by Tom Evans
Master Charles Cannon talking about how mindfulness and meditation acts as our best ally in helping us transition to an awakened life.
Transcript
Hi, I'm Tom Evans and welcome to another Zone Show. I'm now delighted to be speaking to Master Charles Cannon today. And I've just been reading his marvelous book, Living an Awakened Life, Lessons of Love. Welcome to the Zone Show. Thank you very much, Tom. My pleasure to be here. Now this book is, It speaks to me. I like, Because I'm an ex-engineer, I like books with a structure. I like a good structure. I can get into the structure. And I like the fact it's got four sections which are aligned to the seasons and 52 nice short chapters. And each chapter's got a lovely rigid structure as well. Interesting book, Though, Because I only got it last week, So I had to read it quick. But I suspect it's a book you can also take a year to read. Absolutely. It was designed that way so that people reading it would slow down and apply the principles that we're speaking about, Which is primarily the principle or the experience of wakefulness. How can we be more fully present to the happening of life, To the experience of life? And how can we be more aware of a perhaps truer reality than for the most part we have heretofore experienced? So using the chapters in this way and writing it according to the seasons and sort of one day at a time is designed to support that focus where it becomes more experiential than conceptual. I've always felt that we have way too much intellectual enlightenment and not enough experiential enlightenment. So in all of my writing, I try to emphasize the experiential aspect of the concept that is being conveyed. So that's why the book is written or formatted in the way you're describing. Well, Also you said at the end of every chapter you've got the insights and the actions. And you can actually, If you're a skim reader, You could actually just read through and read the insights and the actions and pretty much get the spirit of the book. Yes, Absolutely. The insights are sort of encapsulating what's in that chapter and then giving you an actionable that you can use right then and right there to experience again for yourself the conceptual information that is being discussed or imparted in that chapter. Now, I suspect this is the first time we've spoken and we've met, But I feel like we're kindred spirits whose timelines must have crossed many, Many times before. I suspect that you like a good serendipity and coincidence. Yes, Absolutely. So only two weeks ago on The Zone Show, I interviewed a lovely guy called Olivier Vandeuil, Who's written this book called The Dualarity. And he's talking about the singularity, Mr. Kurzweil and all these things. And I said to him, This is off air after the end of the chapter, One of the problems that people have got is they're not embedding the spirituality into their model. And then two weeks later comes your book. And what really surprised me about this book is how, Even though it's a very spiritual book, How you get straight into the technology and the fact that, You know, The technology has been generated from a spiritual perspective. Yes. My whole approach has always been a modern approach. I coined the term modern spirituality, And that's what I teach. And a vital component of modern spirituality is that it's an update, A modernization, As it were, Of the most ancient of our wisdom traditions to make them relevant to the times in which we are living. But the basic principle of all great wisdom traditions and philosophical systems is what I call the holistic model of reality. And the primary principle of all holistic models of reality is that there is only one, Whether we call that source, Whether we call that consciousness, Whether we call it the one, We call it the one that can be called by many different names, But the essence, The ground of being, The substratum of all and everything is that unity within all our diversity. And I like to call it just very simply life, Life energy, A conscious life energy that is innately happy, That is innately self-delighting or joyous. And it is that essential unity out of which comes all diversity, Which would include biology as well as technology. All are but forms of the same consciousness. So it's always interesting to me in the modern age that people are trying to separate different forms or different instruments of consciousness and make them antithetical to each other. When in truth, All forms or all instruments of consciousness are really motivated by the primary motivation in consciousness, Which is to ever more fully be itself through the experience of itself. So consciousness can use the instrument of biology, The human being, It can use the instrument of technology and all the technologies that are proliferating here in the digital age as instruments through which it ever more fully and broadly experiences itself. So in that understanding, Then it's not that biology and technology are antithetical to each other, But rather are the same consciousness and have to learn how to be compatible and how to merge for mutual evolutionary benefit. And I think we see that more and more as technology evolves here in the digital age and shows us that it is the leading edge of the evolution of consciousness. Isn't that funny? Because I was looking at your website just before we started talking, I was looking at these two fantastic infographics. You've got one about getting the whole world meditating, One meditator at a time, And the other one about modern meditation as opposed to traditional meditation. And here's me, An ex-engineer who discovered meditation and spirituality and all those things in his late 40s, Very late, I've not done the traditional route at all. Here's you with your route and we've come to