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Pain Is Temporal, The Truth Is Eternal

by Premasudha Janet Hobbs

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The realm of the feminine has been so repressed and disowned that when she rises up, she is often covered in the guck of shame, fear, and misunderstandings. We humans, are going to have to learn how to PATIENTLY embrace what is & learn how to transform. Premasudha's work is to assist humanity to embrace our full selves, to open our eyes and learn how to walk in integrity. This means learning to admit the truth, to learn how to be with uncomfortable emotions, knowing that they are just passing. We learn finally not to run from anything, and when we do that, we will find more peace, contentment, fulfillment, and meaning in our lives, as well as increased talents, & eventually we become self-realized. Because whatever we disown in ourselves reduces our love power and our gifts. So when we take an attitude of facing everything with an attitude of gentle embracing, we become more than we ever dreamed of. Takes courage, but your heart is lion-hearted! Speakers: Franka, Gerald, Michael

SpiritualitySelf AcceptanceEmotional HealingDivine FeminineSelf RealizationCourageTruthDivine LoveDivine GraceSelf LoveDivine BeingEmotional ThemeFeminine EnergySpiritual JourneySelf ForgivenessEmotional PainDivine ConnectionInner ChildSurrenderPersonal ResponsibilityDivine Feminine EmbraceDivine PresenceDivine SupportSpiritual Growth

Transcript

Okay.

So we're calling on grace,

On Amma's grace,

On the Creator's grace.

We're actually not calling on so much as letting the divine know that we're ready to receive it because it's surrounding us.

It's wherever we are.

Yeah,

We don't have to call on it.

It's there for us just to breathe into this new understanding.

So that the love feels more immediate and we take better care of it in every moment of our lives.

And so it is.

And may the blessings just fall upon you and come to you over the ethers as you recognize more and more that you are a divine being in human form.

You are divine first.

Yeah,

And in there is your safety in the recognition of that.

So it is.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah,

You guys,

Your beautiful faces.

Here you are.

Yeah,

You know,

Amma said that 19 or 2025 was going to be a painful year for men.

And this will also be the male inside the women.

So I wonder if this is part of what's making more space for the bigger understanding to come in 2026.

Because I'll tell you,

When the men change,

Everything changes.

It's true.

When the men get it,

Then you know,

Things change.

Yeah.

And the men inside the women.

As women realize that we cannot treat ourselves like products.

We are not products to exploit.

Really,

This is why women are so unhappy.

We treat ourselves like products to exploit and use to get whatever our desire is.

Yeah.

And that hurts and it won't work.

And that's why this training is in,

You know,

Self-love,

Self-acceptance.

Painful though it is,

Ladies and gentlemen,

Believe me,

Prama Sutta knows all about it.

But the pain is temporary.

And the truth is eternal.

And it's your safest spot.

Yeah.

Yeah,

That's where you're safe,

Is in the truth.

I want to tell you something.

You know,

They talk about the spiritual journey being a razor's edge.

So when I was raising the boys,

If I went out of alignment,

I would start getting these breakdown symptoms again.

And it would be very scary.

And my family was looking at me always looking at me like sideways,

Like,

Is she gonna lose it again?

And so there was nowhere for me to run.

Do you know?

Nowhere for me to run at all.

So I had to make the shift.

And I didn't,

You know,

I didn't even have a teacher really.

It was before I met Amma.

I want you to realize that.

So I would be walking around starting to fall apart again,

Two kids.

And I would make the shift.

I would like,

Hold on to God with all my heart.

I would like to do anything to come up out of this pain.

And I would make the shift.

And I would move into truth.

And I get some peace,

I get some more light.

The you know,

Everything with the boys would settle down.

Right.

So I just want to make really clear,

It is not a theoretical journey.

You either do it or you don't.

And this emotional realm that I teach from is the most neglected of anything on the journey.

And it's why people don't make much progress on the journey often.

Because they don't get how to the emotional realm,

They don't know how to work with their emotional IQ,

And allow it to rise.

It's the realm of the feminine.

So because the females been disallowed,

This whole package has been ignored.

And it's why people just circle round in their heads.

You have to come into an emotional understanding.

Yeah.

Okay,

Good.

Okay,

Well,

I'll talk more about this tomorrow,

Probably too.

So on the heels of all this questions,

Ladies and gentlemen,

Or observations.

And you can ask me about me if you need to whatever,

Whatever you need today.

Feels like there's some kind of energy download.

Wanting to happen in basically all of you.

Yeah.

And it's as if you just need space to do it.

And I'm not even talking about time on your own or physical space.

I'm talking about like kind of permission.

It's permission.

Yeah,

That's what you're getting today permission to know what you know already.

You already know this.

It's just kind of permission to receive the knowledge.

Yeah,

It's kind of the most important thing.

I mean,

You know,

I premise it,

Any teacher can help.

But the main thing is,

Will you allow yourself to know what you know,

And to live in truth?

Will you learn how to not panic?

Yeah,

Or getting catastrophic or the wind up,

You know?

What if,

What if,

What and you know,

It's,

You know,

You know,

The whole world is upset and nervous.

So you know,

All this stuff comes in over the ethers.

So we feel it.

So no,

Give yourself space,

But this downloads wanting to come and it's being blocked by your crown chakras,

A lot of you.

It's sort of like,

Well,

You know,

Sort of God's there for everybody else,

But not me.

I'm going to ask Amma to help you guys.

You see,

You can keep that going your whole lives.

Okay,

Remember this.

