In Tune With Aluna Moon

So hi,

I'm Tom Evans,

And I'm thrilled today to be welcoming not one,

But two fellow meditation guides from Insight Timer,

Sam and Nick from Aluna Moon.

Hi there.

Hello.

How are you?

I'm good,

Thanks.

So just because we're doing a three way,

I'll just get I'll say to Sam,

You're in in lovely Essex in the UK.

As you just pointed out,

My Essex twang will come through in this recording.

Fantastic.

And Nicola,

You're over in Spain,

I believe.

Yeah,

Fuenki Roller in Spain.

Lovely.

And I've got builders next door to me banging away as well.

So excuse any audio quality.

We're going to finish this podcast with a meditation.

I want to explain what that is.

So if you're driving,

You can listen to this bit and about 30 minutes in pull over because we don't want you driving and meditating at the same time and that kind of thing.

But so how did you get to know each other?

What was the connection?

OK,

Yes.

So Nicola and I,

We actually first met each other when we were working as therapists.

So we used to work as hypnotherapists and we used to specialise in the field of chronic fatigue syndrome.

That's because we both had ME ourselves.

So that's why hence we went to specialise in that field.

So we sort of came across each other in that way,

Really.

And we always knew that we wanted to get into audios.

And we instantly connected from the minute we met each other.

It was,

You know,

It really was an amazing connection.

We hit it off straight away.

People quite often ask us why,

How we managed to maintain a harmonious relationship.

But it is,

You know,

Just easy for us.

Yeah,

So we were working as therapists.

We were seeing clients one to one.

We set up a clinic together.

And during that time,

We sort of brainstormed our future.

We always knew,

As I say,

That we wanted to get into audios.

And that's the beginning of it all.

And you've now got over two million listens on Insight Tiger.

That's phenomenal,

Isn't it?

Amazing.

Yeah,

I didn't even realise.

I looked up today because I thought you might ask us.

I couldn't even believe it.

I didn't even realise it was two million.

So that's amazing.

I think,

Actually,

Peaceful Sleep has got 1.

5 and then all the others add up to 500,

000.

But it's absolutely phenomenal.

We're so grateful and so humbled by it all and so happy to be part of the Insight Time community.

Isn't it phenomenal?

Yeah,

I'm only a mere 1.

3 listens,

Though,

A million listens.

1.

3 listens wouldn't be very good,

Would it?

So when did you go from,

Because my transition from what I was doing before meditation guiding,

Which is literally because Insight Time had discovered me,

That was how I got into this world.

What was your transition from therapy into meditation?

Yeah,

So we always had a passion for it.

And we were able to produce a few tracks and actually make them into apps.

So we originally started selling on the app store.

Peaceful Sleep was actually one of our first apps alongside the hypnobirthing app,

Carbohydrate Childbirth,

And a fertility app,

Female Fertility.

Those are still our most popular three apps.

And then from there,

We just transitioned into building more audios and published them into different platforms,

Audible,

Storytellers,

Worldwide now,

Really.

And Nicola,

You just heard about Insight Time one day,

Didn't you?

We put our Peaceful Sleep on there.

And before we knew it,

We had a few hundred thousand plays,

That was a couple of years ago.

And it just grew and grew without us really thinking about it or doing anything about it.

It just took off so magically and wonderfully.

Wonderful.

So it sounds like we've had a similar trajectory in that case.

Yeah.

So isn't it ironic then that an app,

Meditation Mindful,

Is all about awakening consciousness.

It seems to me that the most listened to meditations are the ones to do with sleep on the app,

Which is quite phenomenal.

So Nicola,

What's your thoughts on that?

Well,

I think it's one of those things,

Isn't it?

You know,

People are drawn to those sorts of apps.

There are many,

Many people struggling with various different things.

And I think something they all have in common,

They're searching for something.

And I think sleep is just,

You know,

One of those things that so many people struggle with.

And so for a meditation app like Insight Timer,

I can see how it's grown.

I think the more people,

The more users that that sort of app has as meditation and the subject of consciousness grows,

People are just drawn to that sort of app.

And yes,

I think sleep is just,

I think it's the biggest,

The biggest,

One of the biggest subjects on the app store.