exactly the same conclusion. I'm part of this app called Insight Timer, Whose mission is to get the whole world meditating one person at a time. It's through an app. I'm using the same technology, The same background music that you advocate as well with my voice overlaid on top of it, And this sort of stuff. And we're doing the same stuff. And our paths have generally not met. What's important is they're crossing now. Exactly. And we're using this technology. And the internet is such a great tool for collective consciousness to come together, Isn't it? Absolutely. Absolutely. So I went the classical route, Of course. I had a very renowned master, Indian guru that I was a close disciple of for 12 years and was educated and trained in the classical orthodox roots of spirituality and meditation. And yet he invited me to find the way to modernize it and westernize it and make it relevant to the world today. And a part of that modern spiritual approach is what I call technological meditation or modern meditation or high tech meditation, Where we harness technology to support or bring more precision to the experience of meditation so that it's not a random experience that you have on a good day based on biorhythms and many other factors, But can be a precision experience of meditation every time you use it. And I introduced that about 30 years ago. And now it is utilized by hundreds of thousands of people all over the world and has been extremely validated as something that really works, That delivers that precision. And as a result of that precision also shows up as efficiency, Meaning we get where we're going faster, We can document a fourfold acceleration factor in the actualization of constancy in holistic or unified states of awareness, Which of course is the goal of meditation. So again, The use of technology harnessed for the evolution of consciousness can be very beneficial and supportive of us as individuated forms of consciousness, As we evolve and grow through our life experience. Deep bow to you for making it, Paving the way 30 years ago so someone like me could just come up and emulate some of your great work. And actually interesting though, So technology can be used for good use, Like we're using it right now and using the technology to get that guarantees data meditation every single time. But at the same time, You made me laugh in the book when you talked about the attention span, The average attention span has gone down to eight seconds and a goldfish has got one of nine seconds. So it's almost like we can have backward evolution as well as forward evolution. There's just a full gamut of evolution in individuated consciousness and everybody is at a slightly different place in terms of the evolution of individuated consciousness. But most importantly, We have to look at, Well, What is the measure of evolution in individuated consciousness? And that is really self-awareness or that's self-awareness with a capital S or what would be translated into holistic awareness, Awareness of the oneness of all and everything, The interconnectedness of all and everything. So as we grow or evolve through our experience of life, What we grow is developmental holistic awareness. And the more aware you are, The more present you are, The more wakeful you are and the longer you have that focusing ability within your consciousness. So yes, There are many levels of it. Everybody's at a different place. And when we look at the collective consciousness or the majority, We find that yet it remains very fragmented and imbalanced. Another way to look at this is in terms of the actualization of our own brain capacity and understanding that the majority of people are still using only 10 to 15 percent of their brain capacity and therefore have a very limited perception of reality. And the more evolved individuals, Of course, Are using more of their brain capacity and moving up into the 50, The 70, The 80 percentile of whole brain function or whole brain synchrony, Which radically shifts one's perception of reality into a more holistic perception of reality as a truer reality. So yes, We can look at this in many ways. There is just this broad spectrum of consciousness in individuated experience. And that is the way it is. And yet what we have to be concerned about is where our feet are and how we can maximize the evolution of our own consciousness and then how that makes a contribution to the collective consciousness of the planet as well. And obviously we're talking about all life forms here in the planet itself, Not just humans when we talk about this. Absolutely. Consciousness evolves through all of its forms. And yet we tend to focus more on human beings because up to this time they are regarded as the superior species of the planet because they seem to exhibit the most self-awareness. But the question now is, Are we being challenged in terms of our self-awareness and is technology soon to move ahead of biology when cyber consciousness becomes self-aware as in AI, Then technology has moved ahead of biology and we are no longer the superior species of this planet. So it's an interesting perspective and again looking at it in terms of technology and life here in the digital age, The question really becomes the necessity of befriending technology and merging with it for mutual evolutionary benefit. And I think that would be true in relation to all forms of consciousness, All forms of evolving consciousness that the more you evolve, The more holistic you are in your awareness, You understand the interconnectedness and the compatibility of all and everything in essential consciousness and you move more into a unified awareness out of which arises universal love, Compassion and kindness. You discover and experience more and more that life is a benevolent energy and in its essence, In