Empowerment Of Menopause With Katya Dantini

Hello and welcome to this week's podcast and we have an amazing guest here and we are going to have a little chat all about menopause,

Midlife,

All of those beautiful things.

Thank you so much Iris and Angelus,

I hope I got that right,

For coming today.

I really think that what we chat about today is going to be amazing and it's going to be just some beautiful information for our listeners here.

So I would love for you to introduce yourself,

Share anything that you would like and then we'll just dive in as we do.

Well thank you so much for having me,

I'm so delighted to connect with you and to talk about this taboo no longer subject and everything that it entails from a point of experience.

So I'm very excited to be here with you today.

Absolutely.

So my name is Iris Angelus and I am the author of two books,

One is called Passion to Thrive,

Reclaim Your Life's Potential Purpose,

Passion and Power,

Which is a women's empowerment book and that is all about encouraging us to view life as play and try on different ways of being in the world through,

I've picked seven,

Well I've picked archetypes that sort of have each their own unique characteristics and flavors.

So for example,

The mother or the healer or the storyteller and encourage us to just try them on and see if they fit and if they fit,

Great.

Draw on all that wisdom and all that knowledge and that particular way of being in the world and if it doesn't fit,

You just try something else.

And my second book is called Your Body is the Portal to Your Soul.

Your body has the answers,

Make it your best friend for life.

Oh,

I love that.

And this book is all about how most of us have been taught to hate our bodies or to look for the flaws or if something doesn't feel right because there's a pain or a discomfort or something's not working to just kind of,

You know,

Squash it down with medicine so that we can keep doing life the way we've been doing it rather than stopping and going,

Okay,

My body knows innately everything it needs to thrive and it can guide me through this 3D experience of life and we can have a brilliant experience because if our bodies can thrive,

Then we can thrive.

And our bodies try to tell us all these things but we don't listen and then things just get worse and worse and worse and in the end we end up with disease or disability of some kind.

So it's about actually understanding,

Revering our bodies as this incredible tool,

If you like.

I don't like using the word tool because there's so much more to it than that but it's this incredible tool and guide for actually stepping into our power as beings.

The more we can live in our bodies,

And that's easy if the body is comfortable and happy,

The more we can bring our own soul frequency to the world and,

You know,

Do here what we came to do which is gift the world with our frequency,

Our way of loving,

Our way of interacting,

Our way of living in the world and enriching it in that way and while we're having our own experience of life.

Yeah,

Love it,

Love it,

Love it,

Love it.

And probably the biggest part is like when you're talking about that the body is the portal of the soul.

It is a hundred percent where we need to be when we're in midlife,

When we're in menopause,

Perimenopause,

Whatever you want to call it.

When we're in that part,

My biggest thing is what I say to women in that time is you need to connect into yourself,

Connect into this body that you currently have.

Like I work on an energetic sense but it still works on a physical sense because at that specific time we are so disconnected from our bodies and going through the motions of things that I love that.

I love it.

Yeah,

It's actually a real shame because really women have a monthly inbuilt feedback system of how are we tracking,

You know,

And if,

You know,

I noticed that back when I was still bleeding that if I had been kind to myself and nurtured myself,

Being true to myself,

Spoken up when I needed to,

Rested when I needed to,

Periods where,

You know,

Walk in the park.

Whereas if I hadn't been,

Oh hello migraine,

Oh hello I can't stand up because I'm just so tired in the lower part of my body.

So like that's actually our body trying to encourage us,

Be kind to me,

Be kind to me.

And it's a bit of a shame that you know during that time where we are fertile,

We actually don't on our bodies in a way.

I had this conversation with somebody the other day and she said,

Well,

I was talking to this lady and she said that menopause isn't an issue in other parts of the world.

And I was thinking,

Oh is that because they don't talk about it?

And she says no,

It's actually because in places like India for example,

As a woman when you're 40,

You're done.

