Laurene Hope discusses Bpd and Therapeutic community

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And guys,

I'm about to try something technically that I should have learned a long time ago.

But this is going to be new because we do have three clients that are not in this country,

But we're actually listened to in 26 countries.

And I'm about to interview Lauren Hope.

And she's in the UK right now.

So I rigged this up.

Let's see if this works.

Hold on.

Lauren,

Are you on the air?

I am.

Oh,

I did it.

I did it.

All right.

We're good.

Okay.

Terrific.

So hey,

By the way,

Guys,

Lauren Hope is the founder of Moving on Theatre.

And the website is moving on theatre.

Co.

Uk.

Hey,

Lauren,

How you doing today?

I'm doing really well.

Thank you.

Can you can the weather which is miserable?

Well,

Miserable to you guys over there is rain,

Right?

Sorry,

I didn't hear that.

Over there.

I mean,

When you say the weather,

The weather is miserable.

It's it's rainy,

Right?

Yeah,

Gotcha.

Cold and rainy.

Not very nice.

Not very nice.

So okay,

Great.

I'm glad you can hear me.

So Lauren,

Tell me a little bit about what you found it here.

This is a Moving on Theatre.

Tell me what you do over there with that what this is about.

Okay,

I found it moving on theatre 2012.

Does that as you know,

I had recovered from borderline personality disorder.

I came out of therapy and I decided that it was time to form a theatre company that would tour with particularly shows about artists like Ida Piaf,

Maria Kala,

Who were very mentally ill and depressed.

And at the end of my shows,

I could get up and talk about my recovery,

Which I was very lucky compared to those and also a way to be able to express my talents on the stage and do the breakdowns on the stage,

Rather than doing them in life.

So that's basically it in a nutshell.

Gotcha.

Now explain may not know what exactly is borderline personality disorder.

Okay,

Well,

The way I like to explain it,

It's actually the new name is complex needs disorder.

And the way I like to explain it is you know,

When you I don't know if you have wall work,

Because yeah,

We do work with the goal.

And you could choose your suite,

Like a lava little bit of this a little bit of that,

Right?

To me,

Borderline personality disorder is a whole combination of conditions,

Mental illness,

Like depression,

Panic attacks,

A little bit of skip cells,

A little bit of OCD.

And when you're very,

Very stressed out,

You have all these personalities in you also from people that you grew up with.

And when you're very stressed out,

Then they can,

Something takes over,

As the personalities can take over.

And it's really good when you're an actor.

Because of course,

You can go on the stage and you can act and create amazing characters.

But it's not very good when you're walking around day to day life.

These characters can really take over your life.

And these personalities can take over your life.

So what you have to do is you have to learn how to balance everything out,

And how to be able to manage the condition.

And that's what I learned when I was in the therapeutic community.

But going on the stage for me,

Helps to keep them all happy.

You can play,

While I can get rid of my all the aggression and emotions on stage,

And stay sane and stay balanced.

So it's really important to use your creativity.

That's you know,

I think that's remarkable,

Because what you've done is you've taken something that would sideline a lot of people and would not be conducive to being such a successful professional,

Which you are,

And you've taken this challenge,

And you've made it yours,

And you've made it you've made it better.

And that's remarkable.

Thank you.

When you say successful professional,

I have had five star reviews and I've toured all over the country.

I read that.

Yeah,

Mainly with Yeah,

Yeah.

But the problem is that it is difficult to get work.

In this country,

And particularly,

I found that it's very,

Very difficult to get on the media,

And even get into theaters,

Because they're so obsessed with fame and celebrity.

So,

You know,

So when you say successful,

To the extent that I have done a lot of stuff,

I haven't been able to move on very much.

So I'm kind of stepping back a little bit and looking at everything at the moment of how I'm going to move on with it.

And one of the things is I'm bringing in musicians live musicians into the show.

And I've also started running a TV station.

So because I felt if you can get on the media,

Great,

You're on.

There you go.

And I should I should tell my audience,

Which is really cool is that at the end of every show,

You go up there and you speak to the audience about this borderline personality disorder and how you were healed through everything other than medication.

Why were you so against medication?

Why was I what sorry,

Why were you against medication?

Oh,

Why was I against medication?

Um,

Okay.

Um,

No,

I'm never against medication because everyone has to do whatever they have to do.

Okay.

But my but you did it without medication to use medication.

I got into natural medicine a long time ago and I didn't like the side effects.

Um,

I didn't want to take anything that could harm my body because I thought I've already got enough problems.

Now when you go into the therapeutic community,

You have to get in touch with that part of you that got shocked.

There's a lot of them BPD borderline personality disorder is PTSD post traumatic stress disorder.

And to me it was getting in touch with all the shocks I've been through in my childhood.

Yeah,

Definitely in my childhood.

So they take the medication away from you because you've got to go inside.

You've got to let the process happen.

At some point you surrender.

It was a very difficult journey for me because I fought the whole time until at some point I surrendered and then something happened inside me.

I forgave myself for the childhood.

I thought I didn't realize I was blaming myself for but yes,

You're not supposed to.

They won't let you use medication because it numbs you and you can't actually get to the feelings and I'm so grateful because I was completely raw.