I just think across the board,

All different,

You know,

Meditation,

Hypnotherapy,

Sleep is just something so many people struggle with.

And they're looking for a different way.

There's always a root cause,

Isn't there though?

So I think that's why people are always drawn to that sort of work.

Gosh,

And your background is obviously hypnotherapy.

I can tell that.

Listen to your meditations.

I can spot a hypnotic induction when I hear one,

Which is good.

But also,

I'm looking at your website,

You seem to be quite metaphysical and mystical,

Your soul sisters,

Seekers of the truth.

Definitely,

Very.

So can I just explore that angle with you?

Because that's what that's my passion,

All that kind of stuff.

So how do you,

What's your,

How do you dabble in the,

In the white art,

Should I say?

We just,

We just absolutely love that.

I personally spent some time in Panama.

I think when,

When I had ME,

I obviously,

That was what really sparked my journey to understanding the deeper root causes of then it was the illness and it just grew.

And I then spent some time in Panama,

Working with a shamanic medicine man.

And we were being ceremonies for hours.

And I just have such a passion for that way of life.

So really personally,

Both Sam and I,

We've both been on that path for,

You know,

Several years now.

And it's just something that clicks within us.

It's our favorite type of work.

We could,

You know,

If we had the time,

We both got young children,

But if we had the time,

We would just,

Yeah,

We could just continue to just create meditations,

Courses on that whole subject.

We just love it.

So how much time do you spend between creating the assets in a kind of one to many way and actually working in one to one with people nowadays?

Well,

We don't do one to one anymore.

You don't?

Only one to many?

That's phenomenal.

Yeah.

Yeah,

We,

I,

We sort of started off,

Didn't we,

Nick?

And then I went off to have my third child Poppy.

And then when I came back from maternity leave,

We then started the audio.

She's now nearly seven,

Six and a half.

And then sort of in between that time,

We've both had two children each.

So there's four children between us.

So we've always sort of dipped in and out of it whilst obviously wanting to spend as much time with our children as possible.

But yeah,

We,

We,

When we started to have the children,

We actually decided to fully focus on the audios and to leave the one to one aside.

Fantastic.

And have you got,

Just when anyone's listening that might be suffering from,

Emi,

Have you got any resources for someone in just doing that?

Yeah.

So we do actually have an app still,

Don't we,

Nick?

It's still there.

Yeah,

We do.

Yeah.

Remind me of the name,

Free Me.

Free Me.

It was our first one.

It was our first one years ago.

Of course.

Yeah.

It takes me back.

Yeah.

So Free Me on the App Store.

And that's a program that actually helps people with the emotional side or the emotional root of CFS,

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

So it looks at in a child work,

It looks at the three personalities,

The helper,

The achiever,

The approval seeker,

And the meditations complement that,

That personality.

Fantastic.

Now I see a lot of your works,

Obviously,

Historically,

You've worked in the remedial area where you've been maybe fixing someone that might have some sort of disease,

As we might call it.

But it looks like you also work on what I'd call generative stuff,

Where you take somebody that's kind of okay and make them even better.

Yeah,

I think that's actually to do with the mystical side of things,

Would you say,

Nick?

Yeah,

I feel,

I guess we did start out very remedial,

But someone would come with a fear,

Someone would come with a phobia,

Or someone would come with,

You know,

Back in the day,

We used to do a lot of quit smoking,

Didn't we?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think a lot of it has to do with our own personal journeys,

Because I think where you are in life,

It's natural then that your work is influenced by that.

So when we started making apps and recordings,

We were still seeing clients one to one.

So we were seeing the,

You know,

The people who wanted to come in,

You know,

The people who wanted to quit smoking,

And the people who came in,

And they did want,

If you,

You know,

For use of a better word,

Fixing.

And then as we took a step back,

And,

You know,

We naturally progressed along our path,

And we became more interested in the mystical side.

It's just natural then that when we're creative,

And when we're creating products,

That's what we pour into our work.

And we always feel that our work is channeled through us from something higher.

So we just move with whatever we feel intuitively at the time.

So even if we're writing a script,

Or we're recording a meditation,

It's always,

It always feels for us that it's coming through us,

And we're just the vessel.

