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Advaita says you don't need to get rid of any past impressions to see that you are the knower.
Right now,
You are the knower.
So right now Geeta is speaking to Ekta.
Geeta is looking at the computer and she's nodding her head.
She's looking through the eyes.
Sound is coming through the ears.
The mind knows this.
Yes?
Yes.
The mind is saying yes.
Does the knower know that?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
So you are aware that the knower is there.
Yes.
He wasn't manufactured this last weekend.
He was always there.
He was ignored a little bit but he was always there.
So the knower is there.
This knowingness,
This awareness,
This knower.
This we have to explore a little bit more.
This knowingness,
What is it?
What is it made of?
I don't know.
It is there.
I don't know.
How big is it?
Can you establish a limit to it?
No.
Yeah.
It's limitless.
It is there.
And what is it made of?
Nothing.
There is no thing there.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Yeah.
So its quality is that it is devoid of things.
Whether those things are physical or even mental.
Mind objects are thoughts,
Feelings,
Perceptions or sensations.
Okay.
It is devoid of all that.
Very clear about your till now.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
So now we have finished the second one.
We have understood the nature or the quality of this knowingness.
Now the third leg.
Now that I have understood this knowingness,
I take it back into my world for whatever.
Family,
Friends,
Work,
Whatever you do.
This person standing in front of me,
The office,
This person.
Do I really know that there is a person standing there?
Yeah.
The person is standing in front of me.
Yes.
I see him.
I hear him.
Yes.
Okay.
What is your experience?
Just seeing and hearing on that basis.
You're saying that the person is there.
Correct?
Yes.
Same and hearing.
Yes.
Now let's examine what is seeing.
Seeing is nothing else but shape and color.
There's no third aspect of seeing.
It is just shape and color.
That also for the human eye.
For a bat,
He doesn't even have that.
Yeah.
So for a human eye,
It is shape and color.
What is hearing?
Sound waves.
Sound waves.
Yes.
Shapes,
Color and sound waves together go to the mind.
The mind processes it and says that there is a person in front of you that is speaking.
Yeah.
This is the person gives a label.
Yes.
Yeah.
So this is called perceiving through sight and perceiving through sound.
Very clear.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At the moment,
Perceiving is happening.
Isn't knowing happening at the same time?
Yeah.
Because of the knowing,
I'm able to perceive.
Correct.
So there is no difference between perceiving and knowing.
Yes.
No difference.
So perceiving is made up of knowingness.
Okay.
So okay.
Now this person that is standing here in front of me,
I know only perception and sensation.
Yes,
But I have to start.
So perception is made of knowing this sensation is the same made up of knowing.
Yes.
So this person is also nothing else but knowing this.
It is so clear.
You have assumed the rest.
I have perception of this object.
I don't.
The of this object is an assumption is an intellectual assumption.
In my pure experiencing,
There is just perception and the sensation that it creates.
So this is the perception and the sensation that it creates.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
This of this object is an intellectual assumption.
A little baby just born.
He does not know the object.
It just experiences the perception and the corresponding sensation created.
Yes.
There is no conditioning in the mind of the baby.
What this object is,
Whether it is an object or not.
No.
We all experience advice,
Pure experience,
No intellectual reasoning,
No philosophy,
No conditioning.
From my pure experience,
All I know of this objective world is my own perception and my own sensation of the objects and perception and sensation is not different from knowingness,
Which I have already established.
Yes.
Okay.
So then everything is just knowingness.
It's so simple.
I know.
I know that there is that.
Yeah.
It's the ego that comes up and says,
No,
No,
No,
But you have understood this.
You have assumed this.
You have not this.
This conditioning is there.
So this conditioning created later on as a little infant,
Even Geeta as a little infant just had perception and sensation and that's all you experience.
That's it.
That was pure experiencing.
There is no conditioning.
Conditioning comes later on.
The intellectual condition.
I did not say that the world is not real.
That is a wrong understanding and a wrong explanation by the lazy sages who could not say the full sentence.
Do you remember this?
I said this.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Yeah.
The real,
The full sentence is the word as I perceive it is an illusion.
Jagat mithya.
That also I agree and I understand that completely that I don't see things as they are,
But when you say that is also knowingness,
How can that knowingness come with all its shortcomings?
Again,
That is my whole perception of those shortcomings.
The knowingness has forgotten itself and become this mind and it goes into the world and perceives the shortcomings.
It has created its shortcomings itself.
This knowingness only remembers itself and comes back and then it knows the truth.
That's how the ego starts crumbling.
That's how the mind starts dissolving.
That's how dispassion arises.
Yes.
And a person gets more and more established as the Lord.
So you have to keep going back,
Keep going back and the question to ask is,
Am I aware?
Yes.