Your daughter takes over or your daughter-in-law takes over and you can just sit back,

Relax and enjoy being attended to.

And I was thinking,

That sounds really cool actually.

That sounds amazing.

That's amazing isn't it?

That it's an inbuilt part of the culture that you get to that age and you are then looked after.

So you've effectively in my terms,

You've done your nurturing and now it's time to be nurtured.

Absolutely,

Absolutely.

And what do we do in our society?

We've got to produce,

Produce,

Produce.

We've got to strive,

Strive,

Strive.

We've got to do,

We've got to be busy.

We've got to do all these things.

And you know when we then get to menopause and we've been doing that for the last 35 years or so,

The body is saying,

I've been trying to tell you to rest and relax and enjoy and feel peaceful for the last 35 years.

Will you listen?

And then you get a hot flush or then you don't sleep because that's been so disconnected.

Yeah,

It's really interesting.

When I first started to hit that perimenopause and I had the hot flushes,

It's really interesting.

I wanted to,

I literally turned away from it and I turned away from what my body was telling me.

And I remember a friend saying to me,

Why don't you make friends with it?

And I went,

What are you talking about?

Because I had the narrative in my head that,

You know,

After many like 10,

12 years of my mum telling me,

Oh bloody hot flushes,

This,

This,

This,

This,

This.

And it was like a light bulb went on in my head and I went,

Why can't I make friends with it?

Why do I have to be at war with my body?

Why do I have to let society tell me that I'm no,

That I'm redundant?

And I went,

F this.

I don't,

I don't subscribe to that narrative anymore.

I don't subscribe to that crap part of life.

And as women,

I'm going on a tangent,

I promise I'll come back.

As women,

We need to talk about this more.

We need to educate.

We need to talk about this more.

Stop turning away from our bodies and turn into our bodies and go,

Oh,

Okay.

That's where it's at.

It's telling me something.

My body is telling me something.

Absolutely.

Wow.

I love that.

I love it.

I love it.

I love it.

I didn't know in Indian culture,

That's what they did.

So I love that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was,

Yeah.

And the thing is,

Um,

From a sort of hormonal point of view,

When the ovaries stop producing quite so much estrogen,

It's actually our adrenal glands that are designed to kick in and take,

Take over that production.

So if you have been stressed for the last three decades and your adrenal glands are fatigued and out of resources already,

They can't then also be doing that.

And that's why we get into this deep strife.

So really it's about a cultural change altogether and going,

Well,

Are we human workings?

No.

Are we human doings?

No.

Are we human beings?

Yes.

Right.

Like actually,

And actually have,

I think it's an invitation to,

Um,

Really tune into the peace and the joy that we actually carry in our hearts.

Instead of all that cultural conditioning,

Striving production business for its own sake,

A lot of the time too,

And just really appreciate this life that we've given to live.

Because if we're not present for it,

We miss it.

And then we get to the end of and go,

What happened?

Those,

Those,

I'm just thinking,

You know,

For myself,

Like one of my joyful things is being on the,

On the beach with the dog and those like beautiful,

Like little star moments and out and hours.

That's,

What's gonna,

That's going to fill me up.

That's what I'm going to remember at the end of my life is that moment of joy and,

And just pure enjoyment and appreciation.

If I've had a really busy day doing something on the computer,

Especially it's like that day,

It's just right off,

You know,

That's just going to be consigned to oblivion because it didn't really like doing it in the first place.

You know,

My body was like,

We're still sitting down.

Yeah.

And there's like,

I'm really wired and I'm tired at the same time.

Like my body's like,

I haven't moved all day.

Yeah.

And my body is going,

I'm just completely frazzled.

So it's just not a good setup.

So our bodies will tell us,

Okay,

You need a break now.

You need to get up.

You need to move around a little bit or whatever it is.

You know,

You need some,

Some food,

Like don't,

Don't do the caffeine,

Like just give yourself a rest,

You know,

All that stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's so true though.

It's so true.