So that's a really important part for us,

That it's authentic in that way.

Natural.

Yeah,

I feel as though creating products is very much the easiest part of our business.

Nicola and I could just create and create and create.

That's actually all we ever want to do.

Obviously,

There's a different side where,

You know,

When,

So I sort of take over the publishing side of things.

So I do all the metadata,

And each platform has its own system.

So there's sort of a lot of spreadsheets that we have to do,

And Nicola takes over the finances.

So but actually,

All we want to do is create because we find it so easy,

And it does just move through us.

It flows in such a natural way.

And we're so grateful for that.

We have so many ideas.

Yeah,

So many ideas and not enough time because we've both got young children.

Mine are only one and three.

Sam's little one has only just started school.

So our time is so limited.

So we have all of these ideas.

And then sometimes we just don't know when we're going to,

You know,

Get them done.

Yeah.

Well,

It's funny you said that because my course on insight time is called the art of time.

And how you how you get in the mental state,

You change the speed of time by changing the speed of your mind.

So we ought to swap notes.

You say your soul sisters,

I think I'm your long-lost soul friend.

I channel and do all that stuff.

I can't remember any of my own meditations.

I have to listen to them back to work out what was in them.

Same here.

Yeah.

So in the moment with that.

Fantastic.

So let's just talk about this channeling state then because funny enough,

I was running a course,

A live course yesterday.

I still do the odd one to one stuff.

I do a few one to many,

Many courses.

And I was teaching people how to get into the channeling state.

I would love to know how you found,

Did you just become a channel naturally through your hypnotherapy work?

I think for me,

Again,

It's natural.

I'm very interested in staying true to my intuition.

I've always felt that I'm a very intuitive person.

I guess I've just been aware of my intuition and I've been guided by that.

So things tend to move in waves with myself and Sam.

So for example,

Now,

You know,

Our energy is very much upon,

You know,

Creating a new course for insight timer,

A 30 day course.

So that's the energy we're in at the moment.

So when we come to write or when we come to record,

I think for us,

It's just about entering that state of stillness,

Really grounding ourselves and reminding ourselves of our intention and what we want to be behind this,

You know,

Energetically speaking.

And then something just happens and it does feel like something just opens up and the words pour through me.

I mean,

That's my experience of it.

I don't know what yours is,

Sam,

But it's just,

I don't do anything to get into that state.

It just happens naturally when I'm in the right place.

If I try and force anything,

So if I feel that there's something I need to write or record and I'm a little bit stressed because I've been busy with the kids and things like that,

If I go to do that and there's something sticking and there's that resistance there,

I leave it because I know that ultimately the most important thing is that I'm in the right space when I create that product.

So for me,

It's just very natural and it's all about being in the right place within myself.

It sounds like you're already 90% time full anyway,

In which case.

Okay.

So just always do that.

Yeah.

Well,

I was,

I go to about 130,

150%.

So when you change,

When you change the speed of time,

It actually does literally change.

So it's just,

It's just a little bit of a change.

So you can get things done.

You just have to download your course form,

That sounds perfect.

Well,

Listen,

Well on that note,

So just for people that are listening and don't know anything about Insight Time,

It's an absolutely free app.

The two million listens you've had,

The 1.

3 million listens I've had,

These are all free listens and it's always going to be free.

But we've got bills to pay,

Haven't we,

As meditation guides,

You've got children to feed and this sort of stuff.

And I've been really,

Really thrilled and excited that Insight Time have now bought some premium content out there in the form of courses.

You've got a 30 day one coming up and you've got a 10 day one.

Just explain what your 10 day course is about.

Yeah.

So this is called Master True Self-Esteem in 10 days.

Even though the title is about self-esteem,

It's very much not about a confidence boost,

But more about integrating with your full true self and how natural true self-esteem is the light of that.

So it's very much discussing insights,

Meditations on the difference between the true and the full self.

And by full self,

We mean the egoic part of us,

The mind control,

The chatter,

The negative thoughts,

The comparing,

The competing.

And the true self is sort of what Nicola was talking about in the last question where we feel inherently wise and fulfilled and at one,

That real sense of oneness.

