Episode #2 With Momentology On Yoga Music, Art Creation, How To Collaborate

Hello friends and listeners from all across the globe.

Welcome back to The Yogi Show episode number two.

We have our very first guest,

Mr.

Patrick Kieczak,

Who happens to be the producer of The Yogi Show,

Also known as Momentology.

I'm sure you've heard his music in your yoga classes.

He's an incredible DJ,

Instrumentalist,

Producer,

And performer.

He likes to synergize rich layers of organic soundscapes and live instrumentation.

He blends it up into a lush forest of deep bass,

Dance beats,

Vibrational healing frequencies,

And indigenous wisdom.

Momentology has performed at music,

Art,

Yoga,

Flow arts,

And transformational festivals and events all around the USA.

He is absolutely killing it on Spotify and SoundCloud.

You definitely need to check it out.

Like I said,

I'm sure you've heard some of these songs in your classes.

He's done some great collaborations with DJ Taz Rashid,

Borangi,

And Source Radiance,

Just to name a few.

He is an incredible friend of mine,

And we are so grateful that he took the time to join us on this episode of the show.

Before we dive into the episode,

If you could please subscribe to this podcast on whatever platform that you listen to podcasts the most so that we can move up in the rankings and share this podcast with more and more people around the globe.

It is really important to us.

If you could drop a review,

We'd appreciate it as we're just starting out here on this journey,

And it's been an amazing ride so far.

This being our first guest,

Mr.

Patrick Kiebzak,

So much fun.

We hope you enjoy this interview,

And make sure to check out his music,

Support him.

It's amazing.

If you're a yoga teacher,

You're gonna be using these tracks in your classes.

I guarantee it.

So without further ado,

Let's jump right into the interview.

Namaste,

My friends.

["D Thank you so much for being here on the show.

We are so grateful to have Mr.

Momentology on the show today,

Recording with me and Yogi Brian.

What's up,

Gentlemen?

What?

How are you,

Pedro?

Fantastic.

How are you,

Mr.

Momentology?

Fantastic as well.

Thanks for having me on,

Man.

Absolutely,

We're grateful.

What's up,

Brian?

What is going on,

Momentology?

What is up?

How are you doing?

Good,

Man,

Good.

It's like a nice afternoon here in Florida.

I'm inside because it's like 96 degrees outside right now,

And I'd rather be in here talking with you guys anyway.

Dude,

It is smoking outside.

I know,

I know.

Pedro knows,

Because we both live in Florida.

So you guys live in Florida,

I live in Phoenix.

It is hot as shit here,

Too.

It's just different.

We get that humidity.

Brian,

What is the average temperature in Phoenix right now at like 3 o'clock?

Probably around 110 degrees.

Oh my god.

But it's like dry,

Right?

It's dry.

And so anytime you get in the car,

It takes about 15 to 20 minutes for your car to cool down.

So by the time you get to certain places,

It's finally cooling down.

So I was born in New York,

Man,

And it was the opposite.

You would have to get in the car,

You have to wait till the car heats up,

And then your windows would defrost.

Totally the opposite problem.

That's how it was in Chicago the same way as New York.

And here,

I know what you mean,

Brian,

By that.

And by the time you get to your destination,

You've like sweat through three shirts.

Exactly.

And uh.

Like wearing the business attire,

And you got just pits are just soaked.

Absolutely soaked.

So it's too funny.

But Patrick,

We are so happy to have you on the show.

So Patrick is the producer of this show.

He is the one that makes all the magic happen each and every week when you're hearing these episodes,

And the wonderful music,

And the sounds,

His tunes exclusively.

So we can't be,

We are so grateful for him helping us on this journey to make the Yogi show possible.

And I mean,

Without you,

Patrick,

Honestly,

I don't think we would be having a show.

Like I wouldn't,

I would have thrown my computer out the window already.

Yeah,

Patrick,

You complete me.

Oh,

Wow.

Well,

I'm honored to be able to help you guys.

I used to do a podcast,

So it was kind of an easy transition to help you,

Because you're both pretty cool.

I mean,

Like a 50% out of 100,

You know,

You're OK.

Oh my gosh,

We got that recorded,

Right?

Momentology said we're cool.

I'll loop that over every morning.

I'm adding that to the morning routine.

It's part of the morning affirmations.

Momentology said I'm 50% cool.

No,

I follow both of you guys on the internet,

And I read your funny content.

So you actually inspire me to make funny content myself,

Even though I don't have a meme account.

It's good.

It's good.

It's great,

Man.

It's great.

We get to inspire you to make funny content and memes.

And I've always wanted to be like a DJ.

And it hasn't happened yet,

Except for when you let me play your decks when we go to gigs,

Because Patrick and I have done.

I was a DJ one time in Miami at a gig that we did,

Or maybe twice.

But it's always on my,

I just want to do it.

It just hasn't happened yet.

But how did you get into DJing?

How did this whole music thing happen for you back in the day?

How did it happen,

Man?

It's a long story,

So I hope you're ready for this.

Lay it on us.

All right,

You want the long version or the short version?

I want the long version,

Just because it's cooler.

Well,

I always had an interest in music.

My parents always played music around me when I was growing up.

They loved bands like The Beatles and the Moody Blues and Eric Clapton,

Like old classic rock.

And I was always exposed to that.

Funny enough,

Though,

As a kid,

I don't really remember this too much.

My parents always told me I requested classical music radio stations in the car.

Oh,

Wow.

Yeah,

I don't even remember doing that.

But my mom literally,

At one point,

Was like,

You loved classical music.

I'm like,

I don't remember.

So that was my early influence growing up.

And there came a point where I think I was like 14 years old.

I was like,

I want a guitar.

So I asked for electric guitar for Christmas,

And I got one.

And I literally picked it up.

I played it.

And I was like,

I don't want to play guitar.

It was the weirdest thing.

It was like the 14-year-old desire.

You want something,

And then you get it,

And you're like,

This is actually stupid.

I don't want to do it anymore.

Yeah,

Forget this.

Exactly.

You're like,

How long do I have to return this?

Exactly.

No,

It was funny.

We sold it at a garage sale.

It was like a cheap Fender Square,

Those starter kits.

And I actually have a picture with it.

And I'm just like,

I'm on the other side of the room.

My friend's holding it.

And we didn't know what to do.

We were just holding the guitar.

And it was so foreign.

It was like a foreign object.

It's like this piece of wood with these strings attached to it.

And what do you do with this thing?

That was what went through my mind.

How does one go from a piece of wood with just metal strings to beautiful music?

I had no idea.

No one wanted to teach me lessons.

No one was like,

Here,

Do lessons.

They were just like,

Here's the guitar.

I'm like,

OK,

No.

I have better things to do.

Forget it.

Those better things are video games right now.

That was literally what my mindset was at 14 years old.

Video games.

Yeah.

What video game?

Well,

I played a bunch of games growing up.

Actually,

Around 14,

15,

When I got the guitar,

It was RuneScape.

That was like,

I don't know,

What,

1999,

1998.

I don't even,

I can't do math.

You just dated yourself,

Bro.

You went to the 90s.

I was hoping you would say Mario Kart for some reason.

No,

I actually,

I had a friend who had an N64,

But I didn't have one.

I actually had a computer that I actually built myself around 16 years old.

You built a computer at 16.

I built my computer myself.

When World of Warcraft came out,

I actually was wholeheartedly addicted to that game.

And that got me totally deep in the rabbit hole of gaming.

It's a whole other story.

Different podcast,

Though.