Hear this,

You can keep this going your whole life,

This belief that oh,

It's for everybody else,

Not me.

I'm such a miserable sinner.

Yeah,

Don't do that.

Don't do that.

You cannot sin.

Yeah.

You know,

I came up with this line,

There is a serious crime here,

The crime of being too serious.

And that's,

That is the thing on the journey.

It kills us being too serious about it all.

The creator is wanting to come in through the top of your heads.

So remember,

If you feel any tension or pressure or anything,

Just embrace,

Just embrace.

That's it.

That's it.

That's good.

Okay,

I'm talking too much.

So maybe you don't know what to say after all this.

You're upon a syllabic.

Premasuddha is on a roll.

I just have a little story from today,

Where exactly that happened,

What you were just talking about that usually I feel like I don't deserve all the love and attention from the universe.

And today I was at a soccer game of my kids.

And I was taking my time to write in my diary while I was there,

Because I also wrote the email to you.

And then I wrote in my diary that I feel like an animal in the cage.

And right away after that,

A kid around me just howled like a dog.

Right?

Okay,

Good.

So just was for me a sign of the universe is always there.

And it's always around me and fills me in this right there.

It was an interesting insight or recognition of that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Branka,

It was a moment of being right of being.

So you were just there.

And you saw your state being reflected by this child,

Just in a neutral way.

Right.

That is the experience of being.

That is experience actually.

That is clearing the way for love power.

Yeah.

It's that.

Yeah.

Remember last week,

I was talking about there need to be more room for feelings.

This is this is kind of it.

This is just being neutral,

Being and observing,

Just like that.

And you see yourself being reflected back by the outside world.

Right.

Okay,

Good.

Okay.

Now,

Branka,

As you get going more,

You might experience,

You might go through that and experience then just a moment of compassion for the child,

In a way.

Do you understand?

For the howling child.

And then that compassion would come back to you.

And you'd be free of the cage.

It's kind of like that.

And again,

You're so sensitive.

I don't want to make any have to,

And it may never happen like that.

But I'm just wanting to expand you past a kind of a self containment that you,

You experience.

It's sort of like,

It's,

I don't know,

It's just,

It's,

I know,

It's for Franca to discover the mystery.

It's like,

Yeah,

To Franca to open up to get interested in this really big mystery.

That's way beyond any anything.

And at the same time,

That is fantastic,

What you did.

Do you understand?

Right.

So,

How do you feel about what I say?

Everything about it,

Very honest.

Um,

I feel that it's not,

I don't understand that.

So fully,

Actually,

Like with a mystery,

And that there's more than I feel right now.

So,

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah,

So you're saying,

I don't understand what I'm interested is sort of catching the yearning in your heart for that,

Like,

Fanning the flame of the yearning in your heart to know that mystery to to be in it.

Yeah,

It feels that there is not enough.

I don't know that I'm caught in other things that keep my attention.

So,

Yeah.

Right.

Okay,

This is fantastic.

And this is exactly what everybody struggles with.

We get we're fascinated by the concrete,

We get hypnotized by what's going on outside us.

Yeah,

I see that flimmer and then from this magic world,

But then days after it just isn't that flimmering anymore.

So my attention goes to the other stuff.

Yeah,

That's what I'm just experiencing.

Yeah.

Yes.

And so it,

It becomes as you as you proceed,

There develops a yearning for it.

Where so it comes and goes.

And when it goes,

You kind of gnash your teeth and go where is it and you start talking to the divine like 24 seven till it comes back.

But this cannot be orchestrated,

It can't be legislated,

It just comes.

But many of us are running a kind of hopelessness inside.

So when we lose it,

We just go,

Oh,

This is how it is.

And,

Right.

So that's what I'm feeling right now,

This hopelessness.

Now,

Franca,

The hopelessness is ego,

Right?

So,

Okay,

It's just really good.

I can say this,

And this pertains to everybody.

Right.

And,

You know,

The hopelessness is just ego coming up to be cleared,

Really,

You know,

It's not true.

So we can,

You can just walk through it.

You see,

As we get older,

We,

You get more and more,

You guys,

As you age,

You will realize,

Increasingly,

That no person,

No object can make you happy.

Okay,

This is the great thing of gray hairs or white hairs.

So you get really,

Okay,

Let's just,

Let's just keep the focus on God.

Okay,

Now,

If you can do that earlier than the gray hairs and everything good,

But if you can't,

Oh,

Well,

You know,

Enjoy your life,

You know,

You'll just get brought to it.

The thing is,

You get brought to it,

Then when you're 55,

And you go,

Oh,

My goodness,

Why didn't I do this earlier?

Really,

This is what happens.

But,

You know,

It's also already pre-ordained what we go through,

And when we're really going to wake up,

You guys.

So we just find out what's already happened in our lives.

So the whole thing is so ridiculous.

But anyway.

Okay,

So how do you feel right now,

Franca,

And what are you thinking?

Well,

There's expansion in my heart and kind of coolness,

But also a little pressure.

Okay,

Yeah,

Okay.

And when you said a little pressure,

It was like,

That's a bad thing.

That's a good thing.

Okay,

So I want you to get through your noggins.

Pressure is good.

It is the divine knocking on your bodies.

This is where you guys trip all the time.

All of it's good.

Yes.

And the cool energies,

The feminine energy,

So that's good.

Yeah,

Make room for the pressure.

It's just love power coming in.

Okay,

Good.

This is the breakthrough.

Maybe you guys are good,

So you're going to get like,

I don't know,

Get it.

