Real Heroes Listen To Their Hearts

I'm going to ask for Amma's grace as we do this,

For all of us.

And if we all ask for her grace,

To feel the Creator's grace,

To feel it in our lives,

In our bodies,

In our experience,

To open up to the love,

The loving truth of all that is.

There's nothing for us to defend ourselves against.

It's all love.

Yeah.

And the purer we become,

The more centered in truth we become,

The more able we are to receive grace.

Yeah.

Ah,

Bless your hearts.

So,

It's a question and answer today,

But there is something I wanted to mention,

Which is,

Keep your eyes open for your progress,

To be able to see your progress and validate it.

Please,

It's very important.

So many of you are so critical of yourselves in that religious,

I'm a miserable sinner way,

That you don't realize.

You just think it's factual.

But Prema Sudha looking at you goes,

Oh,

That's the religiosity,

That's the miserable sinner stuff.

But you know,

We get over it when we get over it.

It takes time.

But the focus on receiving the grace will help.

Well,

I had a beautiful example.

So,

It was coming back from Germany.

And,

You know,

I had a choice of two security guys to go to.

And I made the wrong one.

You know,

As soon as I chose the lineup,

Another security guy came and he brought eight people to the front of the line.

But it was okay.

It was okay.

It's like,

These things happen.

Well,

It turns out the security guy was a very,

Very by the book,

Kind of a vicious guy with no sense of humor.

And he was instructing everybody to death.

So,

Prema Sudha had this,

I had this sort of plan for how to,

I had all the liquids and my phones in sort of different bags that were tied to my backpack.

It was just sort of the simplest way to go through,

I thought.

Well,

He didn't like this at all.

It was just too kind of individual.

It was like not allowed.

So,

With very,

You know,

Serious face,

He instructed me that I'd done it and everything.

So,

I'm like,

Well,

You know,

It's all,

Everything's ama,

Like,

Oh,

Well,

Absolutely no charge.

And I had kind of a good humor to it.

And,

You know,

So,

As we were like unpacking all my categories and the stuff that I'd worked so hard to do,

And he was putting it in his,

The right way.

And he,

I could feel that he felt no charge coming from me.

And he looked up at one point,

He looked up,

And he just gave me this sweet smile,

Like,

Just like a five-year-old kid.

And I thought to myself,

Like,

Premasutha was so pleased to see this.

And I thought to myself,

Wow,

Premasutha,

You've come a long way.

Because I'll tell you,

In the old days,

I would have been tense,

Humiliated,

Furious,

Felt caught like a rat in a rat trap.

I would have just had this intense reaction to this kind of thing.

And I went,

Ah,

This is so worth it,

Coming into freedom.

Just keep going,

You guys,

Just keep going.

The great joy of having this very officious security guy,

Give me this smile like a five-year-old.

It's like,

Yeah.

Anyway,

I thought I'd tell you that story.

Please look to your personal experience,

Because our heads will take us into,

You know,

A labyrinth.

But it's,

It's when we come back to our bodies,

We feel our feelings,

Our emotions,

We witness our progress in the human form,

That we really can start coming into our hearts more.

Yeah.

And you're so precious,

You guys.

And it's so sad,

Sometimes,

For Pramasutha to see how sometimes you can't see this.

But I was the same way,

And there's no criticism at all.

It's just like having children.

Some of us do have children that are too hard on themselves.

So that's how Pramasutha feels with you guys.

Yeah.

But I'll tell you,

This last visit to Germany,

It's like the shifts were just amazing.

So it was thrilling for Pramasutha.

So anyway,

Any questions or comments,

Please come forward.

It's Erin.

I have a question.

So I've been listening to the satsangs.

And in one of them,

You talked about,

By doing this work,

Those of us have children.

It helps our children energetically or heal also.

And I was curious about that.

Okay.

Erin,

Do you have children?

I do.

I have a daughter.

And how old is she?

33.

So I wonder,

Does it still impact when they're grown and out of the house and all the things?

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

Yeah,

It's,

You know,

You know,

Carl Jung said that the greatest cause of pain for all of us is the unlived lives of our parents.

