,

Because sound is energy,

Sound is vibration.

A lot of people use sound to transcend to that state of being energy.

A lot of people who are into music,

They start feeling after a certain time,

They don't have a physical body.

They move to that state of energy,

You know,

A lot of people who are into sound healing,

They start experiencing that state of energy.

So this is related to sound.

That's why it is related to the throat chakra.

Okay.

Then we move to the sixth stage,

Which is collective creation.

So this is the stage where we transcend our individuality.

We become a collective species.

So for example,

The Pleiadians that I was talking about,

It is a collective species,

You know,

Where we collectively create and we think we actually are more concerned about,

You know,

The universal collective rather than just our individual consciousness.

Now a lot of,

Again,

In that state of one,

In that state when we,

You know,

We are transitioning between lives,

A lot of us experience that collective consciousness with our soul drive in that state,

You know,

There is a concept of soul drives.

There is a concept that,

You know,

We move in tribes,

You know,

We are connected at a deeper level as one,

You know,

We move beyond that individual consciousness and we collectively decide to do something in this life or create something in this life.

Maybe you at a soul level decided with your friend or your partner or your mother or anybody or your teacher,

Whoever that was to experience something in this life,

Create something together in this life.

This is a collective existence.

That is a collective consciousness.

A lot of species,

They exist as collectives.

So that's why,

You know,

For example,

Pleiadians,

They are known as the Pleiadian collective,

You know,

It's a collective,

They have a collective consciousness.

They are no more concerned with their only individual ego based requirements,

But they think about the collective.

There is also,

You know,

Again,

This is just a speculation.

This is just,

You know,

This is something which cannot be proved as fact or something,

But a lot of people who believe in extra-artistry species or extra-dimensional species,

They also talk about this concept of having a galactic Federation,

You know,

That there's a galactic Federation,

Which can,

Which is concerned about the universe or which is concerned about the galaxy,

You know,

And it functions as a galactic collective,

Which,

Which,

Which works on the,

Or which is concerned about the wellbeing of the galaxy entirely.

So it's a collective consciousness.

That is when you actually,

You know,

Transcend your individuality,

You know that you are a part of a collective and you need,

You,

You think about that collective when you are a kind of an ambassador,

You know,

You are a kind of an ambassador for that collective or you are kind of a global ambassador.

For example,

Let's say,

You know,

Let's hypothesize this,

Let's imagine this,

Let's say tomorrow,

You know,

When we connect to extra-terrestrial species,

You will,

You might become that person who is like an ambassador to humanity.

So if you are an ambassador to humanity,

To other species,

You are part of a collective,

You know,

You have become a collective being,

You are collectively creating,

You are worried about the collective rather than individuality.

You know,

For example,

Diplomats from different countries,

They are thinking about the country and not just about themselves,

Although there is a lot of corruption and they do think about themselves,

But it is about the country or it is about that collective thing.

So that's a collective creation.

When you are,

You know,

As a,

You connect to that state as an energy being,

You are in that state of collective consciousness,

That unity with others,

And you think about,

You know,

You actually work on the well-being of your species,

Of other species,

You are also uplifting other species,

You know,

There might be species that may be helping humanity right now in awakening.

So that is their work as a collective creation.

And we are asking this like trees or mushrooms that exist connected to each other.

Oh yes,

Absolutely.

You know,

Spot on.

I absolutely believe that mycelium is a collective consciousness,

Collective species.

Okay,

So then we move on to the next level in the final stage of enlightenment,

Which is called God consciousness.

This is that stage of unity.

This is that stage of oneness.

This is that stage where we realize or where we connect to that unity,

That oneness.

And we realize that we are actually just one single being,

This one single creature,

Which has divided itself into so many parts.

You connect with that unity,

You become,

You know,

You experience that God state,

You experience that oneness with entire existence.

Now a lot of enlightened mystics have talked about this.

Buddha has talked about this state of unity,

Of oneness with everything.

Rumi has talked about this.

Jesus has talked about this.