Premasut is insisting you get it.

I'm not going to keep explaining it.

You got to get it,

You guys.

Pressure is good.

Okay,

It's your soul coming back.

Please,

Please,

Mercy on Premasut.

Please don't keep me so I'm 100 years old saying this.

Okay,

All right.

You're very dear.

Good work,

Franco.

That's good.

Thank you.

The great thing about this kind of work is you can do like two years of meditation in one satsang,

You guys,

As your comprehension goes up.

But it's important to keep meditating with absolute sincerity.

But just as you get it,

You can make incredible leaps.

This feminine face of God is coming in in this world.

So if you turn and you embrace her,

She will just give you everything.

And one of the things to embrace the feminine is when you get pressure,

Just say,

Okay,

Your soul's coming in.

Yay.

Open up to it.

Yeah.

I mean,

Oh my God.

But yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Now look,

You're divine beings in human form.

So one of the ways your divinity is going to come in is kind of through pressure and pain in your bodies.

And if you just embrace it,

You'll get the message and doctor's offices won't be so full of sad people.

This is great.

Premasutha is a happy camper.

Okay.

Anybody else?

Hey,

Premasutha.

It's Gerald.

Gerald.

Hi.

How are you?

I'm here.

But yeah,

I'll start by saying I sincerely feel the knowing that it's breakthrough time.

But it's also very,

Very big challenging time again,

In the last couple of days,

Two to three days.

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

Okay.

Um,

I really relate to what Franca said about also,

In my case,

I feel that my attention is like the pendulum has been swinging a lot quicker.

And a lot more intensely.

Yeah.

I was really at peace with this and being able to be focused on getting in the habit of witnessing.

But in the last two days,

I got a rejection for a job,

I'm still unemployed.

And I've run out of money.

And this voice came in.

And it really preyed on a very,

Very old wound.

And it said,

Oh,

You see,

This is what happens when you follow an unknown path.

You're losing,

You know,

You're,

You're,

You're,

You're financially ruined.

You're,

You know,

You're,

You're going to,

You know,

You're going to die or you're not didn't say I was going to die.

But you know,

Just giving this this sense of dread,

Again.

Yeah.

And it's so old that it even I was it coming,

I came into awareness that this is kind of the thing that prevented me from so many things in the past,

Like following a whole a full fledged career in music,

Or many other different decisions.

And that really,

And I know it's coming from from a wound,

It's coming from my ego,

It's not the truth.

Even if I knew it wasn't the truth,

It riled me up so much that I haven't been able to get out of it.

Because it's true.

I am.

I've,

I'm bankrupt.

I'm bankrupt.

And it's really scary.

Yeah.

So,

You know,

It's a question of how long you're gonna hold on.

Yeah.

You know,

Gerald,

You know,

Premise Suda did the same thing you're doing.

And I'll tell you,

Premise Suda then got like taken on this kind of road of hell.

Yeah,

Where I just lived out that I wasn't surrendering at all.

Do you see what I mean that I was holding on so tight,

And it got worse and worse and worse and worse and worse,

Lost more and more and more and more.

Until finally,

There wasn't anything left of the old premise Suda.

And I was still faced with having to live.

So,

You know,

I just lived and got my spiritual education that way.

What I'm saying might sound pretty bleak to you.

But,

You know,

You can sort of go around and play these helpless games with your head until you have a rebirth.

And I don't know how you're gonna handle this period or what is really going to happen.

But I know that,

You know,

After this,

After the shit has hit the fan,

You will be far lighter,

And far clearer and far happier.

I just don't know what kind of pain you're going to cause yourself between now and then.

So how do you feel about what I've said?

I feel like I want to hear it,

Because I don't want to cause myself any more pain.

Yeah,

But maybe you will.

It's not ridiculing,

Man.

It's just like,

It's the,

We are unfixable.

And if you want to fix yourself at all,

You're screwed.

Because it won't work.

The only thing that works is,

You know,

Becoming like a little child.

And,

You know,

You might have an experience.

Yeah,

You might have an experience of,

Like,

Feeling surrounded by concrete,

And then the concrete just cracking and you emerging.

Or you may,

I don't know what,

You know,

What you're faced with,

Like,

I don't know,

Going to the welfare place or whatever,

Whatever you are faced with,

Whether you'll just live that out.

Yeah,

And I can feel you,

I can feel the darkness in you right now.

And,

Yeah.

Yeah,

It's kind of,

You know,

What Premasuddha said,

There is infinite compassion in what I said to you.

Okay,

It's not criticism or judgment.

It's just compassion and knowledge about working with people.

Yeah,

So I can feel you're in this darkness.

And it's like,

You know,

Rigid as a post in a,

You know,

Or a building,

In a building,

Kind of one of those poles that's holding up the ceiling.

Yeah,

And you can't move.

And you,

You know,

It's like this pole is holding up the roof.

And so you just stack because you feel responsible for holding up the roof.

And it's,

So you're like,

Oh,

I've got to figure this out,

You know,

And you're with the responsibility.

But actually,

It's like,

It's not solvable there.

And you can't solve it,

Like,

Only the divine can solve this.

Right.

Right.

I mean,

What are you gonna do?

I mean,

Only the divine,

I mean,

You see,

This is precisely why I got disturbed by it,

Because I feel it now,

As you're speaking,

The knowing and the feeling in my body,

Again,

Of how I was perceiving this before.

I mean,

I was,

I was really ready to just be like,

Well,

It's just gonna play out the way it plays out.