So it's sort of the discussion between the two and how to live more within your true self.

And as a result of that,

Your natural true self-esteem will then be higher.

And can I ask you,

Because I'm thrilled with one of the aspects of the course that I didn't realize was going to be so good,

Is I've produced loads of courses over the last five or 10 years,

But the Insight Timer courses allow the students to ask questions of us as teachers and guides,

And us to come back with audio answers.

I don't know about your course,

But my course is now double the size of the one I uploaded because I've done so many answers.

I don't know about 100 answers.

And the answers are now bigger than the course.

Have you been using that feature?

Yeah,

It's amazing,

Isn't it?

That's one thing I love about Insight Timer is it seems like a very authentic app.

They really want you to engage with the listeners.

And it's wonderful because it gives us feedback.

It's lovely to hear what people are getting from the course.

It's lovely to hear what else they would need maybe that we hadn't have thought of.

And obviously the fact that they can just ask a question in the classroom and connect with us in that way.

I think that's a really beautiful thing.

And the others can see those questions as well.

And it might be something that they're thinking or feeling too.

So it creates a lovely sense of community.

It does.

So who would be the ideal person to take that course and where would they end up at the end of it?

Yeah,

I would say someone that I mean,

We sort of want to appeal to the right kind of person.

So it's less of a confidence boost.

And it is actually quite a mystical course.

So someone that is looking for that kind of self development,

Looking to live truly and authentically,

That would be the type of person that would probably benefit from the course.

Maybe somebody who's searching for something and they don't really know what.

Because as we say,

True self-esteem for us,

It's about stripping back because we're born with that amazing diamond and life happens and we receive all different sorts of conditioning about who we should be,

What we should do.

And we're basically saying,

You know,

True self-esteem,

True confidence is actually feeling at home in your own skin,

Authentically,

Truly you and giving yourself permission to just be who you were born to be.

We're all born with different gifts.

We all have so many different gifts to offer to this world.

And so that's what we really hope that people will get from our course,

Are coming home to themselves and as they truly are away from the expectations and the shoulds about who they are and what they should be doing in life really.

I think the more positive feedback has been that people do actually by the end of it tend to criticize themselves less.

I know that especially in this modern day world,

We can fall into the trap of either comparing or hating.

So actually taking your thoughts away from what other people are doing,

What other people have got,

How to be more of something more successful,

More beautiful,

More rich,

Whatever it is,

Stepping away from that material world and stepping back into the oneness that you inherently were born with and naturally have within you like the diamond that we go on to talk about in the meditation at the end of the session.

Wow.

So it sounds like someone might take the course because the presenting issue is so important.

Exactly.

Yes.

But actually discover who they are,

What they are,

And they'll actually find something they didn't even know they were looking for.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

And to be perfectly honest,

It has been a learning curve.

And we did actually even consider changing the title of the course because of that reason.

But that you've absolutely encapsulated that perfectly,

Tom,

It is exactly that way.

That was our intention when we chose that title.

I think going by our personal experience,

Our professional experience,

People see the issue as poor self-esteem,

But there's so much under that,

It's such a disconnection a lot of the time from who they really are.

And so that was our whole intention to invite people in and then help them progress along maybe a surprising journey back to themselves.

That's what we're about.

That's our biggest passion,

Helping people to come back to their true selves.

Wow.

And you've got another course here,

A 30-day course here,

Brittany.

What's that one about?

Yes.

So this is,

I mean,

Nicola and I just are palpable with excitement about it because it is absolutely our passion.

I mean,

It does get a little bit mystical here,

Tom,

So I won't warn you.

The Zone show is all about woo-woo.

So we can turn the woo-woo up to 12 quite acceptably.

I love all that stuff.

So yeah,

No,

It's only because it's on the spiritual gifts of the female cycle.

And there is a lot of taboo around the menstrual cycle.

So that's sort of why I've pre-informed any of your listeners.

But it's about connecting to the four stages of the menstrual cycle and life cycle through the means of archetype.

So we talk about the fourfold goddess,

Which we have based on ancient teachings,

But we adapted it to suit the modern day woman.