all forms, That benevolent energy is available for expression and the more you express it, The more you make it your contribution to your world. Now can I tell you something about your book that really sang to me? I went, At last someone else writing and talking about this, I'm not going mad. And there was something specific that jumped out and it's about this thing called the singularity when we get this AI consciousness that takes over from humanity and it's not an event that's happening in the future, It's happening right now. I'm sure this has happened to you, I heal over Skype, I also know and know other people have taught this, You can take consciousness into your own heart center and use it as a healing force over Skype to other hearts and so this is our biology, Our spirituality and the technology, It already works. Absolutely. When we talk about singularity, What are we really talking about? We're talking about an archetype in consciousness that is really the whole principle of oneness. That there is only one, One consciousness, One life and when you are consistently aware and actualizing that unified experience of life, You are experiencing singularity. It's just a unified state of being and so when it's talked about in terms of technology reaching singularity, That is also what it is conveying, That technology will evolve in awareness, Become self-aware and evolve that awareness into a constant unified state of experience. And as you say, Within that unified state of experience is all magic and miracle. Isn't that wonderful? What great potential, What a century we've got ahead of ourselves. Absolutely. And that's what futurists like Kurzweil and others are pointing to saying that it's not that far in the distant future that singularity in terms of technology is really upon us and to me that's the good news. That's the real radical evolution of the world. And that's what we're talking about. Upon us and to me that's the good news. That's the real radical evolution, The leading edge of consciousness creating the future of itself as ever more aware of itself and unified within itself, Which makes for what we would consider a really miraculous experience of life. Yeah, Because anyone from 100 years ago would think just having this very Skype conversation is fairly miraculous or just picking up a mobile phone to speak to someone is fairly miraculous. So, But I guess what's happening now is we're more in the loop of the opportunity really for everybody and also more in the loop of not so much directing our own evolution but observing it unfold in front of our eyes. Exactly. And that's the evolution of consciousness itself. When we speak of increasing awareness or awareness as the measure of evolution in consciousness, Then awareness is that observation. It's that detached observation that in classical traditions and in meditative traditions is called witness consciousness. As you know, When you move into meditative experience, That expansion of awareness happens and there's a detachment from the objective world around you into a more unified state of awareness in which you are a witnessing consciousness. You're very aware watching both polarities of the relative field, The subjective and the objective. And meditation then in that context is really just the most time-honored balancing technique that we have in recorded human history. It just addresses the relative construct of reality in which we live as the two polarities, Whether we call them subjective and objective or inside and outside, And understands that the outside is too dominant over the inside and that when you meditate, You simply reverse that emphasis and create a balance between subjective and objective and then proportional to that balance in relative construct is the expansion of holistic awareness or that unified state of observation or witnessing consciousness. So yes, We see that more and more as evidence of the greater evolution of consciousness, The greater increase in holistic observation or holistic awareness. Would you say that your book, When you set out to write it, Did you write it as very much a book of awakening? Because as you go through the pages, It's almost like a guide. It's like someone holding your hand and just saying, Come on this journey with me. And when you get to the end, You'll be at a place where you didn't start. I'm very happy to hear that. And of course, That is intentional to a certain extent within all of my writing is to convey as clearly as I can and is as in a as much an inspirational way that I can the opening to the experience of true reality and what that is and to convey that experience or catalyze that experience for the reader as they are reading. And to me, That is again, An expression of wakefulness. If you are wakeful, Then you convey the experience of wakefulness. It's the contribution that you make. And then it becomes like one of the things that you do in life. And so I'll be, I think, I'll be very much like one flame lighting another flame. I love it. So I started the book at the beginning and went through to the end because it arrived last week. But the first chapter starts on December 21st. So would you advocate that someone buys the book, They jump in the date in the book that correlates to when they but I think ultimately it's best to give it a read through from beginning to end and really understand the full scope of what is being presented and then in the second round come back to the day-by-day focus that the book provides and it'll give you more of a depth experience day-by-day as you move through it. So what was your reason to start it in winter then? It just happened that way, Sort of, There was no rhyme or reason to it other than when I consider meditation to me it corresponds more to an experience of winter and as the