The game that got me interested in music,

Funny enough,

Game that got me interested in music,

You don't usually hear that,

Was Guitar Hero.

You guys remember that game?

Oh,

Yes.

Shredding,

Though.

Shredding.

Yeah,

Of course.

Of course.

We're like 30-year-olds like you,

Man.

Of course you play guitar.

Yeah,

I consider myself a guitarist.

Because of the plastic controller?

Because of,

Exactly.

I never made it to advance,

But.

See,

No.

But pretty dang good.

I made it to expert,

Man.

Oh my gosh.

In like two months,

I went from knowing nothing on Guitar Hero to like barely keeping up with the notes to literally beating the hardest saw on expert.

And yeah,

That was a cool experience because I got to learn finger placement,

Finger speed.

Now,

There's only five buttons on the thing,

So you're not moving up and down the neck like a real guitar.

But I literally trained my pointer,

Index,

Middle,

And pinky finger.

I say pointer and index?

That was ridiculous.

Pointer,

Middle,

Ring,

And pinky.

Fill it with you,

Bro.

To use more coffee.

Not anatomy specialists.

It's cool.

It's cool.

Doctor of music.

I made my fingers move in these crazy patterns and like these chords.

And I literally made them do things that I wasn't even thinking of.

It was just like a feeling that I was like just they were kind of taken over based on the notes on the screen.

If you never played guitar before or ever seen it,

It's basically like a game where notes fly at your face on a screen.

And you have to match the notes with your finger on the left.

And then you have to strum them with your finger on the right.

So it kind of mimics a real guitar.

So I literally learned finger speed.

I learned picking rhythm on a game.

Dude,

That's freaking cool.

Yeah,

That's awesome.

I mean,

I played and I was in a band.

And I was never good at guitar.

I was terrible.

And I think Guitar Hero inspired me.

But I mean,

Now I just make memes on the internet and teach yoga.

You're in a metal band,

Right?

Yeah,

I was in a hardcore screamo,

Emo,

Post hardcore band.

And we were called Hennigans,

Just like the liquor from Seinfeld that got Kramer lit AF.

We were called Hennigans,

Dude.

And we were absolutely horrible.

I mean,

Who wasn't at that age?

But we had a good time,

Man.

OK,

Real quick,

Because I mean,

My integrity was challenged for this moment in my life.

But we wanted to play a Battle of the Bands concert for a high school thing.

We submitted a demo CD of a band that was actually a band and said that it was our music.

And they're like,

Yeah,

You can play.

And then we played our own stuff.

And it was ridiculous.

It was like a wash page.

You guys forged an entry?

Yeah.

It was awesome,

Though.

That's a savage move,

Bro.

Savage.

But you got your guitar.

You went into music.

You went into bands.

What kind of music were you making?

So the whole thing that propelled me into real instruments was I also used to be a metal head.

I loved punk.

I actually still do.

I love all music.

Yeah,

Favorite punk band.

One,

Two,

Three,

Go.

Tool.

I also love No Effects.

No Effects is my favorite punk band.

I love AFI,

The old stuff before the Miss Murder generation.

I hate that stuff.

But the older stuff,

Like Black Sails in the Sunset.

I don't know if you guys know that album.

Amazing.

Amazing album.

I lost my keys in a mosh pit at Lollapalooza to AFI,

Just saying.

But somebody returned them,

And I found them at the end of the night at the Lost & Found.

People in mosh pits are so nice.

If you fall down,

They'll help you up.

You would think that they're fighting each other,

But they're not.

They're actually just having a good time.

Yeah,

That was the real story.

I was crowd surfing and mosh pitting in a circle pit,

And I found them,

Though.

So I beat Guitar Hero on Expert.

I beat every song.

I basically beat the game,

And I'm like,

What now?

So I was Googling when Google first came out,

And YouTube,

And how to put your own songs into Guitar Hero.

And I was like,

I really wanted to play Tool.

I was like,

I want to play the song Lateralus and Parabola,

These really classic Tool songs.

And I quickly realized it was going to take a long time to figure out how to mod my Xbox,

My Xbox,

The first ever one,

Like a 360,

I think,

Or get the game on my computer.

I got to find a USB port to plug the guitar in,

And then I got to illegally download the game.

It was like a whole finagling task.

So I'm like,

You know what?

My brother at the time,

He was like,

Dude,

Why don't you just put all this energy into real guitar,

Man?

You'd be so much better at life.

He was always kind of getting in my case.

And he's slowly encouraging me,

Like,

Do something real.

Don't just sit here and play video games.

Video games are my life.

I was totally obsessed with them.

He's like,

Bro,

Get out of the basement and do something real in your life.

Basements don't exist in Florida,

Brian.

So it was my room on the other side of the house.

But good try.

So I was literally having this predicament,

Like,

What do I do here?

It's like,

You know what?

I'm not going to take my brother's advice,

Because it was my brother at the time.

I'm just going to do it because I want to do it.

But thank you,

Bro,

For encouraging me.

And I was like,

Mom,

Can I borrow your acoustic guitar?

Of course you can.

Here you go.

I restrung.

I learned how to restring it all my own.

No one taught me.

And I started to learn tool songs.

And it hurt like hell.

Literally,

My fingers were like these blister cakes for weeks,

Just because I had never played a guitar before.

And they were numb after a week.

I couldn't feel my fingers.

It was really weird.

So I ended up learning every tool song I wanted to learn,

Which was like 30 or 40.

They have a lot of songs.

Dude,

That's a lot of tracks.

I know.

The guitarist,

Adam Jones,

He doesn't make that complex of music.

It's really simple.

It's kind of like a good learning point,

Because it's just like riffing and just like simple chords.

Sweet,

Man.

And I'm sure you know that from your band days.

Yeah.

I was all about riffing and simple chords,

Because I didn't know how to play any chords.

So it's just like open,

Drop,

D,

Chug,

Chug,

Chug,

Wah.

That's exactly what tool is,

Man,

Drop,

D.

Like open chords,

Boom,

Done.

So then I was like,

All right,

I have a bunch of guitar knowledge.

Let me buy a bass,

Because it just felt cool to have four strings and low notes.

So I went out to Guitar Center when I was like 19.

I bought an Ibanez bass and an amp.

I spent all the money I had from this job I was working.

And I just started playing the bass.

I'm like,

This is fun.

It's different than the guitar.

And at the time,

I was in school for education.

So I was getting my associates,

And then later my bachelor's to become a teacher in elementary education.

Funny.

You were a teacher?

Yeah,

Yeah.

OK,

We're going to have to get into that.

Keep talking.

Yeah,

We can.

So I was in my first year of college when all this happened.

And I was in a really great education class with Dr.

Blackley,

Rest his soul.

He was an amazing teacher.

He was like 75,

And he was the funniest guy to be around as a teacher.

And I met in that class.

Did he have a beer?

Two guy.

He did,

I think.

OK.

I'm just picturing him in my head.

White hair.

He was kind of bald on the top.

I met these two guys in the class.

After we did our introductions,

I was like,

I'm into music.

They're like,

We're into music,

We're into music.

And it was like,

OK,

We've got a couple of music bros now.

I'm like,

We're all around the same age.

Nice.

So John was one of the guys I met.

He was a guitar player in a metal band.

Funny enough,

Where did we all come from?

Why did we all come from metal?

It was weird.

That was like the basis of our musical backgrounds.

And then the other guy,

Jason,

Was a singer.

And he kind of like reggae and fun,

Upbeat stuff.

He was kind of like a hip hop artist too.

We connected,

And we formed a band.