Many of those spiritual mystics have talked about that unity state.

Many of us even experience this,

Experience the glimpses of this unity in our deeper levels of meditation,

You know,

Or in our psychedelic journey or plant medicine journey,

Whatever,

Or you know,

In our other states of,

Other ways of experiencing those states,

Breath work,

You know,

Whatever that is.

A lot of times we get this glimpse of the state of unity and we realize that there is no difference between anything.

We are just this one single being which has divided itself into so many parts,

So many species,

So many individuals.

So that unity,

Once we achieve that unity,

You know,

Then this state of enlightenment that many people talk about,

They develop this compassion for everyone.

They develop this compassion for existence because then you realize that you are not different from anyone in any sense,

That I am in you and you are in me.

When we hurt someone else,

We are actually hurting ourselves.

You know,

It is like this,

This particular finger of my hand trying to hurt this particular finger.

Ultimately I'm hurting myself.

It is like my right hand trying to hurt my left hand.

Ultimately I'm hurting myself.

You know,

It is that particular realization and it is,

That's why,

You know,

When someone experiences that enlightenment,

They have compassion,

They forever are in that state of compassion because they know that it is all me,

You know,

It is all that oneness.

A lot of times it becomes scary also for a lot of people.

It is a feeling of sadness and bliss at the same time because the scary feeling is that,

Oh I am just this one single being,

You know,

I'm alone,

Kind of alone,

But the opposite side of it is that I am so much,

We all are one together,

There are so many parts of me,

You know,

So it is like that state of experiencing these two energies at the same time,

The sadness and bliss,

Where there is a feeling of aloneness of one that I am just this one single being divided into so many parts,

But also,

You know,

It is a feeling of bliss that I am one with everyone,

You know,

This feeling of joy,

This happiness that I am one with all these infinite beings who are a part of this existence.

This is the ultimate level of realization and we all are moving towards that and once we experience,

You know,

That to some extent our lives are changed after that,

You know,

We are not the same anymore,

We cannot then hate anybody because if hating another person is like hating myself then,

You know,

It is something like,

We cannot hurt anyone because hurting another person is hurting myself.

So I think we all,

That is the state that many of us want to experience,

That state of unity,

That is why we want to connect with each other,

That is why we,

You know,

Two people when they are loving each other,

They want to get into each other totally,

Why?

Because we want to again become one,

This is our movement towards oneness,

We want to experience that oneness at a very deeper level.

So this is what the final stage of unity consciousness or God consciousness is about.

So what is that for you?

Have you ever experienced that?

Have you got a glimpse of that in your meditation,

In your journey,

In your whatever practice you do?

Have you got a glimpse of that?

Someone asked,

Can we experience different levels at different times?

Yes,

Absolutely,

Absolutely.

In fact,

Many of us pages also,

You know,

We have been through these seven levels,

We have got a glimpse of that,

But we might not be there permanently,

But many of us get a glimpse of all these levels.

Short glimpses,

I feel it frequently.

Kriya meditation,

Jainism,

We all experience this in some way or the other.

I feel I've been everywhere at the same time.

Beautiful.

Is this lovemaking at a soul level?

Yes,

You can say that absolutely.

Someone asked,

Can you share your experiences?

Okay,

So one of my experience was,

You know,

In a very deeper state of meditation,

I think I experienced,

I got a glimpse of that state where I was one with everything and I could feel that oneness with everything.

But again,

As I said,

It was a feeling,

It was a dual kind of a feeling of sadness and bliss at the same time where the sadness was that I am alone.

I am this only single individual being who has divided itself in so many parts,

Me,

You,

You know,

Animals,

Other species.

But this is a feeling of aloneness that I am alone,

But on the other hand,

It is a beautiful feeling of being infinite of having so many experiences at the same time,

You know.

So I think many of us,

We get some glimpse of that in some ways or the other.

Okay,

So.

Someone said,

Like,

One cannot hold on to or force this state.

Yes,

Absolutely,

It cannot be forced.

It is a journey.

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