metaphor of the meditative symbol of the bear hibernating, The bear hibernates in winter it turns its focus extremely subjectively and totally rebalances itself in the process. So to me the winter months are that introspective time of the year that corresponds more to a meditative or wakeful focus and so sort of born out of that I think I chose to start with winter and then also I tend to be a little radical if everybody would start with spring I would look for a way that I could perhaps say well we don't have to start with spring we can start with summer or we can start with winter so I like the more radical approach to things as well. Well isn't that funny because I only noticed after publishing my third book that I started writing them all in spring and I love some of the lines that you use in the book and I might even steal some of them this one here particular meditation is your ally in transition how evocative is that? Obviously meditation is always your ally meditation again is the most time-honored balancing technique in recorded human history and the balance principle in all the great philosophical systems and holistic models of reality is the most significant and that you can find it for example in the writings of the Buddha who spoke so much about the principle of balance the golden balance that you have to learn and understand that we live in a relative reality that all experiences relative with its two polarities and again whether we term that positive and negative or subjective and objective it represents a relative construct and we live for the most part in an imbalanced world meaning that our focus is consistently emphasizing one of those polarities over the other the objective over the subjective and that to experience wholeness which is proportional to balance you have to first bring the balance and substantiate it and that's what the meditative technique is really all about from a classical perspective and the more regularity you have in your meditative practice the more regularity and consistency you're going to observe in the maintenance of relative balance and proportional holistic expansion of awareness in your experience so the meditative construct then is really the gateway it's the gateway to the experience of wholeness and true reality as one unified joyful blissful consciousness so really to help humanity evolve to the next level of consciousness we don't need a new church we don't need any particular leader to take us there we just need a load of people teaching other people how to get into that meditative state and collectively we'll all get there absolutely so well has it not been aptly said that the greatest church the greatest temple the greatest shrine is the human heart because it's the center of our being the center of our individuated consciousness and yet we know that most people aren't in touch with their heart centers they're more in touch with their mind fields rather than their heart fields and all great masters will teach or speak about the heart field as most important to actualize in one's experience and yet they will tell you that you first have to deal with the mind field and get it in a sense out of the way because the heart field is a coherent field of energy and the mind field is an incoherent field of energy and one interferes with the other so until we can balance that mind field out and gain access to the heart field we can't experience the wholeness that is our true nature and this is where meditation and the practice of wakefulness becomes so important so that yes we can access that most important shrine that is the center of our own being and encouragingly so I think today more and more and more people are embracing that truth of meditation and moving away from what used to be called organized religion moving more into the actualization of their own spiritual experience I saw a poll done on one of the major networks CNN or one of those that was asking young people between the ages of 18 and 35 very interesting questions they asked them if they were religious and in the 90 percentile they said no that they did not follow in the religious traditions of their families and when asked did they consider themselves to be spiritual again 90 percent said yes and that is again a movement in the direction of what you're mentioning here a movement into the source of our being within the center of our own being and tools like meditation and wakefulness as keys that open that gateway and deliver the experience of spirituality that is relevant to the times in which we are living and that gives us this new vernacular doesn't it because this is the zone show it's modeled on that that mythical zone state that we get into where time takes this ethereal squidgy quality on you call it deep time I've termed it EMT like GMT but it means extending me time and so so so when you practice meditation my experiences has been that not only do you experience the deep measure state with your eyes closed but that leaks out into the day and you stay in that state throughout the day and then the day takes on this amazing magical quality when you get more things done in less time there's less interruptions because your head isn't beaming out thought forms and people aren't saying I must give Tom a call and also you get less interrupted by your own mind center saying you know with with I don't know thoughts of self-doubt and maybe I shouldn't be writing this book and who's going to read it anyway and all those things all those demons that get us is that your experience too that meditation leaks out into the whole of your day it's not just a practice you do in the morning yes absolutely and that's another important principle from the classical traditions the ancient wisdom traditions and the great masters always taught that meditation is