And these archetypes are the warrior,

The creator,

The sorceress,

And the oracle.

And it's all very much about women understanding the shifts in mood of their cycle,

Reaching their full potential as a woman.

Men are always welcome,

But obviously it's pertinent to women.

And really standing in their true power.

It's a 30-day course.

It's called Goddess Awakening,

The Power of the Female Cycle.

And we are recording it in the moment.

I spent some time in the recording studio yesterday.

Nicola,

You're about to embark on your recording journey,

Aren't you?

You know,

We've seen how it's transformed our lives as well,

Just understanding the different energies that women hold.

Men and women are completely equal,

Of course,

But we are different in some ways.

We do have a cycle.

We are up and down at times.

And we would love to teach women to work with these energies and see the gifts,

See the gifts that come from that,

That not only come from the phases where we're energetic and we're doing,

But the times when our body and our energy is saying just to retreat and to sit back,

You know,

That's a much more mystical,

Intuitive space to be and just so incredibly powerful.

So there's lots of teachings,

Meditations in the course,

And it could change the way a woman views herself,

Her cycle and her life forever.

It has us.

This is why,

You know,

We want to put that out there.

We feel that it's very much needed in this patriarchal society just to help women understand themselves so much more deeply in a more ancient,

Mystical way.

We love that word.

We love the mystical.

So do we.

And in my timefulness course is a distillation of a bigger program I've got called Managing Time Mindfully,

Or Mindfulness Space Time Management,

I should say.

And in there,

I do lots on moon phase.

Oh,

Did you?

Exactly.

Wow.

And the four quarters of the moon phase and the archetypal,

The creative,

The formation and the material world that map into your archetypes.

But I can't help but noticing it's a 30 day course.

But why isn't it a 27 day course?

Yeah,

I mean,

That's mad about that one.

But yeah,

I think set off of the structure of the course that we've been given.

But it actually gave us an amazing opportunity to Yeah,

Absolutely is 27 days,

28 days,

Although a lot of women cycle don't actually completely match the cycle of the moon,

Which we do talk about as well.

But it actually gave us a few extra chapters to explore other subjects that tie into that,

But we still feel passionate about.

So we do talk about the new moon,

The full moon,

And the power of sisterhood.

So actually,

It was brilliant.

And I really got so passionate towards the end about writing about,

You know,

How women should be looking out for each other,

How they should be inspiring each other,

Supporting each other.

And that was the final couple of chapters of the course.

So actually,

It worked out perfectly.

Well,

You know,

I'm going to give you a bit of a sales tip here.

And also a bit of a gauntlet thrown down for groups that have women that are listening to this.

If you were to take this course,

All together in phase,

How powerful that would be.

So let's say a group of three,

Four,

10 women all got together and started day one together.

And think through would that not be really powerful?

Amazing.

I,

You know,

I've set up a women's circle out here and there is something so amazing about women joining together.

And something we explore in the circle that I'm just in personally,

Is about our cycle and our connection with the moon.

And we meet every new moon and full moon.

And,

You know,

I'm in Spain.

So,

You know,

The last full moon,

I'm bathing in the ocean under the full moon.

And yeah,

And it is just incredible.

And it's something so simple yet so powerful.

It's ancient.

These are ancient teachings with a modern twist.

Yeah,

That's exactly how it is.

It's for the modern day women.

Yeah,

Completely.

Yeah.

And people don't realize that,

You know,

We're 70,

80 percent water.

The moon affects the water on earth.

It affects our consciousness.

Absolutely.

You know,

You can be more creative at certain different phases of the moon as well.

And it's a good time to do certain things.

I use it for project management.

So,

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's got a masculine real world getting things done aspect to it as well.

Definitely.

Yeah,

Exactly.

And I think this is,

You know,

Part of our course.

If we look at the phases that women tend to reject,

They're the phases where it is about retreating and taking some time out.

But again,

It's this expectation a lot of the time that women feel to keep going,

Keep doing,

Working,

Mothering,

Socializing,

You know,

It's the go,

Go,

Go.

But,

You know,

Men and women alike,

You know,

Can feel the pressure of.

But we help women.

Well,

We hope to help women in this course to become friends with those phases within and to trust the cycle of things.