Especially,

I feel the mom,

The state of the mom is really important,

Just because we're so close to our kids.

And this is so hard for we women,

You know,

We'll go into guilt and everything like so quickly,

But don't.

You won't be able to,

Like,

I can't say to you that your daughter is going to phone you up and say,

In six months,

You know,

And go,

Wow,

I'm feeling so happy for no particular reason.

I can't.

But what I've witnessed with my kids is that even as adults,

They,

You know,

They,

I would say they shift when I shift.

Partly,

I'd say that because actually,

We are everyone.

You see,

Everything is one.

So we're actually all making the same shift at the same time.

But,

You know,

I've seen for years,

When the kids were young,

And as they became older,

That when I was going through hard times,

They would too.

Yeah.

So the thing that's really important is make the hard times work for you.

You know,

Don't circulate in darkness so much as let the hard times teach you.

Yeah.

So that you find your own heart.

Because if you're speaking to your children from more truth,

It'll be carried by the words you say.

Do you know?

Yeah,

I mean,

I remember,

Oh,

I'll tell you something from my own life is,

You know,

When I got married to Peter,

Within six months,

My mom had started divorce proceedings with my father.

Now,

My really strong feeling about it was that since I had married a difficult man who was a bully,

Her daughter,

Now me,

Had taken over the post in the family.

You see what I mean?

That since I was doing it now,

She could say,

Okay,

I'm off duty.

I'm heading off to the wild blue yonder.

Yeah.

And that's an example of it in reverse.

So imagine,

You know,

If my mom had moved into truth,

I probably wouldn't have even married Peter.

Really.

Yeah.

We women,

We have tremendous,

Tremendous power,

But it's not for us to feel like that we're obligated to,

You know,

Fix our children or our obligation is just to live our own lives as truly as possible and to allow the healing.

That's a really good question,

Aaron.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I have one.

So thank you.

And I have one other one.

So I've been,

I've been learning about how you speak to when fear comes up to observe it.

Yes.

Good.

And that has been very helpful.

I'm learning.

It's early days.

It's very,

Very helpful.

I'm grateful for that instruction.

Aaron,

That's like,

That is like going zero to a hundred.

I mean,

If you can observe your fear,

That's,

That will start.

That is what reduces our fear.

Being able to observe it and see it clearly is what reduces it.

You guys,

This is the importance of witnessing.

Yeah.

Now when fear is leaving your body and leaving your psyche and you are really moving into more truth,

What will happen is you'll witness your fear and you will feel like there are six tanks coming straight at you that you're standing on a street,

Unable to run.

And there's six tanks coming your way.

Yeah.

To,

To basically run you over.

But if you just keep staying with the experience,

You know,

Asking for grace,

Witnessing it is that terrible feeling will lift and you'll start realizing that it was all smoke and mirrors,

That there's no problem after all.

This has happened to Premasuddha many,

Many times where it would look catastrophic.

And I'd witness.

Yeah.

And then it would lift.

Yeah.

Thank you.

And I was on the prayer list for health things and I'm feeling so much better.

So I'm grateful.

Oh,

Erin,

That's great.

There were a lot of kind of Kundalini related symptoms that you were talking about.

I think I emailed you about that,

Right?

Good.

Thank you very much.

The deeper meaning.

This is how,

When you get,

When you get,

When you come to this kind of work and you get it emotionally,

As you have,

You actually go right to the heart of the spiritual journey.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's really,

Really good.

Thank you.

Yeah.

And all the people who've been on the journey for a long time,

Just asked to be able to go to the heart of the journey,

Because this is what this work's about.

And the heart of it is in the repressed way of the feminine.

It's in our,

It's in our understanding of our emotions.

It's all the things we've run from.

So if you,

If you start opening up and embracing your emotion and your emotional nature,

You will get huge amounts of information,

Huge amounts of knowledge coming quite quickly.

And this is,

I,

Pramasutra feels is a big hope for the world,

Is when especially women open to it,

They're going to get it really quickly,

Really,

Really quickly.

And that could really change the world.

Yeah.

I'm grateful.

Thank you so much.

Well,

Pramasutra is very grateful to,

To you guys for,

For engaging in this.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Good question.