I was completely torn to pieces and raw and at that point I was able to look at what it was that shocked me in my my childhood.

I was able to let it go thanks to the fact that I didn't have the medication to cover it up.

Now since I've come out of the community and I use meditation,

Mindfulness,

Healing,

Anything rather than medication because of the faith it interferes with my body and makes me very,

Very ill.

But I would never ever tell anyone not to take medication.

They all have to decide what their journey is going to be.

Right.

But to me to heal something like borderline personality disorder with drugs,

Medication,

It's not going to work because there's too many conditions and you can't do it.

So you to me,

You've got to find out what is what actually happened to that person.

How did they become the way they are?

And it all comes from my childhood,

Mainly children who have been abused and never listened to and never loved.

And so but if people have to take a little bit of medication,

I mean,

My my piano player and not he tells everyone it's good.

He's asked schizophrenia.

So he has to take meditation,

Right?

And if I had serious bipolar disorder,

But you see,

VPD is manageable.

I believe it's totally manageable with different techniques that you can use.

And we did it in the therapeutic community.

And I came out and that's how I live my life.

Thank God.

Incredible.

A lot of creativity.

Incredible guys.

I am speaking with the great Lauren Hope.

Now,

Lauren Hope is a tremendous,

Incredible story because she has taken this this this this challenge that she had,

Which she didn't ask for.

She didn't ask to have the borderline personality disorder and didn't ask for the things as she was a child for for that to manifest into this.

But what she's done is she is taken as the old adages her scars into stars and has made something of it and is inspiring people along the way.

So my hat is off to Lauren Hope.

Lauren,

This is pretty awesome.

Now tell me about when I go to moving on theater.

Co.

Uk.

What am I going to see there?

OK,

Well,

If you go on to moving on theater.

Co.

Uk,

You'll see a bit of my story.

If you go on to the media pack,

You can see all the radio shows I've done and the live TV shows I've done talking about using creativity.

How important it is to tap into what you really are.

That's all on there.

You'll be able to see loads of videos of me performing as V to PF.

And there's a promo now of me as Maria Callas.

We have there's pages and pages of feedback from the audience of how I am.

I actually become her rather than act.

Pages and pages of massive feedback and beautiful reviews and the five star review from Brighton.

And a lot and lots of stuff on there that you can actually get to know exactly what it is that's happening.

And also a campaign now for people like myself to get on the media.

A campaign that I'm working with a PR person now and it's early days,

But we're trying to come up with a way of how to use my story in a positive way to help thousands of thousands of people have been diagnosed with a condition that all doctors know how to do is to medicate.

They don't know anything about therapeutic communities.

Do you know what a therapeutic community is?

Well,

I'm just just by listening to you is apparently it works.

Yes.

Do they have them in America?

No,

Usually it's the same thing.

It's just medication.

So you just medication.

Right?

Well,

We're really lucky even though it was struggling.

There's a lot of struggle financially.

The therapeutic community actually started after the First World War because of shocked soldiers and they tried to shock them back to life without medication.

And in this country,

They're kind of scattered a bit all over the place,

But nobody knows what they are.

And that's what my campaign is about as well is all the charities,

All the different mental health charities in this country.

They don't even know where the therapeutic community is.

And they can't actually direct people like myself.

I was so lucky.

I was lucky because I refused to take medication because I was doing a lot of spirituality that they sat me down and they said,

Would you consider a therapeutic community?

And I said,

I'll consider anything because I don't know what to do anymore.

My life was so dreadful.

And it was hell on earth.

It really was very,

Very typical.

But the magic happened and I knew I had to be there.

I fought tooth and nail to stay there.

And luckily the staff kept me there as well.

Wow,

That's awesome.

I got you.

It's an amazing concept because you have 24 hours support system,

The community,

We all have to work together to protect ourselves.

The staff don't intervene hardly at all.

But you have a bell.

You have a bell.

You ring the bell and everyone gathers around.

You say I don't feel very good.

I feel scared.

I'm being triggered.

And they take you for a walk.

That's cool.

It's extraordinary.

And no one knows this exists.

Wow,

Me and a certain amount of people that have been through the system.

And my job is to go out there and to teach people that there is hope.

I have BPD and it's totally manageable.

As far as I'm concerned,

On a day to day basis,

I have to work in it.

I've had a lot of grief.

I broke my leg and ended up in the wheelchair.

My father died.

Oh my god.

But I'm still saying,

Wow,

Lauren,

We got Lauren,

We have to have you back on.

I'm totally out of time right now.

I have to have you back on because your story is incredible.

You're helping a lot of people.

Yeah,

All my work is around performing,

Singing,

Directing and running the TV station.

I have the mental health show on there.

I've taught myself how to edit my own program.

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

Hey,

Lauren,

This is great.

I'm gonna I'm gonna pick this up with you next time we speak.

But right now I got I'm way over but Lauren Hope,

Thank you so much.

Lauren Hope is the founder of California.

But it's lovely there at the moment.

Yeah,

Yeah.

Bye now.

Thank you.

All right,

Guys.

Lauren Hope is the founder of moving on theater go to moving on theater dot co dot UK.

Lauren,

What a great she's a great guest.

I gotta get her back on.

We have more time.

So