And we recorded some songs.

It never really worked out.

But me and the guitarist John went to another band.

We're like,

All right,

Let's try to make it happen with this one.

That didn't work out.

So we're like,

All right,

Let's go to this other band.

And we tried nothing.

So literally,

This was like,

I just sped up like four or five years.

So we decided,

Just me and John,

After all these failed attempts,

We learned a lot,

But it was a failed band,

To make our own music,

Just me and him.

So I was playing bass.

He was playing guitar.

We're like,

We can't just sit up here and play bass and guitar for an hour.

People are going to get bored.

So I'm like,

What if we layered some beats?

And I was like,

Instead of getting a little drum machine,

I'm going to get Ableton,

Because I heard it was a good music production.

You could also play live with it.

So I got Ableton on my netbook,

Like super,

Super,

Super new technology at the time.

But also,

It was a piece of shit.

It couldn't run more than a few tracks.

It was so bad.

But it did exactly what I needed to do,

Was basically just record the guitar and bass.

So we ended up making all this dubstep,

Metal,

Funk,

Electronic,

Progressive house.

It was this weird blend of music that we made.

Jam band,

Too,

Because we'd jam over our music.

And we would literally play over our songs live.

So it was as if we played our track,

And then we just jammed over it.

And that was our shows.

For an hour,

We'd play a mix of all this music.

And it literally went from metal to a Daft Punk cover.

And then it went to funk.

And then it went to house.

Like,

We played the gambit.

We're like,

We don't want to be pigeonholed into one genre.

Right.

Right.

I want to be at that concert,

Bro.

It was fun,

Man.

I had a good time.

That band was called Acrodamus.

Acrodamus?

Yeah,

Acrodamus.

Do you have any music of it that we could keep?

Yeah.

OK,

So you've got to send it to people.

We're going to link that in the show notes.

It's still online.

If you Google Acrodamus,

Just how it sounds,

You'll find it.

And what did you tour?

Did you actually go and do shows?

Yeah,

We did a bunch of shows locally.

We didn't tour outside of Florida.

We did a bunch of shows in Florida.

That's amazing.

What's the biggest band shows?

What's the biggest place you played?

Like,

How many people?

We ended up with a couple,

Like a 100-person show,

Maybe.

Nice.

Like this art gallery.

And then we had a couple of small venues with other bands.

So we played with other bands.

And their bands would show up.

Of course.

Was there any crowd surfing?

No,

No crowd surfing.

We weren't.

Have you ever crowd surfed?

I have never.

What?

I'm not really into crowds,

Actually.

Funny enough.

Introvert life.

Brian,

Have you ever crowd surfed?

I have never crowd surfed.

You guys haven't lived.

You guys haven't lived.

You've crowd surfed,

Nedrow.

How many times?

At least 30 or 40.

Minownless.

Dropped on my neck at Steve Aoki,

Bro.

I thought it was over.

I literally,

It was two weeks.

Last night?

Two,

No,

Not last night.

It was two weeks before Bikram Yoga teacher training.

And I got dropped on my neck in the middle of a,

Yeah.

It was ugly,

Man.

I didn't think,

It was bad.

Actually awesome.

That's.

And.

I've went to a CBFP concert,

Man.

They're pretty crazy.

He's like spraying champagne on everyone.

Smash cakes and stuff.

Smash cakes,

Yeah.

I was there,

Bro.

I was there.

It's like the equivalent of like a metal show.

Yeah.

Because he was all into that.

Just like your background.

Same thing.

Just like Skrillex,

Same thing.

Same thing,

Man.

Same thing.

How the hell did I end up making yoga music?

Yeah,

So that's what I want to get to.

So how did,

So all of this,

The guitar hero,

Into your bands,

And then yoga,

You know.

Like do you even do yoga,

Bro?

I do.

I do.

Not as much as I used to.

Do you even yoga,

Bro?

I got to be honest with it here.

But I do practice.

I actually like working out more and then like stretching in between my workouts before or after.

Because I'm actually a pretty skinny dude.

So if I do yoga,

I actually,

I don't build the muscle that I want to build.

It's more of like I just get more flexible.

And I'm already really flexible.

So it actually got scary at one point.

I was dislocating some of my,

Like.

What?

Yeah,

I literally dislocated my shoulder because I was so flexible.

Because I was doing so much yoga.

I was doing like five times a week maybe.

And then I would do it at home.

But I wasn't working the muscles out.

So I would just gain all this range of motion flexibility.

But I didn't have like muscle to back it up.

So I had to like stop doing yoga and start training my muscles.

And then once that happened,

It was like,

OK,

Now I can pair the flexibility with more of a muscle base so that I wasn't injuring myself.

It's a weird thing that I had to go through.

Well,

That is interesting.

I have never heard of some of it.

Brian,

Have you heard of some of that before?

I have.

And that's awesome that you're super mindful about that.

I mean,

Just you saying that.

Yeah,

You are a yogi because you're so mindful with how your body works.

Awareness,

Man.

Which is awesome too if you're new to yoga or haven't tried a yoga program.

See,

You can be too flexible.

If you're not flexible,

You're perfect to do yoga because you have so much room to grow.

So great insights on that,

Patrick,

For sure.

It was scary,

Man.

I remember I also used to be a,

I still am,

I guess,

But I used to too,

A fire spinner.

So I would spin basically these big Kevlar wicks on fire around my head and stuff.

And I remember it happened.

No big deal.

Yeah,

No NBD.

NBD.

I don't like crowds,

Though.

You just told the best story.

I mean,

I can't top that.

We can't top how cool you are,

Man.

Well,

That was where I had a problem because they were so heavy that I literally remember dislocating my shoulder twice and then popping it back into place in the sun.

It was crazy.

That's literally why I was like,

I got to stop doing yoga.

I got to start working out because of that experience.

I freaked myself out because I was like,

Oh my god,

I am going to get hurt doing this because I was too flexible.

And it looked cool.

I was moving in really crazy ways.

People were like,

You're so flexible.

I'm like,

Yeah,

I know.

I know.

I won.

I won at yoga.

I looked up everything I needed to with my body.

Wow.

So you strengthened up.

And then you got back to practicing a little bit,

Stretching between now.

Sweet.

So how did we get to the yoga music,

Though?

Oh,

Yeah,

The yoga music.

How did this happen?

So right around the time where I got into yoga was the acrodamus phase when I was in that band.

And the guitar player,

Too,

He meditates every day.

He's really into mindfulness,

Loves metal,

Funny enough.

And he,

At the time,

Had to move.

He had to go away.

And I was like,

Shit.

I just put like 2 and 1-2,

3 years of my life into this project.

I can't do it alone.

Acrodamus is two people.

It's not one person.

So I was like,

What do I do?

So I decided to stop doing music for a year,

A whole year.

I took a hiatus.

Man,

What did you do?

Did you do lift?

Did you go?

No.

Funny enough,

I went on this kind of solo spiritual journey.

At the time,

My girlfriend and I broke up.

I was in between jobs,

Actually seasons.

I was a teacher.

And it was my summertime.

All this stuff happened at once,

Where everything just fell away.

And I'm like,

You know what?

I'm just going to go travel by myself.

And so I left.

Nice.

I left everything.

I went kind of all over the country.

But I ended up in Colorado for like 2 and 1-2 months.

That was fun.

Basically couch surfing.

Totally different person I was back then.

Totally not grounded.

I felt really like.

Soul searching.

Soul searching.

It was like my own personal journey.

Yeah,

I've done the same kind of thing before.