I'm just gonna keep trusting,

Because I can't do anything else other than keep trusting.

Yeah,

But you see,

You're still working with it from your head more.

Like,

It's more,

The place to go is more in the feminine,

It's more where Franco was talking from,

From that point of being.

You won't be able to legislate yourself to move there,

But that is where it's going to get solved.

Because your struggle with your head,

You are struggling with your head,

Even though you think,

You know,

Like you're going,

Okay,

I'm doing it.

I'm doing it right.

I'm surrendered.

I'm gonna take what comes.

But actually,

It's,

It's just,

It's still in your ego.

It's just,

It's not a real surrender.

Yeah.

Yeah,

It's still,

The surrender that you think is surrender is just phony.

It's a,

It's an ego place.

But how do you feel about hearing that?

It makes me wonder if I was surrendered at all then.

Yeah,

No.

Look,

I love you so much,

Gerald.

Like,

You are just exquisite to me.

You know,

Like you,

Your innocence is stunning.

I'm like,

You know,

A big fan of Gerald's,

I have to say.

I am.

I am.

And I think some of this is your cultural genetics that you're banging up against.

Yeah.

And kind of just,

Yeah,

It's your genetics.

This is what's,

This is where you're stuck in your genetics.

Exactly.

I feel that a lot of this isn't really the true me.

It isn't.

It doesn't feel like me.

No.

It isn't.

You know,

You're still,

This part of you still the little scared boy in the corner,

Trying to figure it out.

And he's just going to have to come forward.

Now,

You already have done this on some levels,

But it's a deeper level now of the scared boy in the corner.

And Premasuddha knows what it's like to be a scared child in the corner and have to come forward.

This is what this work is.

Your scared child in the corner having to come forward into truth.

Really,

This is this work.

And Gerald,

You're kind of saying,

Oh,

If I was just loved enough,

I could do it.

And the thing is,

You are,

But your mom couldn't go that far for you.

But God can.

And actually,

Premasuddha can.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know.

Yeah.

And there's no demand that you do anything.

It's just great you're getting it.

You know,

The universe is so relentless.

You're just,

You know,

You're just going to be waking up day after day with this problem until something changes.

This is why I say,

If we just refuse to jump off cliffs,

It does get solved by life.

These really,

Really uncomfortable places.

They're so uncomfortable.

It's beyond agonizing.

But it does get solved.

And sometimes when we're letting go of our genetics,

It is that level of pain.

And there's part of you,

It's sort of like you're trying to hold on to control.

It's like,

Okay,

You're like,

Okay,

This is a problem,

And this has to be solved,

And I'm doing it right this moment.

But,

Oh,

This moment,

I'm not doing it right.

Do you see?

It's not innocence.

You know,

Don't even,

I mean,

It's almost like,

Just forget about the spiritual journey and get a job.

It's sort of like,

Do anything.

Forget about the journey.

Just get down to animal.

Remember,

Franka,

The animal screaming.

This is the child screaming.

This is what I'm talking about.

This work is at that level,

The animal level,

Plus your divinity.

But to get to the animals,

Like,

You have to,

You know,

You're going to have to,

Like,

Be fed.

And it's like,

But maybe you have to lose your place.

I don't know,

Like,

How agonizing you want to make it for yourself.

It's like,

You know,

Gerald,

It's like you just need Amma's hug right now.

It's sort of like,

There's,

You know,

Nothing I can say to your head,

Because your head is just going to,

You know,

Grab everything and try to do it from this control thing,

And it's more like you're,

You're,

Yeah,

You're just faced with,

You know,

You're an animal.

You need a cave,

And you need food.

And,

Yeah,

That has to get solved somehow.

I just forget about the spiritual journey.

It's like,

You know,

Go outside and put,

You know,

You know,

Okay,

Okay,

Just opening it all up,

Gerald,

Go outside,

Sit down with a cup,

Put a sign,

I am broke,

Help.

Yeah,

Like,

Do,

No,

I mean it.

It's like,

Do whatever you have to do.

I mean it.

I mean it.

There's just,

You know,

Do whatever you have to do.

You're not going to get shot by the firing squad.

There's no firing squad.

There's just this kind of emergency situation here,

And just do moment by moment,

But just,

Just do the next thing,

And then the next thing,

And the next thing,

But I tell you,

Your head is just going to have to go along for the ride,

And a witness kind of how much the control has brought you to your knees.

No,

Yes,

This is very clear.

I've been thinking about the same thing every day.

I'm on my hands and knees.

Right.

There's no question about this at all.

Yes,

And you have no mercy for yourself.

It's like,

I'm a man.

I have to solve this.

I have to feed myself.

What kind of man am I if I can't feed myself?

Yeah,

And you know,

Just a priceless one,

I'd say,

Who's just going through a spiritual understanding.

You're absolutely priceless.

Yeah,

Pramasutha has a great deal of love and respect for you,

Man.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

I know I'm priceless.

Yes,

You are.

I just don't understand why I have to see it in my external world still.

Why does that matter so much?

And there you are in your arrogance.

It's like,

Okay,

You're telling God what to do.

Yes,

Exactly.

Yeah,

This is okay.

Yeah.

So,

You want to go up into control and speak with Pramasutha about this like a philosopher,

And it's like,

Meanwhile,

You're tanking,

Man.

You're tanking.

None of that stuff is going to help at all.

Yeah,

I mean,

You're getting brought down and humbled,

You know?

Really,

Very dramatically.