And that just as there is a time to be up,

A time to be planning and working really hard and staying up late,

Equally as powerful and important is the time when we take a few days to just rest and retreat and journey within,

Within to our intuitive self.

Wonderful.

And are you getting involved with this other new feature on Insight Time or the Daily Insight?

We are.

Yeah,

You've just done that there,

Haven't you?

Yeah,

I've just recorded that last night.

Yeah,

We've done a mindfulness for stress relief.

So we have,

Yeah,

A mindfulness track,

A five minute version,

10 minute and 20 minute.

So that's done now.

And then we've also done another one,

Haven't we,

For the curated list,

The Sleep Soother.

Yeah,

Yeah.

We've set that across as well.

So there's a couple new ones out there coming soon.

So if anyone's listening,

What's happened then is each of us as guides sort of has a daily insight on a particular day and we're there to also answer,

I think we're doing audio answers to the questions on those as well.

Oh,

Great.

Yeah,

Yeah.

So we might be texting on the answers,

But the idea is I think is that we are then just holding the space for that meditation for that day.

Oh,

Okay.

It sounds great.

I love the way that the guides are innovating with new features,

But also keeping the essence of the free there as well,

Which is really important,

Isn't it?

Oh,

It's brilliant.

And they're so passionate about that,

Aren't they?

They're so,

You know,

They want to keep the app completely free.

They don't want to start charging people for what they've been using for free.

So I love the idea of,

You know,

To see it growing and all of these new features and new meditations,

New teachers,

I think it will just grow and grow.

I mean,

Where it will be in a couple of years,

It'll be just amazing to see.

Well,

Let's talk about that.

Because two years from now is,

Is 26 more moon rotations.

So what do you think you're going to be?

Where do you think you're going to be in 13 more moon rotations?

Do you think?

Oh,

My goodness.

Well,

We just,

You know,

We finish one phase and then,

You know,

We have,

Okay,

So our focus now is a 30 day course.

And then we think,

Okay,

We'll have a little,

A little break after that.

But now that there's more ideas.

So I will,

Oh,

I don't know how many courses we'll have,

But there'll be more recordings,

More apps,

More courses,

More free meditations on Insight Timer,

A book in the future.

That's one of our longer term plans,

Actually,

Based on the same subject as our next 30 day course.

So the female,

The cycle,

Working with the moon,

Working with the phases.

So that will happen at some point,

Maybe when the kids are a little bit older in a couple of years,

And we have some time to write.

But yeah,

I'm not trying not to get too attached to results.

I mean,

Nita and I,

That has definitely been one of our learning curves.

We are quite naturally sort of punching and goal driven and motivated,

Which is a good thing.

But also,

We have in the past,

Probably got a bit too attached to results.

So that's definitely being part of our self development journey,

Actually,

Just to completely let go and to be able to do that.

Completely let go and allow the work to flow through us and wherever it takes us is wherever it's supposed to.

Absolutely lovely to hear.

It's been great to meet you all after so long.

We've been orbiting around each other for about a year or so now.

And I think we should do is maybe connect in a few more moon cycles and have another chat when these other features start to release and the next work starts to come through.

Certainly when your book's out,

We'd love to talk to you about that.

And you said very kindly,

You can share a meditation with us as well.

Before we do that,

Where's the best place for people to find you in on the interweb?

I mean,

There's a few places.

Our biggest platform is Insight Timer.

You can find us under the words Aluna Moon,

That's our company name.

But we have a website,

Which is Alunamoon.

Com.

You can find us on the App Store.

Again,

Search for Aluna Moon.

I mean,

We're all across the board really,

Audible,

Storytel,

We're in quite a few places.

But I guess our website is where we've got,

You know,

Products for sale.

And you can find out where else we are.

But that's it,

Everywhere worldwide.

Wonderful.

You're hard not to find.

Now,

I couldn't help when you said that out loud.

As a fellow hypnotherapist,

I couldn't help but hear the phonological ambiguity in Aluna Moon.

So you got Luna,

And also Luna is Latin for Luna as well.

What does the Luna mean for you guys?

Well,

We actually had to change our name,

Didn't we?

