They are doing it for the others who are still in the dream.
No?
They are helping others who are still in the dream.
I have woken up.
I am helping Shailaja wake up.
Wake up Shailaja.
Wake up.
But Shailaja is still enjoying the dream.
No,
Little bit more.
And I want to do this in my dream.
I want to do this.
I said,
Okay,
Let's play.
My intention in the end is through the play that you wake up.
That is the intention of a true guru.
There are many gurus out there who don't want to do that because whatever,
They are getting money from you being in the dream.
So they are making money or they are getting name and fame from you being in the dream.
So they let you be in the dream.
There are gurus and teachers like that also.
Yes?
So we are keeping those aside.
We are talking about the true ones.
The truly enlightened people.
I am not even taking names.
I am not even saying Swami Vivekananda.
I am just saying the truly enlightened one.
He does not have to do anything really.
But why does he do?
He says,
I woke up.
Oh my God.
And this other person is suffering because he is in the dream and he thinks the tiger is real.
And he is sweating and he is panting and he is struggling and I want to wake him up.
Out of compassion,
The truly enlightened one wants to help wake up the other person.
But the other person says,
I want to play a little while more and you play this game with me.
So he plays that game with him with this intention that at the end of the game,
You will wake up.
That is the reason truly enlightened people went into the world and started teaching.
There is no other real intention.
Not for money,
Not for name,
Not for fame.
If you see these other things come in,
That means there is a craving.
That means they themselves are not completely out of the dream.
Yeah?
Bhagwan and Ramana used to feel,
He didn't see any others.
So then who is he helping?
Right?
He is helping.
Then that person is helping themselves only.
Yes.
Now understand this.
It's not that Bhagwan Ramana did not see other bodies.
He sees them but he does not perceive them the way we perceive them.
We perceive them as matter with mind and with consciousness inside.
That is the wrong understanding and that is why we say these two people are not one.
These are two.
Bhagwan saw that everybody is in a pool of consciousness.
They are not individuals.
There is just one big pool of knowingness or consciousness or Brahman or Atma.
Word does not matter.
He interchanged so many words many times.
But he was very clear that they are not individuals.
There is just this one,
This oneness.
And he helped others recognize that when you feel individual,
You feel separate,
Why is it?
Because you say I,
You think I,
You feel I.
So what is this big I?
Go inside and find the I.
And then you start the inquiry and then you realize,
Oh,
I does not exist only.
What a folly!
What a folly!
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