And you know,

Sometimes our persona,

Our ego is of a humble spiritual seeker,

And we're like,

But I'm already a humble spiritual seeker,

And it's like,

Okay,

The universe goes,

Okay,

And even more is required of you.

Look,

I'm laughing,

You guys,

Because look,

I see myself in all the stuff you're going through.

All the time,

Pramasutha has been horribly humbled,

You know?

All of my misunderstandings that I've gone through,

It's like,

You guys speak them.

It's like,

Oh,

God,

I remember.

And even this,

There's something wrong with what I'm saying.

It's like,

It's not helping.

I'm getting this from the universe.

Pramasutha,

Just what you're doing is not helping.

Okay,

All right,

I'll shut up,

Okay?

Awful.

Endlessly awful.

Remember,

I started this with,

There's a serious crime here,

The crime of being too serious.

We get too serious on the journey.

But it's not a fault.

It's like you're going through,

You're clearing genetics here.

That is a very intense time,

Gerald.

When you're clearing the genetics,

It's intense.

You have centuries of experience in them.

Many lifetimes behind any change in our genetics that we're making.

Okay,

How about this?

Just step out of the whole situation and watch it.

Just watch yourself go through whatever.

Watch yourself if you have to get a cup on the pavement.

Watch yourself if you,

I don't know.

In Canada,

I think you can go down to the construction jobs.

You just turn up at seven o'clock and you get some kind of work.

I know that your true instinctive center,

Okay,

Here you guys,

Your true instinctive center will solve this.

Okay?

We have an animal instinctive nature in our base chakra.

That will solve this.

Nothing else will,

Basically.

It's like stepping right outside your ideas of the spiritual journey,

Right outside everything,

And just watch.

Because you've got a genetic thing going about God and the spiritual journey,

You see,

And this is what's tripping you up.

Yeah.

This is where we get stuck,

You guys.

All the centuries of religiosity and stuff,

Even in our genetics,

About what our gene pool did with the spiritual journey.

Truly,

We have to outgrow it all.

Go beyond,

Go beyond,

Go beyond.

Man,

I had major WASP English stuff,

But I'd had a big series of Jewish lives before,

Not long before this one.

So,

I had a lot of Jewish overhang in my journey.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like part of you thinks you're going to be put in jail.

I'm seeing you like thinking that you're going to be escorted into jail.

No,

Gerald,

Sweet one.

You know,

You need some divine feminine energy.

Well,

My left side is definitely the most painful,

I believe.

It hurts these days?

Like what?

What's going on in your left side?

Well,

For example,

My shoulder and my elbow,

Really painful.

A lot of tension.

Okay.

Okay.

Good news.

The elbow,

If your elbow hurts,

It's really good news.

It means change.

Okay.

Really good news.

It's real change in your feminine.

This is really,

Really good.

And your shoulder is the emotional responsibility.

It's probably you feeling like that you're emotionally responsible to figure all this stuff out.

And you're not.

You're not.

Right.

You know,

When Peter and I broke up,

My elbows hurt dramatically for three months,

And it was part of my life changing direction.

So,

Gerald,

The shoulder,

This pain,

You see,

This pain is good news.

You know,

This is what I want you guys to realize.

When your body hurts,

It's good news.

It's like look it up in the transcendent body approach and go like,

Okay,

What is it?

Okay.

It's the feminine,

You know,

Emotional responsibility.

Elbows are changing.

It would help you then deal with this.

You guys all go into,

Oh,

My body hurts.

It's like,

It's a message,

You guys.

It's not bad news.

It's a message.

It's the only way the universe can speak to you because your head's so full of thoughts.

Really,

The universe has to figure out sideways ways to get through to us.

And also,

When you're in pain like this,

It's lifting.

Gerald,

It's lifting.

This feeling emotionally responsible to figure it all out is lifting.

Your elbows,

You're changing direction.

It's happening in your inner woman.

This is good news.

This is what I want to communicate.

Like you guys,

There's an exuberance to this.

If you have a teacher like me,

It's like,

Man,

I so get this.

It's like,

Just relax.

Just relax.

It's all good news.

Yeah,

Cut to the meaning of what this pain's about.

Don't go into this self-pity and like,

Why me and everything.

It's like,

You'll have 100 million more lifetimes if you do that.

Please.

Yes,

Please give up the self-pity.

Please.

Oh,

You guys,

The thing is,

You see,

With Premasutra,

There was no one to save me,

So this stuff didn't work.

And self-pity would come up and I'd go,

Oh God,

Here I am again,

This stuff.

I'd go,

Okay,

You can have an evening of self-pity and then let's get through it.

But when I talked to you,

It sounds like I was really competent going through it.

I wasn't.

I was just like you.

I was like,

What the hell?

What the hell?

Where are you,

God?

I'm lost.

I'm alone.

Help.

I'm impoverished.

Help.

Right.

Just the same.

Yeah,

So like,

Don't think you're special with your pain.

You're not.

It's all the same pain.

Just stop your love affair with it.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Gerald,

Just get curious.

Just like,

Step out and go like,

Okay,

How is Gerald gonna solve this one?

No,

Really.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I can feel like there's part of you,

You feel,

What you were set on before we talked was sort of being escorted to the jail center.

You know,

Even,

You know,

So you would have a full experience of your emotional prison.

That's what that was.

And then that would get you to surrender.

Okay.

But maybe you've surrendered now.

I don't know.

But I'll tell you,

I know you will surrender because you have to eat.

So,

It will get solved.

Yeah.

But you're not in control of it.

It's like,

Step aside and just watch how the mind-body called Gerald,

Just watch what he goes through and how he solves this.