I got your book.

It comes tomorrow.

I'll read it.

The Spiritual Psychology book?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

But my sternum,

The left side of my rib cage.

Right.

And both wrists around the thumb.

I know I've got stuff going on physiologically,

But I feel like there's a lot more to it.

It's kind of come to an increase in the past two days.

Right,

Right,

Right,

Right,

Right,

Right.

Okay.

Okay.

I can,

I can feel this,

You know,

Sometimes when we,

We're making big change in our relationships with our family,

We're clearing,

You know,

We're,

We're stepping out of some of the,

The family patterns.

Okay.

What will happen is we start clearing them inside ourselves.

We start feeling the clearing of these patterns in our bodies.

And I can feel kind of dense,

Intense.

It can feel like it's a,

It's a deep thing going on.

It can feel like a deep kind of obstructing feeling.

There's,

Yeah.

Very consolidated,

Not diffuse.

Yeah.

I think it's because of the levels that you're clearing in your,

It's levels of emotional complexes that you've been,

You know,

Involved in with people.

Now you're stepping back.

And so they're coming up to be cleared within you.

Okay.

All the stuff we see in our family,

You guys,

It's in us.

Yeah.

It's our complexes.

It may be them too.

But you know,

Our point of power is ourselves.

So,

Yes.

So Cindy,

This feels good.

And the fact that you're saying your mantra like that constantly,

That is the best thing you can do.

Pray and say your mantra really constantly.

That will speed your progress.

It's like,

I'm listening to my body and what it has to tell me all the time now,

Instead of,

Oh,

I can do this.

Let me push it down and get more done.

No,

No.

Yeah.

Good.

My,

My soul and Ama are telling me to slow down and just listen.

And when I do that,

And when I'm doing the mantra,

I feel so good.

My,

My legs tingle,

My sternum tingles.

Okay.

I just feel content and peaceful and joyful.

Okay.

So tingles are like signs of life.

Okay.

That is what has been numb.

So that's incredibly clear feedback you're getting Cindy.

Thank you.

I have another question for you.

Yeah,

Please.

It's a shift,

Correct?

And a clearing for myself,

Me clearing myself.

Would I be helping my,

My adult children,

Just from a distance,

Help them not deal with mom's stuff,

Help them move out of it.

Okay.

And not be so trapped in the generational responses.

Right.

Okay.

So does that make sense?

Yes,

Totally.

So when you listen to this again,

You'll hear that you shifted out of being centered in yourself into the doer,

Who's going to get a particular outcome,

Like fix your children.

Now,

This is well,

No,

I'm not.

Okay,

You're right.

You are your voice.

Everybody.

I'll hear it when I hear it again.

Yeah,

I just,

Yeah,

It's so subtle.

I mean,

You come to me for freedom,

Right?

So I,

I draw your attention to every you're right.

Okay,

Thank you.

Right.

Okay,

Good.

Okay,

That was a beautiful surrender there that you just opened.

To learn.

Yeah,

That it's an expression of my guilt.

Yeah,

It was.

But you don't.

There's no reason to feel guilty.

It's like,

We're all human parents.

We're all human,

You guys.

Our kids come to be imprinted in the way that we imprinted them.

It's true.

Yeah.

No,

I know.

But you growing,

Bringing this piece in,

Which,

Cindy,

I feel that you will just keep doing and you're,

You're bringing in in a very direct,

Clear way.

That will help them over the ethers.

It'll,

It'll help clear their auras just as a byproduct without you having to do anything.

But I just,

I just feel like in all of my relationships,

There's a calming.

Yes.

And like,

I have a bunch of Alma sisters,

And they're funny,

But it's calm.

It's peaceful.

Right.

And in all of my interactions,

Like,

Like you said,

With the TSA guy that you had,

I had a prescription delivery that was kind of messed up.

And I mean,

I'm like,

Alma's,

Alma's grace,

It came great.

And I just looked up,

This guy was like a foot taller than me.

And I just looked up in his face.

And it was like you said,

It was just a beautiful,

Open,

Spiritually open smile.

And I swear I would have hugged him,

But I was so taken aback by somebody who understood,

Just an angel showing up in my life.