Our body,

Our body will tell us what we need.

Yes.

Forgotten to listen.

Yes.

Yeah.

We've been conditioned out of listening,

Haven't we?

You're right.

It's not,

We've forgotten.

We've been conditioned.

You're right.

Yeah.

To stop,

To stop listening to our body because we're so busy being busy.

Yeah.

That,

You know,

We've forgotten and getting out in nature and you know,

I have a forest right near me and I call it my forest.

Um,

And I generally try and walk at least every day in that because it just regenerates me.

It's what my body calls for.

So yeah,

For sure.

I love this view life as play.

Mm hmm.

How do we bring that into midlife?

How do we bring that into menopause midlife,

That part of our lives?

How do we bring that more into,

I'd love for you to share more about that?

Well,

Like remember when we were kids and we had these big boxes with all these outfits and you could be a princess or you could be a witch or you could be a rabbit or you could be a,

Whatever you want it to be.

Right.

And you would try on that costume and you would play out that role and you would get a sense of,

Well,

If I do this,

Chances are people going to react to me in this way.

Yeah.

Or if I do that,

Then,

You know,

Likely what I,

What's going to happen is this.

Um,

So I think any,

Any time of life,

Really approach life as play.

The thing is,

If you keep doing what we've always done,

We're going to keep getting the same outcome.

So that's not rocket science.

So if we can just find something to change and go like,

I guess the problem is we derive too much identity from that as well.

You know,

I'm not the busy executive or the mother or the whatever.

Like when people retire,

It's like,

Well now what it's like,

Well,

That's actually because you have been so subsumed by the role that you're playing that you've mistaken it for your identity.

Yes.

So just play,

Like try something new,

Even if it's a small as I always have coffee in the morning,

I'm going to have a tea,

You know,

Or I'm going to try different flavor tea or I'm going to go for a walk or I'm going to sleep in or I'm going to read a book,

Whatever,

Meditate,

Whatever it is,

Just change something and notice how you feel,

You know,

Notice how your body responds.

Um,

And then you might find out,

Well,

Coffee is my thing and I really enjoy it.

And it's just the highlight of my morning and then great go with that.

But you might find,

I actually don't need that because you know,

It makes me wired and,

And nervy.

And I actually feel much better if I don't have coffee,

Whatever it is.

So just pick a little something and change that.

And the important part there is not changing that little thing necessarily.

It's knowing that we have choice.

Yeah.

Knowing that we have choice in what we do,

Knowing that we have choice in how we react to any one thing,

Knowing we have choice in what roles we choose to play.

Like,

Yeah,

There's this societal playbook,

But does this actually suit me?

Probably not.

It's not really designed for humans thriving,

Right?

It's actually designed for just being productive and then dying.

So,

You know,

If you want to enjoy your time on earth,

What are the things that nurture you,

That give you joy and then follow that little trail of bliss.

And yes,

You like my change drastically as a result,

But at least if you stick with what you've done,

You know that you're here by choice and that's going to feel a whole lot more empowering than doing things because you've been told you should.

Such a different thing,

Isn't it?

Being here by choice.

I love that.

Being here by choice.

I do my,

Like for me,

I look at that and I go,

I do my work by choice because I love it.

I adore it.

But I love that keeping it simple,

Like you're making those little tweaks,

Those little things.

It's not,

I think a lot of the time,

Midlife women,

When they're in this space,

Everything is already happening anyway.

And it's like,

Okay,

So you need to completely change your life and you just go,

Yeah,

No.

But keeping it simple,

Like what you're saying,

Having tea instead of coffee or going for a walk in the morning as opposed to sitting down straight away at the computer.

You know,

I'm going to go choosing clothes to put on your body that feel really goddamn good,

As opposed to putting on those tight jeans that really don't fit,

That you're going to pretend they're going to be okay.

I do find that a lot of midlife women struggle with putting good clothing on their bodies because they want to be back here.

They want to be this person and not looking after themselves.