I know what that's like,

Man.

And it's a wonderful thing to come back to,

And then get grounded in,

And then go from there.

Exactly.

So I went around.

And I came back to Florida.

And I was like,

Why am I even in Florida?

Because this place,

I don't like the state.

It's so hot and sweaty.

What I experienced in Colorado was the exact opposite of what I felt in Florida.

So I'm like,

I think I'm going to move somewhere.

Was it winter or summer in Colorado?

It was late summer.

It was so beautiful.

So it was super nice.

Sign me up.

It smelled good.

It was so good.

It smelled good.

That smelled fresh.

I was like,

What laundry detergent tries to be?

I just made that up.

Nature's laundry detergent.

Yeah,

That's a tagline slogan for the future.

We're going to put that in the show notes.

You need to patent that immediately.

I'm going to use that at the end of class.

Colorado,

What laundry detergent and weed smokers want.

All right,

So I came back to Florida.

And I was just like kind of directionless,

Because I didn't actually go back to teaching in the season.

I was like,

What do I do?

So I just kind of asked the question.

And I just waited for an answer.

And it was like weeks and like a month.

And I was like,

Really just I wasn't confused.

But I also wasn't clear.

I was like,

I was just asking,

What does God want me to do?

And right around this time,

A really good friend of mine,

He was like,

Hey,

I got this really cool thing in South Florida that I've been doing.

It's called the gratitude training.

And I'm like,

The gratitude training?

I'm like,

What is that?

Gratitude training.

I already love it.

Long story short,

I end up in South Florida on my friend's couch doing this training.

The training ends up going from a weekend to another weekend.

And then I ended up doing it for like three months.

It literally felt like,

Have you guys ever seen the show Portlandia?

Yes.

You know that episode where they go to that farm with the chickens?

Yes.

That's how I felt.

I felt like I showed up at the farm.

And then somehow I stayed there for like three and a half months.

And I was like,

Wait,

What?

And I'm still here.

I'm still here.

You went down the rabbit hole,

You're saying.

Yeah,

Exactly.

If you haven't seen that episode,

It's hilarious.

Just that episode of Portlandia specifically.

So I kind of woke up from this like,

I got totally enveloped in this community.

And it was a great community.

Totally great experience.

It allowed me to see where my limitations were.

It's kind of like a landmark training.

So did you actually go to a place and do this training?

It was almost like a seminar.

It was like a Tony Robbins seminar,

But a little more personal.

It was just gratitude.

No,

It's much more than gratitude.

It's like owning your shit,

Basically.

But it's called gratitude.

That's what the thing's called.

It's based on a landmark or a landmark form.

So all that happens.

And then I graduated.

And one of the things that I was shown based on the experience was that I got no direction right now.

Like I'm literally sleeping on my friend's couch,

Don't have a job.

By choice.

This is all by choice.

I did it on purpose so that I could figure out what I want to do.

And then it was like January 3rd.

I remember right after New Year's I graduated.

Funny enough,

That's how it worked out.

And I was like,

I need to do something.

And I got this computer.

I got Ableton on here.

I haven't made music in like a year.

I'm like,

I have nothing else to do.

Let me just start making music.

Let's see what happens.

Maybe nothing happens.

Maybe I have a great time.

So I ended up in like a week making these 12 tracks that were like down tempo,

Slow,

Deep,

Like really sensual music with live instruments with my guitar,

Beats,

Bass.

But it was so much different than my old music.

And I'm like,

Where the hell did that come from?

You were making baby making music,

Weren't you?

Not really baby making music.

It wasn't like R&B.

It wasn't very Manilow.

I wasn't singing.

But it was just slower.

It was much slower than the other stuff I made.

Gotcha.

And I'm like,

That was cool.

And then I started to make more and more and more and more.

I started to get invited.

People noticed I was making this music.

Like,

Hey,

You want to play for this and this and this.

And then someone was like,

Hey,

You want to play for my breath work class?

Her name was Lori.

And I was like,

Sure.

This is my first ever show officially,

My official show where I promoted it.

And paid,

First ever paid show,

I'll say.

And under this new name.

And I was like,

At the time,

What do I call myself?

And a friend of mine was running these workshops,

Like these hour,

Hour and a half workshops.

And he was calling it Momentology,

And an inquiry into the moment.

And you would discuss things in a circle.

And I'm like,

I like that name.

And I was like,

Hey,

Brian,

Do you think,

How do you feel if I used that name for my music project?

Because I really felt like it was a cool name.

And he's like,

Hmm.

He's like,

Well,

I'm really not planning on going crazy with this name.

We're just doing these little events that are really little.

He wasn't going to trademark it or anything.

So he's like,

Yeah,

Go ahead.

I'm like,

All right,

You know that I'm probably going to do some cool stuff with this,

Right?

And he's like,

Yeah,

Dude,

Do whatever you want.

Probably going to kill it,

Bro.

He had no idea what I was actually doing.

I didn't even know if he understood,

But he gave me the OK.

So I took this name.

And I was like,

This is going to be the name of my music project.

And I had this first show at a breathwork class with Laurie Reyes down here in South Florida.

And it was awesome.

I literally was playing guitar,

DJing my music,

Which is what I did with Akrodamus,

But it was just me.

So I got to cultivate this space by myself.

And the people at the breathwork class,

Everyone's breathing in and out the whole time.

And it's really intuitive breathing.

And after the class,

Everyone was like,

Holy shit,

What did you just do?

And I'm like,

I don't even know.

I just made this music in my room.

And then I went out here and played it to this class.

It was like people had a psychedelic experience listening to this music.

And I'm like,

There's something to this.

And the rest is history.

Nice,

Man.

Like,

I got something.

Exactly.

I got something.

And now you got 19,

667 monthly listeners on Spotify.

I just guessed.

I just guessed.

Totally.

Is that right?

Yeah.

I actually just looked this morning,

Sir.

And you hit 1,

000 followers on Spotify this month.

Congrats.

Congrats,

Man.

Brochacho,

Amazing.

That's so cool,

Man.

I just started promoting my Spotify last year,

Too.

I used to be a SoundCloud guy.

And then you realized that Spotify actually sends you loot when you put music up there?

Well,

Now SoundCloud sends you money if you select their pro-monetization stuff.

But it's not nearly as pro as Spotify.

Gotcha.

Yeah,

Spotify is just trying to take over the world.

Yeah.

I'm a Spotify fan myself.

I use Spotify for all my playlists.

Pedro,

What do you use?

Spotify,

Man.

Spotify all day.

My brother uses Tyler.

What do you like,

Patrick?

What do you like the most in terms of a platform?

Well,

Speaking of that,

Spotify is like my go-to because secret.

They pay 0.

06 cents per stream.

So that equates 1 million streams.

You get paid $4,

000.

For a million streams?

A million streams.

So not bad,

Right?

I mean,

It's actually,

If you think about it,

If 1 million streams,

Let's say you had 12 tracks on an album.

So that would be 1 million divided by 12.

That would be,

Let's say,

83,

333 full album streams.

Let's equate that to someone purchasing a CD,

Which is what I used to do.

Are you doing this math in your head right now?

Maybe.

I'm actually a math tutor.

So let's say you sold those CDs for $10.

They're 12 tracks.

That's $833,

000.

Yeah.

So the streaming industry totally changed the way that people have to look at music.

Because instead of selling those 83,

000 albums and getting a million plays and then making $833,

000 off those CDs,

Which is what used to happen,

People aren't buying that shit anymore.