It was just beautiful.

But anyway,

I asked the motivation for the question was,

I feel this peace.

When I think of my children,

I have their flowers that we picked out for each of them when they were little girls on my Alma altar.

And I just feel peace.

And I just pray that they feel it too.

They don't need to come back to me.

It's going to be what Alma determines it's going to be.

I just pray for,

For them to find peace for themselves and joy and happiness on their spiritual journey.

Okay,

Sweetie.

Yeah.

I just want to remind you of something Alma said.

Yeah,

When I was last in the ashram,

And she said,

You know,

To moms,

Don't think about your adult children.

Okay.

I mean,

I have no idea why she said this,

But Pramasutra knows from her own experience that sometimes I would think of my kids and I would think of them as like having wounding and difficulty when really they're divine beings.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Alma's already got them.

That's the thing.

We are one.

Alma's already got them.

Yeah.

My young,

I'll say one more thing and I'll be quiet because there's a lot of people here who need to talk.

My youngest daughter's birthday was a week ago and I start feeling depressed like two days in advance.

And I didn't this time.

And on her birthday,

I mean,

I honored her.

I remembered her.

And then I went on with doing things for me,

But I didn't feel shame.

I didn't feel destroyed.

I just felt grateful that she was on the earth.

So good things are happening.

I just have a lot to learn and I appreciate you teaching me and everybody else here.

Oh,

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you,

Pramasutra.

Thank you for such good questions and comments.

Yeah.

Right on.

Yeah.

Really.

This is the live journey,

You guys.

Awesome.

Just before this satsang began,

I got a really strong feeling that everybody was going to be able to start feeling their feelings more,

Like significantly more,

To open your feelings,

To feel more present in your bodies,

To be able to even feel more emotions without getting bothered.

Yeah.

It was,

I mean,

It just surprised me.

It was sort of like,

Just this is what's going to happen for these people.

Okay,

Let's go.

Sounds good to me.

Hi,

Pramasutra.

It's Ruth-Anne.

Yeah,

Ruth-Anne.

Sweetie,

Where are you?

I'll find you.

There you are.

Hi.

Hi.

Sweet one.

Yeah.

It's interesting you said that.

It's interesting as well,

What Aaron brought up.

Because when you left for Germany,

I thought,

Oh gosh,

That's,

You know,

A long time,

Month or so.

So I decided I would intend to feel my body more,

Like my inner body more,

Be more aware of it during the day when I'm with people.

And of course,

It didn't always happen.

But the times that I was aware of it,

It was interesting.

It was like I was having a conversation with someone and I was still feeling the inside of my body.

And I kind of thought,

Well,

Am I giving my full attention to this person?

Because I'm also sensing the inside of my body at the same time.

And I just sort of let that go and I had the conversation.

But the one thing I noticed when I would sit and just feel my,

The sensing inside was the bottom of my feet was the most prominent,

The whole bottom of my feet,

And they would be tingling quite strongly.

I would feel everywhere else,

But that was the most prominent and I didn't know why.

Oh,

I love it.

What's wrong?

Okay,

No,

No,

No,

I love it.

You know,

No,

No,

No,

No,

I think this is,

Have you,

Have you finished speaking?

Is there more to say or not?

Okay.

And no,

I mean,

There's so much stuff physically in there that happened during the month,

But way too many things for this avenue.

So I just wanted,

That was more interesting because it was not just once,

It was all the time.

Okay.

That would be the most prominent feeling.

Okay.

So first point about you're keeping one eye on the inside while you're even engaged with another person speaking,

That is presence.

That,

You know,

Amma talks about that we should all be living like a pregnant woman with one eye on the inside and one eye on the outside.

So sweetie,

That's a slam dunk.

It,

You know,

It's,

It's new.

So you're,

You were,

You know,

Kind of wondering about it,

But that is real progress.

The other thing you were talking about,

What was the other thing?

Oh yeah,

Your feet,

Sweetie.

Bottom of my feet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Jingles are coming alive.

They're where you moving out of numbness.

Okay.

So feet are,

You know,

We worship Amma's feet.

We worship the Guru's feet.