Yeah,

This was something else originally.

We originally,

The name then became part of a terrorist group.

So we couldn't actually then use it.

It was ISIS was part of the original name.

But yeah,

As in goddess ISIS.

And we had to change it.

So we,

You know,

We pondered upon what to be called.

So Aluna is a special word for us,

Again,

Like with the shamanic medicine that we delved into for a while.

Aluna means the great mother.

Yeah,

So Aluna.

And obviously moon,

Feminine in nature,

Obviously,

The moon and the cycles and everything.

Yeah,

And it just felt like the right name for us.

In the middle,

There's Namor,

Which is inspired by Kundalini practices as well.

So in the middle of Aluna Moon is the word that the two yeah,

That's a bit faster.

Oh,

I hope I'm still on.

Am I still on?

You are.

It just went off for a minute.

So yeah,

That that's how we became inspired to call ourselves Aluna Moon.

Phenomenal,

Phenomenal.

So you're very kindly going to share a five minute excerpt from your 10,

Your 10 day course,

They had to improve your self esteem.

And so anyone that's driving,

Pull over right now or pause,

They don't listen to this because these wonderful ladies will make you not often go to sleep and get into the trance state.

That's what they do for a living.

So just tell us about what this why you chose in this excerpt.

Yeah,

So this is actually from my new 10 day course master to self esteem.

And it's day five,

I believe it's part of the finding a diamond meditation.

It's about five minutes long.

And the intention of this sample is to connect you with unravel,

Remember the beautiful diamond within and how that connects you to your true self.

Fantastic.

Thanks for sharing.

So we'll see each other in a few more moon rotations.

Definitely.

Oh,

Thank you so much for having us.

It's been a real pleasure.

Yeah,

It's been fun.

And best of luck with the insights,

The new course and the existing course and all the wonderful magical work you do.

Thank you.

And you.

I wonder now if you can imagine walking through a forest in your mind's eye,

High up on a mountain in an ancient world somewhere.

Feeling safe and secure.

It's almost a magical place.

And you have a sense that something great is about to happen.

Although you're not quite sure what that is yet.

And you are walking along a well trodden path.

Many people have walked here over thousands of years.

You can feel rising energy from the earth.

Moving through your feet and into your body.

Feeling a connection with mother earth below.

You notice trees on either side of the path.

Standing tall.

And strong.

Creating a strength and security inside of you.

You can hear the sound of birds singing and the sound of a gentle breeze running through the leaves of the trees.

Whispering to you.

And after a while,

And who knows how long a while is during this state of relaxation,

You notice the path stops.

And ahead is a wooden bridge,

Which links to where you stand now and the other side of the mountain.

And you can feel the energy flowing through your body.

And you can feel the energy flowing through you.

And you can feel the energy flowing through the ground now and the other side of the mountain.

I wonder how you feel about this bridge and the idea of crossing over to the other side.

As you look ahead,

You notice a wise old man waiting for you across the bridge.

You feel a sense of trust towards this wise old man and look forward to being in his presence.

If and when you are ready,

You can imagine taking that first step across the bridge.

There is a strong rope on either side to help you.

And as you move forwards,

Your confidence grows and you move easily across,

Taking one step at a time,

Moving towards the wise old man.

Crossing beautifully and effortlessly.

Until you make that last step and there you are,

You've done it.

As you step onto the other side,

The scenery is still the same,

But you feel different.

Calm,

Clear,

Relaxed,

At ease within yourself.

You notice the wise old man in front of you and can't help but feel touched by his serenity.

An inner peace radiates from him and you soak up his energy.

You smile at each other and you know you are in the presence of the other.

You smile at each other and you know you are in the presence of something very beautiful.

He then reaches for your hand and inside of it he places the most beautiful crystal.

It's the most beautiful crystal you have ever seen.

Shimmering and sparkling.

Every colour of the spectrum.

I believe this belongs to you,

He says.

His words so gentle and loving.

Thank you,

You reply.

There is a deep understanding and respect between you.

You hold the crystal in your hand and feel the energy of it moving up through your arm and into your heart.

You make a commitment to yourself to look after it.

As it's so precious,

Unique and beautiful,

Just as you are.