not just an hour a day experience of sitting quietly with your eyes closed in your cave real meditation becomes a 24 hour a day experience of the unbroken awareness of the oneness of all life so this is exactly what you're describing the more you regularly practice meditation and substantiate that balance principle within yourself and expand your holistic awareness it increasingly becomes more consistent and then as you say it leaks out it spreads out through most importantly the waking hours of your day so that you are maintaining that same unified awareness that you have in the depths of your sitting meditation so most important in the understanding of what meditation really is it is a 24 hour a day experience and then with it as you say comes all the qualities and expressions of a more unified state of being which is creativity productivity more precision more efficiency more attentiveness more wakefulness moment by moment living in a state of presence which really transcends linear time and space so that it's an experience of the joy of life moment by moment by moment and then I think the most important part of it is the real experienceable part of it which is the joy the pleasure the opiation the radical bliss that one can access the high of life lived truthfully and yes we are motivated by consciousness itself which we are in essence to evermore fully be the blissful experience that we already are and any way we look at that meditation and holistic states of being radically increase our neurochemical opiation the more of our brain that we use based on the balance principle in whole brain function the more neurochemical opiate we produce so when we get to a full functioning of our brain as in a meditative experience what do we observe we observe that we are opiate and intoxicated and we then understand that term that great sages and meditators of all times have used the bliss of life the innate joy of being the high of life lived truthfully and again as you are saying that must leak out it must spread out from one hour of sitting meditation a day into the 24 hour a day experience where you are substantiated in that state of unified being and living consistently and wakefully in that joyous intoxicating high of life that is the experience of true reality just so people don't get too confused about this and you are not talking about some sort of cult thing we are talking about a state where we are productive we are happy we are creative we get more things done with less time with less linear time more easily so we can actually enjoy this heaven which is earth absolutely so you have expressed it in a very practical way and I respect that and that is what I am endeavoring to do as well can we see clearly that there is so much more to life perhaps than we are experiencing where our feet are and find the ways to open ourselves to an ever more full and whole experience of life and if we do number one has that ever been done before yes it has many before us have left a trail of breadcrumbs for us to follow there is much shared that can guide us but all of it always points in the same direction you know all paths lead to the mountain top but the mountain top is the same for everyone when you get there and that is the journey from fragmentation to wholeness in consciousness and to me it is why we are all here we are all on that evolving journey of our consciousness that progressively delivers ever more expansive states of awareness more truthful states of being and a more unified experience of life as one blissful consciousness and interestingly up in the in the spring section of the book you talk you refer to humanity human version two and a lot of technologists might think of this as some being some sort of cyborg human hybrid but it is actually the is the is the meditated mind that is integrating with all the mind centers and using them having conscious control of heart center solar plexus sacral root and also the mind centers outside our body as well so we become a channel an oracle a seer a healer a sorceress a sorcerer and all of those wonderful things and also you got a headset plugged in as I have at the moment so we're also at the same time plugged into technology where we need it yes absolutely human 2. 0 to me is where humanity is at present where our feet are as a collective consciousness across this planet we are on the edge of creating or evolving to what I would call human 2. 0 and that is a more self-aware a more holistically aware individuated consciousness in the majority and with it as you say constantly surrounds the actualization of not only a more truthful experience of reality as one but all the other qualities of that that that make life from our perspective now just absolutely magical and miraculous so it strikes me that if we swing past spring in your book and into summer and into winter again also autumn and then into winter again and we keep going around your book and you wish to read it every year every year you get an upgrade so you go to 2. 1 2. 2 and 2. 