Premasuddha feels that this imagery is that we're worshiping the understanding of the Guru.

The fact that the Guru is lodged in universal mind and we're,

You know,

Our egos are bowing their heads to this and saying,

Please,

Please,

I surrender to this way of living and realization and universal mind.

So feet are,

Okay,

Think of the word understanding.

It's under your standing.

Do you understand?

Yeah,

Yeah.

Your feet are,

The bottom of your feet is under your standing.

Yes.

So Abraham used to say that,

You know,

When feet relaxed,

When your feet relaxed and became wider,

That that was a really good sign.

That was somebody moving into a more organic,

True understanding.

Yeah.

I'm just adding this thing about the feet and the tension.

If you've ever held,

Sometimes when people get older,

Their feet,

Especially if they haven't done much work,

Their feet get very,

It's like they're tense,

Very tense,

Stiff feet,

Like a little bit rigor mortis.

But if a person keeps,

You know,

Keeps a love-based,

Lived understanding,

This is Prama Sutta's experience.

Their feet have a softness long into old age,

A softness,

A relaxation long into old age.

Our bodies are always showing us how we live our lives,

You guys.

It's so simple that we miss it.

Yeah.

So Ruthann,

I think this is all very good news.

You are right on track.

And it's like I say,

When people get this work emotionally,

They can get big spiritual steps all in one.

It's like Amma says that,

You know,

She says that women can really evolve quickly.

Yeah.

And I think it's partly for the preservation of the species,

You know,

Actually.

Yeah.

Well,

Thank you.

That's good news then.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Ruthann,

You're right on track.

This is such good questions for everybody.

This will be really making things clear for people,

How simple it is.

How simple.

And,

You know,

Our souls are closer than close.

And when we're in the ego,

Our souls feel on the other side of the universe.

So when you open,

And it's like closer than close,

The information just gets transmitted to you.

It's what you knew all along underneath anyway.

Yeah.

It's very beautiful.

This is a very beautiful sad saying.

Premasutra is very touched.

Yeah.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah.

This is helping everybody.

All these questions.

Yeah.

And it's a return to our humanity as well,

You guys.

Yeah.

And the human experience,

The human experience of bringing in our divine natures,

We have to bring it in through our humanity.

Spiritual masters are profoundly human.

They're just loving.

They laugh at themselves.

Hello,

Everybody.

Sweet one.

Nice to see you.

Thank you for coming.

Yes.

Thank you for inviting.

Nice to be here.

So I have a question.

I like the concept of the pendulum you were talking about,

Right?

That we go from,

Let's say,

Emotional states that we find that we think are nice to the ones that are not so from light to darkness.

Yeah.

However you want to call it.

And I wanted to ask what to do when it's really,

Really bad,

Like,

Let's say,

Difficult conversation,

You're angry or really sad and the emotion is really,

Really hitting and as you described it as well as like this,

Right,

Getting stuck in the emotion and just like circling around instead of moving through.

And yeah,

And that moment when it's like really,

Really strong,

The feeling and you,

Yeah,

You could just like,

You lose yourself a little bit.

What do you,

What do you,

What do you do?

Right.

Yeah,

What I'm what I'm getting about you is your soul's really asking you to come into a much deeper and authentic love of yourself.

And Dharmadeva,

Pramasutra feels you will.

Okay.

No,

Please.

Yeah.

So,

This isn't a hoop for you to jump through.

This is where you're going.

And it's certainly where this work,

Walking with this work takes people.

Okay.

In a very simple grounded way.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's this deeper love of yourself.

And it's a part of you that you,

In your conditioned experience as a child,

You didn't get this level of love.

Now,

You know,

Parents would have to be self-realized to give you the really authentic level of love that we all need.

Do you understand that?

Yes,

Absolutely.

So,

It's not their fault,

But you have permission to allow this love in you to surface.

And these dense emotions come up just before we shift into a surrender to our truth.

It's like these dense emotions can come up and we don't make the surrender.

But in this case,

It's like this work is all about helping people come into this level of feeling loved,

Man.

Like,

There's huge love.

Like,

You just need permission.

It's like from Pramasutra,

It's like,

Or from any teacher,

That you're allowed to tap into this eternal love that's in you.