Now they're just streaming it,

Which you only get paid $1,

000 for the same thing that would have paid all that money.

Now,

I'm not saying that literally that would have been the exact calculation.

I just made those numbers up.

But that's kind of how it shifted everything.

Record labels are getting kind of strange.

In that way,

What do we do?

We got to keep up with the times.

So that's why I like Spotify,

Because they kind of have this new approach to at least paying a little bit.

But they're actually really low in the grand scheme of things.

YouTube is the worst.

Tidal,

I don't know if you guys have heard of the music service Tidal,

Is one of the best.

Tidal?

Yeah,

Tidal.

They have the highest audio quality stream.

So it's like flak quality you can choose,

Which is basically lossless audio.

It doesn't lose any audio quality.

So basically,

It comes out of my computer and goes straight into that app.

And that's how it appears.

There's no codecs.

And the way Spotify works is they run their audio through all these codecs.

And the codecs actually degrade the audio quality to match all the other audio on there,

So that when you listen to one song on a playlist and another,

They're around the same volume,

And they're around the same equalization levels in a way.

So one song isn't loud,

One song isn't soft.

Tidal's like,

You're going to get the album the way that it was made,

Which is cool.

The rising.

Exactly.

It's a little more money a month.

It's like $26 a month.

It's actually Jay-Z.

Jay-Z made it.

It's his personal phone.

So he's like,

Right.

Brush the dirt off your shoulder.

That was the worst Jay-Z impression ever.

That was pretty bad.

But you should definitely brush the dirt off your shoulders,

Man,

With the success that you've had,

Man.

No joke,

Man.

Thanks,

Man.

You've been making it happen,

Bro.

But I want to know,

And I think our listeners want to know,

It's like,

Okay,

So you're making these tracks,

You do a little bit of yoga,

You're into mindfulness.

So what are you thinking about when you're making a track for,

Specifically for yoga or a meditative track?

Is there a process to it?

Can you walk us through how you would make that happen?

So you said the word thinking.

What are you thinking?

That's probably the worst thing to do when you're making music is think,

Because the mind actually gets in the way of the music.

It's almost like the music is its own entity and it kind of wants to come out onto end of this world,

Right?

So if you try to think about making music,

It actually hinders the music from actually expressing itself.

So you feel,

Yeah,

It's almost like there's a song to be sung,

What's the song?

And then you remove the mind and then the music just kind of comes through.

I think about that with regards to creativity,

Like making memes on the internet.

If I think about it,

Nothing happens.

Literally nothing's going to happen,

You know?

But if you just allow the creativity to come out,

It just happens.

Well,

That's like the flow state.

That's where everything is created from,

Essentially.

Yeah.

So there is a very big intellectual thinking aspect to making music,

Which is like learning the program,

Learning the instruments,

Understanding what the plugins do,

Understanding structure and not really theory in a way.

I never really learned music theory,

But how chords work together,

How different sounds work together,

How you can literally make something sound full.

Like there's all this thought to making music,

But it's almost as if,

For me anyway,

I don't know how everyone else does it,

But I've put the thinking work in.

Like I've done the work prior,

Like I've probably made so many templates for me to actually make music and that I actually have to do think to make templates.

Like what am I going to use in a song?

All right,

I'll use a delay and a reverb and like all these different plugins in a song.

Like I want all this stuff to come in at one point,

But then once it's all made,

Like the template's there,

I got all my plugins set,

Then it's just like a canvas.

It's like a really dope canvas that I can say,

Okay,

Now I'm not going to think.

Now I'm going to actually just let the music come out.

Ah,

Amazing.

Yeah.

You painted that picture so well.

I have that in my head.

Yeah,

I can literally see like how that would unfold,

Man.

Seriously.

So then what happens is like when this music comes out,

It's usually in like a big jumble of sounds and riffs and chords.

And this is what I compare it to.

I've compared it to this a couple of times.

I actually,

I don't remember where I heard this.

This is an original,

But this is literally how it feels.

It's like a stone sculptor.

He starts with a big giant piece of stone,

Right?

And then once he decides what he wants to make,

So that would be like throwing everything in there,

Getting everything in the mix.

It's a big piece of stone.

Let's say you want to make a statue of a man.

Let's say you want to make Julius Caesar out of stone,

Right?

You got to sit there.

You got to,

All right,

I'm going to carve out the head.

I'm going to carve out the chest.

I'm going to carve out the abdomen,

The legs,

And you carve everything out.

And then it's like kind of rough.

Like it's in the shape of a man now.

And then you have to say,

All right,

Now I want to actually give detail.

I want to make eyes.

I want to make his abs.

I want to carve each individual ab.

I want to make his bicep look like a bicep.

That's literally how music is to me.

It's like you have to take all the information that was just poured through,

And then you got to like remove stuff.

So you're like taking things out more than you're putting things in usually.

So like you start with this big block and you're like removing all the junk.

You're moving all the excess stone to get to the abs.

All the junk in the trunk.

Yeah.

You're taking the fat out to make the abs shine through.

You know what's funny?

Before you started painting the picture about like carving the stone out,

I was thinking about like abs.

Like the guy's got to have abs.

And then he started talking about abs.

Yeah,

That's what you think about.

You think of like a statue of a guy.

You think of abs.

Yeah.

And like he's like,

You know that pose where he's got like his hand on his face and he's like just sitting down looking,

You know.

I do.

That's literally what I'm thinking of too.

Is that what you're thinking about when the track comes to fruition and it's like produced?

No,

Just when I'm explaining this description.

Like I'm Julius.

I need to give this song some abs.

I mean,

You know,

In a funny roundabout sense,

Yes.

But I'm not literally thinking about Julius Caesar's abs,

You freak.

Of course.

If you did,

That'd be a sweet song though.

Yes.

Can you just say him?

Can you make,

Can you make a song?

Julius,

Can you make a track called Julius Caesar,

Please?

I can,

But I'm probably not gonna.

Might be your million downloads right there.

There you go,

Man.

I love it.

You ever know?

Maybe another,

Another music project.

Cause actually I have this,

Not released yet.

I got to give a shout out to DJ Taz Rashid.

He and I have totally melded in this music making process.

It doesn't always work this way.

Like sometimes you make music with someone.

It's not really that easy,

But it's so easy with this guy.

We actually,

We made a really successful album called Back to Life.

And we actually have one of my faves people,

One of my faves people love it.

And we have this like desire to make dance music.

We always have,

But like the music for yoga is what's most like drawing for,

For people.

So we're like,

Let's make that music.

So we actually decided to,

Uh,

To make all this dance music.

And we have all this dance music just like sitting on our hard drives.

We're going to slowly release it over the next like year or so.

Amazing.

Yeah.

It's basically this like totally,

Uh,

Alter personality from Momentology and DJ Taz.

It's like the exact opposite of what you'd expect from us.

So maybe we'll make a track under that name called Julius Ezer.

Yes.

Yes.

It's happening.

It's happening,

Man.

DJ Taz Rashid is,

It's happening,

Man.

And I wanted to talk about that collab.

So,

I mean,

With DJ Taz,

I mean,

We,

I love the Back to Life album so much.

I know Brian,

I know you're a huge fan of Back to Life and,

Um,

It's really,

It just,

It really is amazing.

Like super,

Super amazing.

So you guys did a wonderful job on that album.

And,

Um,

You know,

When you guys started collabing,

Um,

And making music together and whatnot,

Like how did the,

Um,

I guess,

I guess maybe you can't speak for him,

But like,

How does that inspiration come through to create the,

Like the music with like someone else?

