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How Do I Know It Is Not My Mind Tricking Me Into Feeling That It Is The Witness?

by Ekta Bathija

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Listen to Ektaji's answers to different questions related to Advaita (non-duality). These teachings are aimed at experiential understanding of the Truth viz. the dissolution of the Subject and Object relationship.

MindAdvaitaNon DualityExperiential UnderstandingTruthDissolutionEgoSelf InquiryConsciousnessEgo Vs KnowerInner ExperimentsWitnessingKnowledgeConsciousness Reflection

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Music Chime So there is a knower and then there is this ego that also has this sense of being alive,

Sense of being conscious and this ego can also create a black screen to show you that I am the knower.

Now there is a very subtle difference between the black screen created by the ego and the knower.

What will be the difference tell me?

No idea will be.

No,

No.

Knower,

Knower ke quality kya hogi?

Even if just theoretically you think.

Keep experience aside.

Theoretically tell me.

What is the quality of ego and what is the quality of the knowingness or the field of awareness?

Knower will not be attached to any whatever is happening but ego at some level it will be attached.

Yes,

Correct and the first attachment that the ego will have,

The ego will say I.

I am the grower.

I am the knower.

This knowingness field does not talk,

Does not speak,

It is quiet.

Do you understand the difference?

Yes.

Now this is a very delicate inner experiment that you have to do.

Iktah cannot go into Kush and tell Kush okay this one who is poor,

This was the ego and this behind is the knower.

Kush has to do that work.

Get it?

I can be a GPS but you will have to do the driving inside.

So this is your homework.

The homework is recognized that there is this I.

First there is an I sense.

This I am talking to Didi.

There is an I sense.

That also is knowing.

That is the aspect of the mind that is knowing that I Kush am speaking to Didi.

But this I-ness has a heaviness to it,

A sense of attachment and there is the knower behind the I-ness.

Yes,

This is the subtle difference that we have to figure out.

This I is actually seeming very similar to the knower because he has the power from the knower.

The knower is like the sun.

Sun always throws out its light.

So it is throwing out its consciousness,

This feeling of consciousness,

That feeling of I am alive.

Thoughts are alive.

Feelings are alive.

They have an energy of their own.

How does that happen?

Because this is throwing its reflected light on the I,

On the ego.

Yes,

Then the ego starts feeling as if I am alive.

Really the ego is just an I thought.

It is not continuous.

It is an I thought that comes up and says,

Oh,

I am the knower she's talking about.

Okay.

It's talking to you.

It's giving you that sense of I.

But it goes away and then another thought comes up.

There is a discontinuity in ego.

But this knowing this is always there.

It's like the background.

Okay.

So this is a very subtle kind of figuring out that you have to do inside.

So you start the homework before the others do.

Makes sense.

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Ekta BathijaSt. George, USA

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