It's so strong in you.

And it's just been covered up by these dense emotions.

Now,

This is true for all of you,

But it's particularly true,

It's poignantly true for you.

And this is why you've asked this question.

Dharma Deva,

You need this personal input from Pramasutra.

Yes,

You have permission to just allow this incredible,

I'm seeing it as gold,

It's infinite,

It's eternal,

It's off the charts.

You have permission to allow this to surface in you.

That's what's wanting to happen.

That's what this dense stuff is covering up.

It's the primal experience of the child who felt he could not come forward with his true emotion.

So,

He got densely scared and densely angry about it underneath.

And he could never show that.

So,

It's like,

Even as we're talking,

It's almost for you,

This is your life's dream to do this.

And there's part of you that feels like,

Oh,

It's too good to be true.

This couldn't really be happening.

But man,

It is true.

It is happening.

This is the same thing that Pramasutra,

This is what the shift Pramasutra made and that she teaches from.

Yes,

You have a huge,

Powerful soul in there.

You are a really old soul.

Yeah,

I know.

Right.

Thank you.

Yeah.

You know,

You guys,

When we get deeply validated by a true teacher,

It just has huge impact.

And,

You know,

Amma's an avatar and she hugs us.

She does it non-verbally.

But sometimes we have to be hit over the head,

You know.

I'm hitting you over the head a bit,

Like very explicit.

So,

You know,

Just take this to heart and realize this is what you're working with,

Is actually learning to allow yourself to believe in yourself,

To feel it come forward in you,

And to just,

Yeah,

Observe the dense emotions and the difficult thoughts that come up.

This is why,

You know,

Where,

You know,

We can,

When it gets so intense,

This is where,

You know,

Sometimes it's,

You know,

I can't even,

The desire sometimes we feel like,

Oh,

It's so hard,

We just feel like jumping off a bridge.

But it is just there,

The ego trying to kill the soul.

You just watch this intense feelings,

These intense thoughts.

You don't buy into it.

Just know that it's your birth canal.

Okay.

You're in your birth canal,

Dharma Deva.

Yeah.

Right.

And even though you're back at,

You know,

In your hometown,

That can't stop your progress at all.

In fact,

It's probably in a funny way,

Giving you enough sense of safety,

And of also being a little trapped,

That's allowing this deeper surrender.

Yeah,

I do feel that too.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

Really good.

Wow,

That's really good.

So,

I feel like you made sort of space for your true nature to experience it,

Because it's so wanting to be born.

You've done so much work.

I mean,

You started on the journey early.

You've,

You know,

You've inconvenienced yourself for the goal of self-realization.

So,

It does come,

Man.

Yeah.

And the thing is,

You see,

This is hard because we're in a patriarchy.

So,

All this emotional material is not treated well.

It's dishonored.

It's disrespected.

So,

We get so confused.

And people go up into this religiosity,

And they go around feeling bad about themselves.

Oh,

We so need the clear,

True energy that you're going to be bringing in,

Brahmadeva.

I can feel it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's it.

We don't have to be perfect.

You just have to be willing to allow yourself to be purified endlessly.

Yes.

Yes.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Okay,

Good.

Brahmaseetha feels very happy.

And we can speak about it again,

You know,

If you might need more support.

You know,

We can speak about it again.

And anybody in satsang can arrange phone calls with Brahmaseetha.

You know,

So,

Yeah.

Not that you may need it.

You may not need it.

But I want you to know it's available if you do.

And we can also talk about this again.

I want you to take what you need in order to become free,

Dharmadeva.

And that's for all of you guys.

Take what you need in order for you to become free.

Yes.

Yeah.

Thank you,

Brahmaseetha.

Thanks for the offer.

I'll come back to you.

Okay,

Good.

Thanks,

Everybody.

Yeah.

Wow,

You guys.

How helpful is this?

Yeah.

Right.

Hello,

Brahmaseetha.

Hello,

Everyone.

Marion,

Yeah.

Sweetie.

Hello.

Hello.

How are you?

Pretty good,

Actually.

After two very intense sessions.

Yeah.

Brahmaseetha brought out her hammer a bit.