Or it doesn't solve it.

Just watch him.

You're a mind-body figure that your soul is watching and loving and connected to,

Kind of.

Oh,

You're going,

Okay,

Here we are.

You're going,

I'm not really a soul.

Okay.

Okay.

That's so interesting.

You're saying that to me.

I'm not really a soul.

But you are,

You see.

It's just this part of you doesn't want to know.

Yeah.

You're going,

If I realize I'm a soul,

I'm going to have to forgive myself.

And you're going,

I can't do that.

Okay.

There's the genetics,

Having trouble forgiving.

It's like knowing all about judgment,

Judging God,

Not so much about forgiving.

Okay.

So,

When you bring in forgiving,

You are stepping past your genetics.

This is key,

Yes.

Totally key.

And this is what I adore about all you guys,

Is because the bottom line is,

You know underneath,

And when Premasuddha speaks it,

That's where we meet.

Yeah.

Self-forgiveness.

Listen,

Man,

You talk about self-forgiveness,

I go like,

Well,

I have to forgive Premasuddha because I could have understood this 30 years earlier.

Oh,

Really?

But we couldn't.

It's like,

It all has to be this way.

Right?

It's interesting.

I can feel that you're willing to be brought to forgiveness,

And that you're going to be more caring and careful with this little child energy within you.

You're going to be,

You're like a dad who's waking up that he's too harsh and judgmental with his child,

And that he's hurting the child's heart,

Actually destroying the heart of the child with his thoughts.

This is what you've got to realize,

That this heavy,

Heavy head thing that's connected to your genetics is destroying your child's innocent heart.

Yeah.

Right.

It's like what parents go through.

You start seeing what you're doing,

You go,

Oh God.

So,

I'm seeing you in tropical land,

Sitting on the beach,

Gerald,

With your feet and legs in the water.

You're half on the,

You're on land,

And you're on sea.

You're both,

Half in,

Half out.

It's a good place to be.

It's like access to your subconscious.

It's kind of a,

It means opening up to the wilder truth of things coming out of the ego.

The sea is like a treasure chest of solutions in our subconscious.

The ocean of our subconscious is like a treasure house for riches and solutions to our difficulties.

And,

When we open up to allow our subconscious to help us,

Yeah,

When we stop being so religiously rigid,

Okay you guys,

All of you,

You get too religiously rigid.

You just,

It's wilder.

You let your subconscious solve things.

Yeah.

This rise of the feminine is coming into this world,

And it's going to bring interest and connection to our bodies,

To our feelings,

To the subconscious,

To understanding dreams and intuitions.

And,

Certainly here is like a big center of this,

So you'll get support for it.

Some of you,

You know,

You come every so often when you need to,

Which is okay,

But you're missing IV downloads that when you attend satsang you get.

But,

It's all good.

Like,

All good.

There's no,

It's all good.

I just noticed some of you,

Like,

You know,

It's devotion to the journey that works.

We can't be tourists.

If you're a tourist,

You never get anywhere.

It's real devotion that works.

And,

Even with real devotion,

It,

You know,

It takes time,

And we have trouble sometimes.

And,

Truly,

Please don't feel you have to attend satsang,

But just don't be casual.

Don't be casual about the journey.

Because,

If you're casual about the journey,

You'll miss the gold,

You know.

How could it be otherwise?

In any career,

If you're casual,

You know,

You get laid off,

You know.

And,

If you're casual,

Be gentle with yourself and don't just be honest and honor yourself wherever you are.

You know how we make progress?

We go,

Like,

Okay,

Yeah,

I'm casual about the journey.

Yeah,

It's true.

I'm casual about the journey.

It's like Franka's moment where she just was with herself and she heard the child howl.

It's just like that.

You just have this expanded acceptance.

Yeah,

I'm casual about the journey.

I just don't care that much.

That is how it is.

Just be with it.

That's the secret to growth.

You just are,

Kind of,

You have an expanded moment of self-acceptance,

And then everything changes.

And,

You can try and fix till the cows come home,

But it's these expanded moments of self-acceptance that have the power.

This work is really going to change you guys.

There's a tremendous acceleration that's going to be taking place.

And,

The way Premasuddha teaches is going to be different.

It'll be better.

It'll be more effective.

And,

Just coming and listening,

If you never even speak in a satsang,

Still helps.

All of you feel,

Like,

To me,

All of you,

It feels like all of you are more spacious in yourselves.

Yeah,

That means all of you.

I don't know whether you all feel this or not,

But Premasuddha can feel it.

So,

If you're not feeling it right now,

It's going to bubble up later.

Yeah,

You cannot make a mistake on this journey,

You guys.

You just get the next moment,

And then the next moment,

And then the next moment.

You cannot make a mistake.

You please understand this.

It is the bad and good within us that Amma has said is the major thing that trips us up,

Our ideas of bad and good.

And,

It seems so real,

The bad and good.

It seems so real.

We go,

Oh yeah,

I'm so bad.

I don't meditate enough.

I don't eat right,

Or whatever.

It's like you're still a divine being.

That is the biggest truth about you,

A divine being.

And,

Your divinity will solve things for you.

And,

As you love yourself more,

You will eat better.

It's like that.

Just organically start eating better because you love yourself more.

Yeah,

It takes time,

So just decide to have a long life.

Follow,

You know,

Take Amma's or Pramasutra's example,

Just have a long life.

Does anybody have any other questions or comments?

Or just feedback,

Or whatever.