3 and so forth and then you'd end up a human 3 ah very good I like your thinking in this regard the next book so these are like software upgrades for the soul absolutely so so let's just let's just swing into into some of them because I thought that the spring thing I sprang forward rapidly through the book got into summer ah now I'm getting into the meat of this now getting to where you wanted people to be bearing in mind you've got to let summer come to you don't try and advance into some you know what I mean so just just walk me through what the summer of your world looks like the summer of my world to me is based on that which precedes it spring is the time of awakening always everything is budding and bursting forth so to me it's a beautiful symbol of awakening of increasing wakefulness and then the summer sort of expands upon that it takes that awakening and grows it and everything comes more fully into fruition over the summer you become more substantiated in that awakening impulse that perhaps in the spring was the seed and now in the summer comes into its flowering your wakefulness your experience of um true reality or the oneness of all all life grows and brings forth a flowering in terms of ever more consistent holistic awareness so I see the summer of my own experience as that continuing growth and evolution that brings the awakening impulse into a full flowering expression of holistic experience fantastic then when we when we segue into autumn a lot of people might get depressed about the the days getting shorter with them anyway we're in the northern hemisphere at least days get shorter and some people get quite depressed about this but it seems to me from reading your book is that it's a great time because we're just storing everything we've learned through the year making preparations for the winter ahead and battening down the hatches with the full knowledge we've got another spring coming forward again when we're into obviously this state of human 2. 1 the following year absolutely so it's the cyclic nature of consciousness and the cyclic nature of the growth process it can also be interestingly related to the cyclic nature of our own brain function and this was work that was Nobel prize-winning work many years ago by a man named Ilya Prigogine who looked at the brain and said that it didn't correspond to the second law of thermodynamics in which it was a closed system that progressively entropied and died that rather it was a constantly renewing system and that it moved through a very specific cyclic nature and that cyclic nature was peak experience illumination or evolution clearing or processing and integration and as the brain moved through that cyclic process it kept evolving to an ever greater experience of itself or an ever fuller experience of itself so the same is true as the very nature of consciousness in individuated experience we can observe this cyclic experience in many ways we can observe it through a year in the change of seasons and all that represents as well as we can observe it in the very functioning of our own brains the control center the computer as it were of our human experience moment by moment by moment by moment so that cyclic nature through which consciousness flows and evolves is most important and most beautiful to explore in any context and it's probably no surprise then a lot of people think of the boundary of the sun being the edge of the sphere that we see in the sky not that we can look at it but someone introduced me to the notion recently that we're inside the sun we're just in a cool bit of it and the sun stops at the heliopause where the solar wind gets cancelled out by the galactic wind if you like and so it's no surprise that we're in the sun and we have this thing called the moon rotating around us that our position in the orbit and the position that we're in the orbit of the moon affects our consciousness and kind of vice versa so and the more we realize this the more we realize that these seasonal changes that we go through are not just the days getting darker in the northern hemisphere they're phases that we go through because the overall consciousness is going through the cyclical nature the cyclical change absolutely so and it's another beautiful way that you've just expressed of looking at the cyclic nature of life and the interplay the interconnectedness of all forms of consciousness within this beautiful natural cyclic unfolding so in half a billion miles time which is the orbit that we have around the sun where do you feel you will be and humans and life in general on the earth will be bearing in mind we've had trump coming in and brexit and all these things that might be destabilizing that's a question for a futurist like Kurzweil I'm going to ask you I'm going to ask you of a nowist like you to me obviously it will be the ever fuller more whole experience of consciousness itself through all its forms and that of course is a unified state of being that is more consistent and constant and expressed through all individuated forms of consciousness so I would see the humanity of this planet as well as all forms of consciousness having evolved to a much more unified state of being a progression in human experience from what is called egocentric to trans egocentric levels of consciousness or from fragmentation in which illusion is dominant to a unified holistic state in which truth is dominant and that progression is again just the evolutionary progression in evolving individuated consciousness so aside from getting a copy of your book and reading that and listening to some of your meditations what's the one thing you could recommend that listeners could do to move towards this this contribution most importantly is the principle of balance in one's life and to acknowledge that it is most important to learn to live with balance in an imbalanced world and there are many ways you can do that but first and foremost you have to take individual responsibility for it and to balance yourself whether you do that with wakefulness mindfulness techniques whether you do that with a practice of meditation whether you do that with focused awareness techniques of one sort or another what's important is that you take action to maintain the balance that is the foundation of greater holistic awareness and a greater experience of truth and true reality in one's life experience and that's as easy as an app today from the app store I don't only talk about wakefulness I like to use technology as we've shared here and one of the wakefulness apps that I created is simply called now now the