Yeah.

But good for you,

Marion.

You're up for it.

You don't run out of the room.

Yay.

No,

I didn't.

You didn't.

And you didn't either.

Or you didn't push me out of the room.

No,

No.

Yeah.

So what's up?

I'm crying a lot,

Which is good.

It's releasing.

Yes.

And sometimes when I see that I get tense,

I can see that it's not really tension,

But fear.

So I begin to observe it.

And then I try to step back and observe what's happening.

Well,

Your face looks lit,

But yeah,

Your face looks more lit and you look more yourself.

I think you're trying to do it right a little bit,

Like what the last bit you said about you stepping back and trying to,

It's not that useful.

It's not that useful.

You're still coming from trying to fix yourself and trying to fix this situation,

Rather than a really open-hearted love of Marion.

A love,

Open-hearted love and acceptance of Marion as she is.

That is what will fix this situation gradually,

But you don't see how it could.

Just need,

Sweetie,

You're doing like years of work in a very short time,

So.

I'm praying for it.

Yes.

Yeah,

I'm praying for it.

You know,

Amos says,

Westerners,

When we get on the journey,

We can get on it like,

You know,

Making it a career,

Like really,

Like we get on it.

You know,

I mean,

Yeah,

So good.

I can feel the sincere prayer you're realizing.

I feel like you're realizing that your ego does not win at all.

No,

It doesn't.

Yes,

And so you're less hooked by it because you see that it just keeps leading you off and it ends up hammering you.

And I got a pain under my shoulder,

Like for two days ago.

Yeah.

And it made me breathe harder,

Like it really hurt,

And then I give it a little massage,

And then I felt it wasn't like in the back,

But more up here,

Like not in the chest.

Yeah,

On your chest a little bit,

Your high chest.

Yeah,

Okay,

So this is your left shoulder.

Okay,

So what's the left shoulder?

Do you know?

It's emotional responsibility.

Okay,

This is what's killing you,

Is your feeling of emotional responsibility,

And it's on Amma's shoulders.

You need to give it to Amma.

She'll do a much better job than you.

Yeah,

I can feel you don't want to let it go.

Yeah,

If you feel like that you'd be betraying people,

You wouldn't.

You wouldn't.

It'd be the opposite.

It's the opposite.

We betray people when we don't move into truth,

You guys.

Our egos hurt people.

Really,

We can try to be the best mom or dad,

But it's like our egos hurt people.

They hurt us,

And they hurt others.

Yeah,

Marian,

Part of you thinks that you can do a better job than Amma.

No,

You do.

That's what you're living.

Yeah,

Right,

Yeah.

Marian's greatness is that she doesn't run out of the room,

And she takes all this,

And she changes.

She does her best.

You see what happens,

You guys,

In these spiritual openings that Marian's in.

Our ego gets totally defeated.

We need to leave the loser and go over to the winner,

Which is the Amma inside us,

The creator inside us.

Right,

Side with the winner,

Creator inside us.

Yeah,

Marian,

Oh sweetie.

You're in a little box,

And it's insolvable,

And you're scared of life outside this box.

Yeah,

Sweetie,

Oh,

And you love your daughter so much.

Yep,

Yep.

You know,

My mom used to cause me far more distress when she got into trying to fix Janet mode or save Janet.

She caused me distress.

Oh,

And my mom was always giving me sort of spiritual teachings,

But it was so useless,

Because I looked at her,

And I'm going like,

Well,

You're totally coming from your ego,

Woman.

Like,

You're just trying to fix me rather than actually,

You know,

Deal with yourself.

She meant well.

Right,

Okay,

Good,

Good.

Okay,

Something in what Pramasutra said hit home,

So it's very good,

Yeah.

Good.

How do you feel right now?

Ashamed.

Pardon?

Ashamed.

Ashamed.

Okay,

So the shame,

Which is covering up your soul,

Is coming up to be cleared.

Okay.

You guys,

When we move into truth,

We will feel shame coming up,

Because as little kids,

We learn to be ashamed of our true energy.

So,

When we're moving into truth,

Shame comes up.

Right,

Okay.