Or a song,

Or a poem,

Whatever.

Pramasutra?

Yeah,

Michael.

Hi.

You know,

I just wanted to say that,

You know,

When I get in touch with this,

You know,

The river of love,

Kind of,

It just seems sometimes so overwhelming.

It just really feels,

Yeah,

Just overwhelming.

Right.

So,

Keep going.

Well,

It's a wonderful feeling,

And then,

You know,

Just to bathe in it.

That's all I want to say,

Actually.

Yeah,

But there's more to say,

Man,

That you're just not saying it,

And you're doing it.

You're doing one of your tricks.

Keep talking.

What is it you're not saying?

Well,

I'm scared of it.

Right.

Hello.

Do you see what it's like working with you guys?

Like,

Tricks,

PhD in tricks.

It's like,

It's why I get hard with you.

Yeah.

Anyway,

Yeah,

You're scared of it.

Yeah.

Um,

I want it,

But I don't want it.

Yeah.

And what is coming up for you for the next seven months?

I don't know.

The busiest time of your year in your work?

The time that you're going to have to work the hardest and stay the most concentrated?

Do you see how I'm having to spoon feed,

Michael?

Because this is what you guys do.

Okay.

How am I spoon feeding you,

Michael?

Well,

You're telling me what I should know.

It wasn't,

You know,

Uppermost present in my mind.

Um,

And I guess the reason is because.

Um,

I still,

I still don't feel that the work interferes with how I'm feeling,

But it,

But it does.

I want more time.

Right.

There it is.

That's the truth.

Yeah.

I felt that.

Okay.

And when you said,

I felt that,

You're going like,

Yeah,

I already knew.

I'm good.

And that's okay.

It's okay.

I'm just,

You know.

I'm just looking for a reduced amount of static around you,

Michael,

And reduced amount of.

Yeah.

You know,

Remember I talked to you about the pointy shoes of the car salesman.

Um,

Yeah,

You do this with me on the journey.

It's like you do car salesman a bit,

And I'm kind of watching myself go after you,

And it's not.

It's kind of what I'm wanting you to develop is a big,

Round,

Fully developed understanding.

What you do is you will come forward with something just like,

Oh yeah,

The bathing in the light,

And you'll kind of then sit back like a child waiting for the parent to then explain life to them.

You know,

And be passive,

Like a couch potato passive,

Being a passive participant,

And it's not,

That won't work.

Like,

It's okay for real,

You know,

The very,

Very beginning,

But at your point,

It's for you to take more self-responsibility,

And be true to yourself,

And be true to what you need.

And yeah,

Being bathed in love,

It's scary,

And then it's like,

And then why is it scary?

Because I'll realize that I want more time,

And I don't see how I can have more time in my life right now.

Especially with the demands of work,

Which I execute well,

But,

You know,

You gird up for it,

You prepare for it,

You rise up to it.

It's like a warrior,

Like you put on your gear before battle,

Yeah.

And there's nothing wrong with any of this,

This is all good.

I'm just,

Do you see what I'm doing,

You guys?

I'm just helping Michael just kind of embrace the situation,

And receive more information about himself.

You know,

It's almost like I'm sitting in two worlds.

I don't want to let the old one go,

Because I feel valuable when I work.

And the other side of me says,

I'd like to sit under a tree,

And just,

You know,

And just feel life,

And not do anything,

You know,

Not do anything.

Right,

Right.

So,

Your soul will,

There's no good or bad,

Your soul will just solve it for you,

Like,

You know,

Just over time.

But you guys remember,

Okay,

The being in two worlds is the ego,

Okay?

There is no two worlds.

There is one world.

There is one world,

The divine,

We're in unconditional love.

Do you understand this?

For any spiritual master,

There's one world.

And it's an illusion.

It's not even real.

So,

Really,

There isn't even a world,

There's just God.

So,

Any thought we have that we're living in two worlds is coming from the ego,

And is untrue.

So,

It's just all of what,

You know,

One wants to do with this,

Like,

Or what,

You just keep talking to the soul,

Like,

Talking to Amma.

But part of you,

Michael,

It's like,

There's something where you want my attention,

And I want you to be real,

Okay?

I want you to be real,

More real,

Just more real.

Yeah,

When I say things about the pointy shoes of a car salesman,

I mean,

That's a big thing to consider,

You know,

If you want truth.

There is no truth beyond that.

That is your homework to look at in you,

And to face.

When a teacher gives you an image like that,

You know,

You can't just ignore it,

And then keep talking to the teacher,

You know,

It doesn't work like that.

You have to take what the teacher says,

And chew on it.

Yeah,

That's the whole point of this.

Yeah,

It's like,

Take this stuff I say to you home to your hearts.

I mean,

Am I a parrot that I just,

Like,

Say these things for no reason?

Or is this,

Like,

What I say,

Totally tailor-made for each individual?

Yeah,

Coming from the highest level of input,

Yeah,

Hello.

So,

Think about it,

Take it to heart,

Work with it,

Right?

Experiment,

Not in a heavy way,

Not in judgment,

Not just like,

Oh,

This is data,

This is something to think about,

As well as everything else,

Like how to pay the rent,

How to feed yourself,

Then also think about the images that Premasuddha gives you.

Right,

Because I'll tell you,

Michael,

On a deep level,

You want your integrity this lifetime.

And because you want your integrity this lifetime,

This is why Premasuddha is being this way with you and talking about the pointy shoes of the used car salesman,

Because I'm trying to help you get what your soul wants.

Yeah,

Trying to free your soul,

Yeah.