So,

But keeping it simple and knowing we have choice.

Yes.

Life-changing.

Yes.

Life-changing,

Knowing we have a choice here because so many of the women I work with don't feel like they have a choice.

Yes.

Yes.

Society says,

Because this is how it's always been done,

Insert whatever you would like to do here.

It's so,

It's actually insane the way that our society is programming people,

Right?

When you think about it,

Like all your,

Like we were saying before we started the recording,

It's almost like from the age of 10 to the age of about 65,

Anything is wrong with you.

Oh,

It's your hormones.

It's your hormones.

And it's like,

No,

Maybe it's actually society that's wrong in wanting us to just be in this particular way without regard for our own hearts or for our own desires and how we want to live our lives.

And we've got to fit into those skinny jeans because we've got to look like a 14 year old.

Because if we actually discovered how much power we have and how much power is in our bodies,

We would step right out of that and not give a stuff about what society expects from us.

And we would live lives of joy and fulfillment.

And like,

This is what I love about menopause.

Like you drop those nurturing hormones and all of a sudden you go,

You want me to sort out that shit for you?

No,

It's not mine.

I love,

That's my biggest love from,

From menopause.

That's your shit.

You sort it out.

Like I am done trying to smooth your feathers over and make sure everything is nice and harmonious and swallowing all of that into my body and carrying that around in my body.

You sort that out.

Like imagine if all the women in the planet owned their power,

How different life would look.

Oh,

Look,

I get whole body tingles when you say that,

Because that is,

That is part of my deep core driver is if every single woman on this planet knew their power,

Knew who they were and step into that.

Yeah.

I won't swear,

But yes.

That gave me full body chills.

Oh yeah.

I am so here for that.

I'm sorry.

And that was probably the biggest thing for me in midlife was just being able to stand back and go,

Uh,

No,

Uh,

No,

You know,

Cause I just won't,

I won't put up with people manipulating me.

I won't put up with people using me.

I won't put up with people talking down to me anymore.

Have I lost friendships and family members and things like that along the way?

Absolutely.

Yes.

But I am no longer available for that shit.

Yes.

And you know,

If people treat you that way,

Blue life is probably going to be better with them at the distance anyway.

Correct.

You know,

Where,

Where are you putting your energy?

Where are you putting your focus?

And you will,

You will draw in people that are vibing at your level and just think you're the best thing ever.

And so grateful to have you in their lives and,

Oh,

Come on,

Let's do this.

And every time you catch up with them,

It's a,

It's an enriching experience for both parties.

And that's so good.

It's just,

It's so much better.

And I think this is the biggest thing again,

That women in midlife struggle with like menopause is that,

And I've lost my train of thought.

I hate it when that happens.

Um,

What were we talking?

Oh,

Yeah.

Like we don't need to compromise anymore,

But there's still part of them that feels like they're asking for too much or they're being a disrespectful is not the right word,

But you get what I mean?

It's like,

No,

You're holding boundaries.

You're holding those beautiful boundaries that go,

I'm not here for this.

I deserve more.

And I'm asking for it.

One of my realizations with menopause as well,

Is that as young women,

We get conditioned that not only are we responsible for our own emotions,

Our own actions,

Our own thoughts,

Our own habits,

We actually also responsible for how somebody else might or might not react to us.

Right.

So,

You know,

If something bad happens to us,

It wasn't the man's fault for doing something.

I'm just going to go with something extreme.

It wasn't a man's fault for doing something bad to us.

It was our fault cause our skirt was too short,

You know?

So we have to then get addressed thinking,

Oh,

Okay.

Is this skirt too short?

Do I have to have a longer skirt so that he doesn't feel like I'm inviting him to do something?

And that just gets my blood boiling because it actually lets potential perpetrators off the hook.

And it gives us this massive task of,

You know,

Making sure that we're safe and those we love are safe,

That we actually get shut down in our expression too much.