Marion,

Are you willing to step forward into more trust and truth,

More truth and trust of the Creator,

Of Amma?

Yes.

Yes,

You are.

Okay,

I see this.

You are.

You've stepped forward on a very subtle level.

You will feel it coming in more and more.

It's almost,

I feel like it gets done on the theric level,

And then it just goes into all the levels.

You're just in a very big spiritual opening,

Sweet,

Sweet.

Yeah.

All will be well.

You move into truth,

All will be well.

The ship,

Okay,

When we're in crisis,

It looks like the ship is going to turn over,

You know,

It's going to turn upside down.

But actually,

When we move into truth,

The ship rights itself,

And all is well.

It's the way it works,

You guys.

That's very good,

Marion.

Your soul is very,

Very happy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Amma says,

When you're a zero,

You're a hero.

When you feel like the way you feel,

Marion,

And you,

You know,

You step back into a surrender,

That's it.

That's the hero.

This is what would bring peace to the earth.

This is how we can bring peace to the earth.

Yeah.

Peaceful warriors.

J Ma.

Yeah.

Good work.

Wow,

Guys.

Thank you.

Oh,

Thank you.

Thank you to everybody who stepped forward today.

It's such good,

Good work.

Really.

You know,

When even one of us drops baggage,

There's more light on the whole earth,

There's more light through the whole universe.

Yeah.

And this is the bravest work a human being can do.

Really,

I mean,

I've often felt like,

You know,

I have no physical courage.

I don't like heights.

I have no physical courage.

But I still feel that doing this kind of work is,

Takes more courage than just jumping out of an airplane.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

And this brings peace to the earth,

You guys.

And,

You know,

Your lives will become more peaceful.

Your lives will honor your soul.

They'll honor,

In the way you live,

They'll honor the inner ama.

Honor the ama.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well,

You know,

We've got time for one last question or observations.

Please come forward if you'd like to speak.

Or maybe this is enough and everybody can just take home what's been learned.

But Premasut is like over the moon.

This is,

Premasut is so happy you guys are getting this at the level that you are.

Yeah.

It's so easy and so hard,

Both.

And it will return you to your true natures.

It will return you to the person you were born to be.

You know,

I remember once,

I've been on the journey for about two decades.

I remember hearing,

Going to a wise person,

And they said that Premasut was coming into the journey in just the right way.

And I'm like,

Well,

Why do I always feel like a mess?

Why am I always like sad?

I'm not doing yoga,

You know.

I mean,

I'm like,

You know,

I pray a lot,

But I don't have like a particular time that I pray.

I mean,

I seem to upset people so much.

I feel like I'm not a good mother and that I could,

You know,

That somehow like my children's pain is my fault and all this stuff.

And this guy was saying,

You're doing it in just the right way.

Okay,

Now what Premasut was doing was Premasut wanted it with all her heart.

Yeah.

And Premasut was,

You know,

A fool for God.

You know,

People scorned her out for being eccentric,

You know.

But Premasut really wanted to know the creator.

And that's what I feel in many of you.

And you have that too.

So,

Just relax more.

Matipa,

Relax more.

You've got it.

You're sincere.

You've got it.

Yeah.

It's all good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Really,

If nobody else starts this miserable sinner stuff or like seeing all their faults in like stark relief and crippling themselves with their,

You know,

With their sense of faults,

Premasut would be just so happy.

So,

If I can just encourage you to dare to love and honor yourselves.

Right.

And feel your worth.

Premasut sees it and feels it.

Right.

And we all make asses of ourselves,

You guys.

And we all make spiritual mistakes.

It's like,

Oh,

Well,

Pick yourself up.

Try again.

Well,

I was going to say,

Actually,

I used to say to myself,

It's not over until the fat lady sings.

And then I questioned myself.

I thought,

Oh,

I can't say that.

So,

I changed it to it's not over until it's over.

So,

Then I muted myself.

Right.

Because it was a little bit out of alignment and second guessing myself.

There you go,

You guys.

Okay.

If you turn up for these,

You're a sincere student.

Okay,

You guys.

Many,

Many blessings.

See you tomorrow if you come.

Next week.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just what a joy it is that we come together like this.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.