You know what I mean?

Because it's one thing to do it by yourself,

But to partner up and do it with someone else,

Like,

Like,

What is that?

Like,

Can you like maybe take us a little bit through that process and like kind of how it goes?

Yeah.

I mean,

Sometimes it's really easy and sometimes it's a struggle.

Usually if it's a struggle,

Um,

I,

I'm not there for long.

Like,

I'm just like,

Okay,

This isn't really,

Uh,

Doesn't feel great.

But in this case,

It felt awesome because I can't,

Again,

You said you can't speak for him.

I can't speak for him,

But it literally felt like it was another me producing music.

It was like,

It was like,

If I had me sitting next to me,

Telling me what to do,

That's literally kind of how it worked.

And then like,

We would bounce ideas off each other so easily.

The way that we play guitar is almost very similar.

And like,

I,

I kind of,

Uh,

I've been learning the piano and he's like a pro piano player.

So like,

He's literally like,

He does a lot of the piano on our tracks.

So I'm like,

Wow,

That's literally how I would play the piano if I was as good as him.

Wow.

And the way that I mix the songs and the way that I blend things and I actually,

I've been mastering our songs too.

The way that I do that from what I've been told is like,

He,

He would love to learn all that and he would love to do that in our songs,

But he just doesn't have the time to like invest in that.

Similarly to how I didn't have the time to invest in piano.

I was learning how to mix and master songs.

I was learning the sound design,

Like the nerdy stuff,

Like the really nitty gritty,

Like to make the song sound like full and not crowded,

Like the Julius Caesar,

You know?

So,

So the way that it worked with,

With us too initially was we use this program called Splice,

Right?

So Splice is,

Uh,

It's free to use,

But it also has some paid subscriptions and it allows us to use Ableton Live,

Which is what we both produce on.

That's the program.

It says like a Logic or Fruity Loops.

There's a GarageBand.

There's a bunch of programs that do it,

But Ableton,

I think,

I think is the best,

But other people like other programs,

But we,

We both loved Ableton Live.

So we're like,

Let's,

Let's use this.

And Splice,

What it allows us to do is upload the projects to the Splice cloud.

And then whoever makes a change,

Let's say I have the song and I changed the drums.

It'll save it on my computer as it should.

And then it'll save it on Splice and literally it'll download it to his computer with a click of a button and then he'll open it like he's looking at it on my computer.

Wow.

So it's amazing.

That's amazing software.

I know.

And it's,

It's free.

That part of it is free,

Which is just ridiculous.

That's free.

So you can make music together and not even be in the same place.

Exactly.

And that's why it was so easy because like I would create like a beat,

Like a foundation structure,

Send it to him and he would just do all of his stuff and then he would just,

It would just upload automatically.

He doesn't have to hit a button.

I would download his changes and I'd mix all of his stuff in,

Send it back to him.

He would add more stuff.

And then it was like,

The song is done.

Literally like two,

Two or three runs from both of us.

The song is done.

And then we print it.

That's amazing.

Like that's like the technology and then synchronicities of like the universe,

Like pairing you guys together.

And when it,

When it,

You know,

When you're in that flow state and it's working that easily without force,

It's like,

This is meant to be,

You don't have to force,

You know what I mean,

That's,

That's where,

You know,

Real organic creation and magic happens.

You know,

Amazing stuff happens in that flow state.

I got to give a shout out to Srikala.

Okay.

Srikalaji.

That was his,

His prior musical moniker.

Do you guys know who Srikala is?

Srikala?

Srikala.

S-R-I-K-A-L-A.

Srikala.

He makes this like awesome,

It's like a mix of like electronic and like reggae,

Dub,

Hip hop.

It's,

It's awesome music.

He's,

He's a singer,

He's a songwriter.

He produces,

He's amazing.

Yeah.

I know some of it just from the,

The collab he did with Taz.

We did with Taz,

Right.

They made that,

Um,

Really good album.

Brian,

It's probably on one of your,

It's probably on some of your playlists,

Bro,

For sure.

I'm going to go,

I'm going to look at it for sure.

It,

Uh,

Native Spirit is their like hit from that album.

It's a great song.

You would know it,

Brian,

For sure.

I bet,

I bet money on it.

It's almost like a million listens right now.

It's like,

It's,

It's,

It's got so much recognition.

So the whole reason I bring him up is because we were on a call one time and he's like,

I think you and Taz would,

Would like working with each other.

He's like,

I think you guys would like each other as people.

I think you would vibe.

And I'm like,

Okay.

He's like,

Let me get you,

Let me get you guys connected.

And that was just like divine intervention from him.

Like he was just like,

Oh,

He kind of reminds me of Taz,

His style,

Whatever.

So let me just connect these guys.

That's like how we got linked up was through him.

Wow.

The universe.

Conspires to help you,

Man.

Just gets it done.

Just makes it,

Makes it happen.

Working through Street Colla in that case.

That's amazing,

Man.

So who are your biggest inspirate when you're making these music nowadays?

Like who are the inspirations to like,

You know,

To make this kind of music,

Who are the inspo's for it for the genre that I'm making right now?

Well,

Taz,

Funny enough,

I collab with him,

But he's actually an inspiration.

Like,

Yeah,

No,

I believe it.

Yeah.

I've been loving soul rising.

You guys know who that is?

Yeah.

Brandon.

He makes awesome music,

Man.

I actually,

That song float.

Yeah,

I know that song.

He has a song called missing you.

That's my favorite one.

The journey's dope.

Like,

Yeah,

His music is like a mixture of what I was,

I would say,

Like what trap and yoga music combined to make it.

I would,

I would agree.

Yeah,

I would agree.

And like,

If,

Like,

If,

Like,

If,

Like the,

The master yoga teacher and like Diplo clay created yoga music,

Like it's what's so rising is doing like,

It's like,

What's so rising is doing.

And then of course,

DJ dreads,

He's been doing this for so long.

He's got amazing songs.

We always,

I always draw inspiration from him because that's like tested,

Proven.

It was like that music is in so many yoga playlists.

Like I like that song sugar drop seven,

Seven,

I think by him.

It's like,

It's like a,

It's like a classic in the yoga community now,

You know,

And he has all these like bhakti beats,

Like that are really kind of like so good mantra based almost,

But how do you feel about that?

Based almost,

But have this like really just edge to them that kind of like sets it apart from other music that I like his music all the time.

Yeah,

I love it.

Especially when he collabs with Marty,

His wife,

You know,

Just,

You know,

Brian and I have both seen them live and gone to that experience.

Have you gone to,

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

At the South Florida new year's day thing,

I actually did yoga to his set.

It was pretty fun.

Amazing.

Yeah.

We've all,

So we've all experienced it.

So DJ dreads,

If you're listening out there,

You're going to be on our show because we're all plugging you right now.

Like all three of us are plugging you right now and we love you.

Right.

And so on my playlist,

It's momentology,

It's DJ Taz Rashid,

It's DJ dress.

It's Marty Nico.

I mean,

Yeah.

Shout out to a couple other,

Other producers that are making really good music.

Porangi.

I said that so white,

But it's poor on G.

That's how you would say it.

You made fun of me for saying it.

Like you just said it the first time you'd have it.

Porangi.

Porangi.

How to say his name when I met him.

You're the producer of this show.

You can just edit that part out.

You know,

There's no edits,

Man.

This is all live.

But if I did edit it,

This would be the time.

So he's making amazing music.

He does live music for yoga.

But it's,

It's,

It's,

It's more than like when you hear live music,

It's like,

It could be a DJ,

It could be a band.