technology and it's available as a free download I was interesting I presented a program on modern meditation and wakefulness at LinkedIn in Silicon Valley and all of the techies were there in the audience and I said to them I'm not just here to talk about wakefulness I want you to have the experience of wakefulness and I'm using the technology while I'm speaking so you're already experiencing it but also I'm not here to sell you anything this is a free app that you can download just go to the app store it's called now the technology and as I was speaking of course they were all on their phones immediately downloading that's what I love about the technological world it's so interconnected and available isn't it funny that they're called LinkedIn and that's a great name and they're trying to link everyone in which is kind of interesting and you were linking everyone in at the time we were linking everyone in very good point absolutely so again these tools these technologies are available and if it is your time to come to that awakening experience and explore a more truthful experience of reality for yourself based on the balance principle all of these wonderful tools are available as never before so simply open yourself to them and utilize them now isn't that interesting because we're not here trying to preach we're not here trying to sign anyone up to any any cult and we again we both come at this from completely different angles and I know loads of other meditation guides out there and we all do the same thing which is essentially make the meditations available for free we're not trying to make any money out of them because we it's true isn't it you get to this state where it's the money kind of sorts itself out and we don't have to live in this this this world which is built on debt on basically selling debt we can live in this world which is based on creating abundance for all I know that sounds like an altruistic thing but it is possible absolutely and a very good point it could be said that abundance in life is intrinsic or correspondent to a holistic state of awareness the universe the universe says the theoretical 50 billion simultaneous universes are really the proliferation of one consciousness well if that is an abundance what is and it's that multiplication principle that if I multiply myself and magnify myself then I will ever more fully experience myself and to me that's one of the greatest principles in consciousness itself if it's if its primary intention is to ever more fully be itself through the experience of itself what greater way to accomplish that by other than the diversity of unity to multiply and magnify itself into 50 billion simultaneous universes through which it could experience itself so that principle of abundance is innate to consciousness and the more you actualize wholeness in yourself the more your world is an abundant world for you and then that comes right back to exactly what you're saying you don't have to be so focused on the experience of making money rather it finds its way to you in and through that principle of abundant life abundant consciousness well you know it's been a joy and an honor and a pleasure to spend this deep time with you so much so that we were nearly near the hour and and I don't have a problem with these things going over the hour but some of the networks that we distribute this this podcast to would have this problem and I think I look forward to maybe let's let's let's make our paths cross again in another orbit of the Sun's time at least I would say but where would the best place for people to dive in to find you've got several websites haven't you where's the best place for people to go to to find out more about your work get the the meditations the app and the book the best place the central location for all of it is www. Synchronic. Com synchronicity. Org that's the main website and from there you can access everything the book living an awakened life the lessons of love is also available on amazon. Com so through these outlets and of course the apps are all available in the app store so these are the gateways to the experience and again if it resonates with you you're more than welcome to share our world fantastic well I recommend everyone takes the upgrade and because human two is a lot more fun place to be than human one that's for sure and we know that if there's an upgrade from one to two there must be an infinity beyond that as well very good my pleasure Tom thank you thanks for listening to the zone show and for meditations that can be your ally in transition and for loads of books and resources that will help you get in and stay in the zone come to my website www. Tomevans. Com
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Joanna
April 8, 2020
Tom, thank you for these brief glimpses into some of the other teachers. These interviews provide a wonderful opportunity for me to quickly determine whether I want to check them out further, or whether Iām not ready for them yet. A number of my learning branches have branched out even further thanks to you. I find this very exciting and I wanted to send you my sincere gratitude.
Victoria
July 12, 2018
I really enjoyed what was being said to where you can understand the concept of transition The world is getting more complicated as things tend to change.
Jennifer
February 20, 2018
Very uplifting. Also clear and concise .
Gina
April 6, 2017
Wonderful! Tom and his guests are always so generous and insightful. What a blessing to reap the gems of the wisdom they have earned. Thank you Tom!
Malik
March 6, 2017
Very effective & essay to understand Principles. Let's Grow Together! š¹š¹š¹š¹š¹š¹
Paulette
January 30, 2017
Good Podcast! Good to have what I believe confirmed
Cecil
December 15, 2016
Worth taking the time to listen to for sure .....