Please,

You guys,

Understand this.

You know,

Premasuddha can look like,

You know,

Jenny on the block and everything,

But this work is coming from a completely transcendent spot.

Yeah,

Just keep that in mind.

I really feel that's what I want.

But,

Yeah,

First of all,

Often I don't notice it.

And,

Yeah,

And I like to be comfortable.

Integrity is being comfortable.

Ah,

Right.

I don't notice it because I don't want to be comfortable.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah,

Good.

Good honesty.

This is like getting rid of the pointy car salesman shoes,

Like just getting down to the truth of it,

Because just admitting the truth of things to yourself,

That's all you have to do,

Because when you admit it,

You will change.

It's all,

That's all Premasuddha just admits stuff to herself and she changes.

It's funny,

You know.

What?

Sorry,

It's funny.

One of our boys is having a huge problem with a used car dealership.

Spent thousands of dollars on a car,

Which is now sitting on blocks and doesn't work anymore.

And he's,

You know,

Gone to the government and then he's going to go to court.

Anyway,

Yeah.

I mean,

If I look at those guys,

And I'm one of them,

I guess I got a pretty good mirror in front of my face.

Well,

You've got,

No,

No,

You've got,

No,

No,

No,

No,

You've got the mirror of the whole thing.

You've got the car shoe salesman,

Or car salesman patterning,

Or that your ego's in,

But you've also got the patterning of the innocent person getting hurt by it.

The innocent male energy within you being hurt by it.

You see,

You've got it both.

Right?

And even,

You know,

And again,

I say this lightly,

It's not your self-responsibility,

But you will find that you dealing with this in yourself helps this problem with your son resolve.

Will help your son's issue resolve as you deal with this in yourself,

But it's not on a level of responsibility in your shoulders.

Do you understand?

It's not on you at all,

But we have this power,

How we live our lives directly affects our children.

Yeah.

How do you feel just with what Premasood has been saying?

Very thankful you say that.

Because?

Because it shines the light and just to know it.

Right,

But you're doing it,

You're doing it a little bit.

There's something deeper in your heart that you're avoiding.

It's kind of like that,

Doing a,

But it's like placating the Premasood somehow.

It's like,

What is the deeper heart point in there that you're not putting words to?

Something that hit your heart at a bullseye level and you,

Yes,

You don't want to face this.

I,

I don't want to feel responsible for my son's misfortunes.

Right.

But the,

You know,

Michael,

The truth of it is,

You don't want to feel responsible for your own life.

You don't want to go into integrity.

Yeah,

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

Do you see this thing with Premasood that we're exchanging?

It's like,

Premasood is getting bumped up.

It's like,

No more nonsense,

You guys.

I think next week there'll be three people at the question and answer.

I'm teasing you.

You guys,

We all go together,

You know.

Premasood,

You know,

She bumbles away just like you.

Don't,

Michael,

Just hearing this,

Don't,

You know,

I mean,

I guess if you go into feeling bad,

You know,

You can do that.

Maybe you have to feel bad about it,

But I'm not wanting to do that.

I'm just wanting to free you,

Help free you,

And to help you guys all come into this bigger way of seeing,

This bigger way of understanding,

Because your spiritual journey will really accelerate as you do this.

And you see,

It's because we ignore this stuff,

This,

You know,

We ignore the fact that we're getting all these metaphors right in front of our faces,

That we're living a metaphorical life here.

We,

You know,

In illusion,

We're living metaphors.

We're like in a stage.

It's all,

Everything we go through is a metaphor for what our soul's trying to teach us.

Yeah,

And this is,

You know,

Because otherwise,

You guys,

The journey,

The spiritual journey gets corporate and regimented and 8 a.

M.

Meditation time and vegan,

You know,

All that stuff.

No,

You know,

Vegetarian,

Everything.

And you can do all that stuff and stay totally corrupt and never grow at all.

And when you get onto this feminine,

This divine feminine thing,

It is pretty impossible to,

You know,

It's pretty impossible not to grow and become more compassionate just by getting this bigger,

Making more room for the woman in you and for her,

Her heart,

For the Amma in you.

We all love Amma.

Let's make room for her.

Yeah.

And you're all brave souls.

And,

You know,

When I say this stuff,

I know it can be crushing and I don't mean it that way at all.

I'm just trying to crush the ego.

Yeah.

And,

You know,

Who doesn't want to please their teacher like Pramasutra wants to please Amma,

You know.

But I know the way to please Amma is just being really listening to what she says and then doing it as much as possible and being gentle with myself and forgiving with myself and compassionate with myself.

You know,

Once I was at a pivotal point on my journey,

And I could have moved into truth right then,

And I chose a five-year detour.

And I'll tell you,

I got this look from Amma,

Like this look from her of like,

We both know what you're doing.

We both know you're going to do it.

Like,

You guys,

You know,

You know,

This is what we're like.

But,

You know,

Unlike Amma,

Like Pramasutra hammers a bit more than Amma,

So,

You know.

But maybe,

Maybe this is useful too.

But anyway,

Well,

This has been an absolute joy,

You guys.

Yeah.

Brave souls.

And remember,

Many of you are on my prayer list.

And,

You know,

And you're in Amma's heart.

Remember,

You're in Amma's heart.

And when you think of Amma,

She sees your face.

Please remember that.

Yeah.

And you are never far away from the divine.

You are the divine.

Yeah.

And remember,

It's a magical time,

And it's really speeding up.

Okay.

Bye,

You guys.

Bye.

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