He's like doing something so unique,

So incredibly,

Just beyond what I can even imagine doing live.

His setup,

He literally brings every instrument that he wants to play,

Which is like a flute,

Four or five drums,

Shakers,

Tambourines,

And then like a bunch of didgeridoos.

He brings like this huge,

Huge copper,

Like a bowl,

Like a singing bowl.

It's like you could literally stand in it.

It's so big.

And then like a cajon,

A chadango,

Which is like a South American ukulele type instrument.

And he has all this gear to loop all of his instruments.

So you would have like all these mics around around a stage and there's mics on each instrument.

And he has everything he controls with an iPad.

So he actually would play something like make a drum beat on his cajon,

Which is a drum that you sit on,

Loop it,

Right?

Then he would get his another drum and loop that.

And then he would get his chadango and play a little like a rhythm.

And then he would get his shakers and add some shakers.

Then he would add his voice because he's an amazing singer.

So literally at the end of a song,

There would be like between five and like 20 different elements that he would add and he can remove them and bring them back in.

So it's as if he's producing tracks live.

That's actually doing it in the moment.

It is incredible.

So where do we like,

Why isn't he teaching?

Why isn't he like playing around here so I can go to one of these experiences?

Yeah,

Actually,

No,

He lives in Sedona,

Brian.

What?

I'm gonna be up there.

I'm gonna go up there then.

What?

Yeah,

He does show us over there all the time.

They'll check him out.

I wonder if you said that was a chadango.

Chadango.

Chadango.

I wonder if it's good chadarango music.

Oh my God.

It is,

Dude.

Oh my gosh.

I'm just kidding.

I'm just thinking about chimichangas right now,

To be honest.

Dude.

You and chimichangas,

You enrolled tacos.

Oh,

That doesn't ever stop.

When you have yoga at 12 and tacos at two.

That meme is amazing,

By the way.

And that meme is incredible for the record.

Oh my gosh.

Well,

I know when.

.

.

Go ahead.

Go ahead,

Brian.

I just want to say one thing that Momentology and myself,

We have been doing this thing where we've been doing a lot of memes of you,

Pedro.

I'm aware.

We send them to you,

But it's a whole new different level.

Is there memes that are unseen by me?

I'm sure there are.

I'm sure.

We've only kept in between Brian and I because they're almost so vulgar that we're like,

We can't send these to Pedro.

You guys are terrible.

We can't send these.

You guys are non-yogic humans.

Listen,

Yoga doesn't have to mean staying totally non-funny,

Bro.

You know that.

Oh,

Don't worry.

We know about anybody.

I'm on the path to enlightenment.

I'm not there yet.

Is anybody though?

Is anybody though really?

I'm on the way,

Man.

True.

I'm on the way.

Wow.

I mean,

I think enlightenment can be a state of mind,

You know,

But at the same time,

Are we ever like there?

Because if you're searching for it,

It means you're not there.

Right?

Right.

Right.

Yes.

No,

It's so true.

I've been thinking about that question actually on enlightenment and let's go deep down the road.

I was just going to say,

Bro,

We're going down.

Here we go.

Strap on people.

I have been questioning just because you talked about purpose,

You know,

What's your purpose in life and you know,

What's missions and like,

Where are you inspired?

Right.

I watched a YouTube video of how to find your purpose and it gave me so much insight into so much clarity and it was a five minute YouTube video.

Can we,

Which we'll link that.

Okay.

Yeah,

We need that.

Who's it by?

But I was thinking about enlightenment in terms of like,

I want to strive for enlightenment,

But is,

And I remember going to a Dharma talk and the Dharma talk was on doubt,

Doubt.

And a lot of people doubt enlightenment.

Oh,

It's not,

It'll never happen or this or that.

They doubt it.

And just like anything that you do in life,

Sometimes you have that doubt so you never start.

And the guy that was leaving the Dharma talk said,

What happens if you gave up the doubt and you strive for enlightenment?

How awesome will the process be in like five years from now if you were just striving for enlightenment,

Like how much improvement would you do as a person taking off that doubt and just working in the process.

So it was just awesome that you said the process,

Bro.

That was deep down the rabbit hole.

But yeah,

Doubt and just going through the process.

Yeah.

Starting action.

Do something.

So yeah,

That's something I've been pondering too.

Like living in the society we live in in America,

Especially South Florida,

Pedro.

Anywhere though you have to have an ego,

Right?

You can't live in the world without one because like,

How would you plan to get food?

How would you make sure you have a shelter?

Like you got to say,

I need to live in a place where I'm not going to get rained on,

Stay in the sun.

I need to eat food.

You're saying,

I need this.

These are needs.

I need this.

So your ego has to exist,

Right?

So you can have like,

For me,

I can have like glimpses of these like moments where I am totally out of that and like back with the divine.

And then you always got to come back to it.

Like,

Okay,

Now I am hungry.

I got to eat.

Yeah,

It's true.

Yeah.

I need to get out of the sun because I've been sitting here for six hours.

That's hot.

I'm kidding.

That's hot.

You got a sunburn,

Bro.

I don't care how much SP.

I don't even care if you put it on.

You still got a sunburn in South Florida.

You need an aloe lotion sponsor.

Aloe Vera.

Where you at?

That would literally be like the ego coming back.

Like you need to take care of yourself.

You are a body.

You have to start thinking about the future because if you don't eat right now,

You're going to be really tired in an hour.

Or if you don't get out of the sun right now,

You're going to have a sunburn tomorrow.

So you have to come back in.

I think the point of all this,

Of what I've just talked about is doing everything mindfully.

So coming from a place where you're like,

I am going to really think is this going to like serve everyone here?

You know,

Is this going to help the greater good?

Is this going to serve value future?

Yeah.

Is it going to bring value to people?

Like me eating?

It will bring value to people because I'm not going to be a cranky bitch.

Because I get hangry sometimes,

Man.

I think we all do.

Yeah.

I think we all do,

Man.

I think we all do.

And when we're having,

You know,

Say if we're not having a good day or whatnot,

It's like we can't judge ourselves so hard and we can't take life so dang seriously.

We can.

I have to tell myself over and over again,

You know?

I think everyone has at one point.

And that's why,

Like the opposite,

Brian is like so true.

And you're like,

Don't take life so seriously because you've been in that opposite point,

Right?

Yeah,

Exactly.

Right.

That's so true,

Man.

That's so true.

So a few minutes ago,

We talked about like,

You know,

Like five years from now,

You know,

Kind of thing,

Enlightenment,

Going,

Striving towards things like Patrick,

Five years from now,

Where are you and what are you doing?

Main stage at Coachella on my side music project with Taz Rashid.

It's our dance music project.

Yes,

Dude.

Yes.

And then main stage at Wanderlust playing my music.

Dude.

Or Wanderlust like festival that comes up,

You know?

Right.

There might be a couple more.

I love it.

That's the live aspect,

Right?

Bro,

That's the live aspect.

And that like,

Born me to the soul.

Like hearing you say that because I can see that for you,

Man.

Like,

I mean,

I've known you long enough now.

I feel as if to know what you're going through,

What you're working on and what,

Like,

All the content you're putting out there and all our followers and listeners and users know about are going to know about you if they already don't.

And all of those things are 1 million percent attainable with the energy that you're emitting in this moment with the projects you're working on.

Absolutely.

100 percent.

So like,

Are you about Law of Attraction or the universe?

Like,

What's your thoughts on creating?

Yeah,

I don't think you can,

Like,

Spawn a Ferrari in your driveway if you think about it.

Like,

That's not what I believe.

I think what you put your energy into is what you're going to get back.

It's really simple.

If you're always working towards a goal,

Working towards something to achieve it,

It is Law of Attraction,

But it's actually really simple.

You're just chipping away at that stone.

You're going to get that Julius Caesar eventually.

You are.

You are.

Rolled tacos or not,

You're still getting abs,

Bro.

Well,

Maybe not.

Awkward pause.

Bro,

Have you seen these abs?

I eat a lot of rolled tacos.

Um,

I haven't seen those abs,

But if you want to take away the.

.

.

No,

I'm going to stop that.

Don't show your abs next time,

Bro.

Even if you have them,

I don't want to see them.

Too funny,

Man.

Pedro's going to see me next time,

Be like,

Dude,

Look,

Flex.

Love it,

Man.

All right,

One last question that I want to know about that where,

Who is somebody that you would love to collaborate with that you have yet to?

Like maybe like,

You know,

On the whale list,

Like the,

You know,

The top person that you think it would just be amazing to collaborate with person X.

I really thought about that.

Um,

I mean,

Honestly,

I had this,

Um,

I had this list a long time ago and I've actually knocked out a bunch of them on the list.

Congrats.

Thanks.

Really though,

I'm doing everything I want to do right now.

A collaboration just,

It takes a lot of time.

So like for me to be super deliberate about it,

Um,

Honestly,

No time.

Yeah.

Anything like if you can do some,

Like be with some,

It would be making a dope track for my new music project.

The new electronic music project with like Diplo.

Yes.

Going for the top right away.

They,

Why not?

It's you,

It can be anybody you want.

It can be anybody you want.

Because,

Because there's,

There's like a level cap to like,

Uh,

The yoga music scene.

Like you can only get so far in there.

Like I'm with,

I'm with you.

Yeah,

There's no like,

There is no,

That's why you're doing the dance project scene too.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Because they're tasting things.

The cap on the dance music project thing is like so much more main scale.

And it's not limitless.

There is a limit.

Like my mom doesn't listen to like electronic music,

But there's so much youth in this world that do so.

Exactly.

Not everyone's going to listen to the new Momentology and Taz album when it comes out.

Because they're like,

This might be slow and little,

Little more mindful than I like,

You know,

But if it's good dance music,

Everyone likes it.

Love it.

What's your mom listening to right now?

Probably the Moody blues.

The Moody blues.

Knights in white satin is her music.

She's got the,

She's got the classical music on for you still,

Bro.

No,

Dude.

She's waiting for you to come back.

So you guys asked me about my goal earlier about,

Um,

Like five year thing.

So that was like my live aspect.

I didn't,

I didn't touch on.

Yeah.

Give me the producer aspect.

Yeah.

The producer aspect is coming to a place where the music that I'm creating in both the electronic,

Which again,

Hasn't been released yet.

It's still TBD.

And the Momentology music project is they're both out of place where they're not going to be able to do that.

The project is they're both at a place where I'm going to say the Momentology Spotify page is like 500 K monthly listeners.

Boom.

And the electric one,

I'm not even going to put a limit on that shit.

No.

Millions.

Yeah.

Millions.

Yeah.

Trillions?

Trillions.

I don't even think anyone has trillions,

But I'll do it.

I don't think so.

You'll be the first.

I was just looking at,

Um,

Who has like monthly followers and,

Um,

Because I was trying to figure out who had the most,

It was like,

It was something like that.

And like Bieber had like 40,

000,

40 million a month,

You know,

Like just like crazy stuff.

You know,

If you think about that,

If each 40 million person or each one of the 40 million people plays one song,

Which chances are,

If you like Justin Bieber,

You're not gonna play one song,

Right?

Way more than that.

Spotify has got that 0.

006 cents thing.

That's 240 grand in a month.

Yeah.

Just on Spotify.

That's only one song per person.

So if everyone plays two songs,

That's a half a million dollars,

Bro.

Yeah.

Double it.

But then there's record label fees.

See that.

That's why I've never actually released with a record label.

You don't have a record label fee,

Bro.

Well,

Justin Bieber does,

Bro.

He's on a couple of record labels.

You might own the record labels,

Man.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you don't have to worry about that.

No,

No,

No.

I've never released any of my original stuff on a record label.

I've always done it like grassroots style.

So a couple of remixes I've done are like,

I have a couple of remixes on desert tracks.

Awesome.

Awesome.

Record label that the Desert Dwellers kind of created with a bunch of other artists that are just amazing.

And then I actually got a remix coming out on Jumpsuit Records,

Which is the Polish Ambassadors label.

Do you guys know the Polish Ambassador?

I do.

So he's got a label called Jumpsuit Records.

And I actually have two remixes coming out,

One on Scott and Ice's project and another one on you Equanimous' project.

Heck yeah.

Actually,

Taz and I do remixes together too.

We've done one on each one of those albums and I did a solo on too.

It sounds like you are absolutely killing it,

Bro.

Giving birth,

Man.

I'm not killing anything.

It's lit.

It is super lit,

Man.

Scorching.

Scorching.

Scorching like the Florida Heat,

Man.

My armpits are sweaty just thinking about.

My palms are sweaty.

These weak arms are heavy.

Mom's spaghetti.

Yeah.

So Patrick,

Thank you for making and taking the time to connect with us and to share your story,

Your insight on yoga,

Music,

And how you make magic happen because you are helping to change the world,

Man.

Raising the vibration with the energy that you're emitting through the music,

Man.

No joke.

Definitely,

And I know you've made some tunes that have made babies.

Uh huh.

My friend.

Brian,

Are you guys pregnant?

This is something that you know about because you're pregnant.

We are trying.

We are trying.

I'll let you know.

I'll let you know.

I'll let you know.

I'll let you know.

Momentology.

Bag of bonds.

If you've made a baby.

Bag of bonds.

No.

No,

Actually,

Probably the other day,

A buddy of mine,

I'm not going to name him.

He might listen to this.

He comes up to me.

He's like,

Yo,

I banged your music the other day.

Oh my God.

I was like,

What?

Oh my God.

Like that's the weirdest,

Weirdest thing I've ever heard.

You have made some babies with the music.

I don't think he actually made a child.

Alright,

Geez,

Louise.

If you're listening and you've made a child to Momentology's music,

Send us a message.

Actually,

Hold on.

That'll be an episode.

A friend of mine just sent me a Facebook message about two weeks ago and said that in the delivery room to their baby,

To their child,

He played my music.

That is amazing.

I think his baby was born to Momentology music.

And I'm like,

Wait,

What?

Are you serious?

Like,

First of all,

Do you even play music during labor?

Like,

And then why did you pick mine?

He's like,

Cause it's really soothing.

I'm like,

Dude.

Yep.

That's awesome.

Cause it's amazing.

My,

Uh,

My son was born with Above and Beyond.

Like,

Was it on your phone or did you bring a YouTube?

I had a Bluetooth speaker.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure if the Bluetooth speaker was working though.

It might've been just on my phone.

So it's amazing.

And so thank you so much for being here.

Momentology.

Thank you guys so much for having me on.

Really.

It's been an honor.

Thank you.

Appreciate you taking the time.

You are the man.

And I look forward to sharing all of this with our users.

We'll put all the information in the show notes.

Thanks for tuning in to this episode.

Stay tuned for more each and every week.

You're going to get some amazing content from us and we hope you have a blissful rest of your week signing off.

Brian,

Namaste,

My friend.

Namaste.

Bye.