And I guess that's a nicer thing about being an older woman.

Yes.

And,

You know,

Not being eye candy in the same way,

At least.

The nice thing about growing older is that people are much better looking because you start looking at beauty in a completely different way.

Yeah.

And it means that,

You know,

You actually can wear the clothes that you want to wear that make you feel beautiful and gorgeous and comfortable.

Yeah.

Because,

You know,

That threat is not there anymore.

And what I would love for young women to be able to experience that so that they can actually express their own authentic self throughout the whole lives without this sense of,

Oh,

What might somebody else do or say or how might they react if I show up like this?

Yeah,

Absolutely.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

It's actually one of the most empowering parts of menopausal midlife is you just go,

I actually don't care anymore.

This makes me feel good.

Yes.

You know,

What I wear,

What I do with my body,

Where I put myself,

All of those things.

And I think we need to talk more about this empowerment around midlife because it is,

It is empowering.

We can listen to the sad stories of,

You know,

Hot flushes and this happens and that happens and that happens and your body gets bigger and all of that sort of stuff.

I absolutely adore my body right now.

Yay.

I adore my body.

I want to dress in beautiful things and show my body exactly as it is because this is it.

This is me for the next 50 years.

This is me,

However,

Or however long I choose to live.

Um,

And I'm not going to hide myself.

I got my first tattoos at 50.

Okay.

I'm now slightly,

Slightly addicted,

But you know,

As a young one,

I always wanted them and then,

You know,

Where I've got them,

Then you can see them all the time because if I'm going to put it on my body,

It's going to be somewhere where I can see it because it's for me.

Yes.

What other people's things?

No,

If people are going to judge me by what I have on my body,

Then that's on them.

That's not.

Yeah.

That's right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think we just need to educate women to see this as an empowering and beautiful time as opposed to the current,

I'm going to say a bullshit narrative that is used.

Yeah.

Right.

Yes.

Yeah.

And also like really what that tells us that society really values us in terms of can we bear children or not?

Correct.

That's a minuscule part of who we are and what we can do.

Yes.

Um,

And one of my biggest bugbears is,

Oh,

You know,

If you haven't had children,

Then you can't possibly fulfill this.

Like,

Wow.

You know,

Like how,

How small can that box be that you're putting me in?

Am I a human being?

Am I a woman that can do all sorts of other things?

Have I got a myriad of other talents?

Correct.

You know,

And having children is something that I may or may not do,

But either way,

My life is going to be the best life that can be.

Same with that hypocrisy that you see,

For example,

In parliament,

Right?

If a woman goes into parliament and her husband stays home and minds the kids,

It's like,

Ah,

Well,

She's not really the full thing.

Cause you know,

She would be at home rearing her children.

Does anybody ever ask any of the men that?

No.

How do you balance home and,

And,

And work life with this terrible schedule that you've got?

Because it's totally,

It's totally okay for the wife to be doing those things.

Right.

Yeah.

So,

So can we see the double standards that are going on here?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And that's probably another rabbit hole maybe for another day,

But yeah,

Absolutely agree with you.

Absolutely agree with you.

You know,

You don't get the snide remarks.

Oh,

She must be hormonal.

You know,

But you,

Nobody hears anybody saying that to a man,

Do they?

But yes,

I remember vividly.

I must've been,

I think in my around about 30 at the time.

And I was seeing,

You know,

A patient who was a man and I knew his wife as well.

And he came in and said,

Oh,

Like the women,

When they go on menopausal,

I don't know what goes on there,

But you know,

They're a bit hard to be around.

And now I know it's like,

That's because we've been putting up and compensating for your BS.

Yeah.

And now we've had enough,

We put our foot down,

We put a boundary up and all of a sudden that changes the parameters for the man and within the relationship as well.

And it's like,

Well,

Actually,

If we had a proper equal relationship to start with,

And I'm not saying that that's easy because the cultural conditioning is so deep and we really don't have any good role models,

But if it had been an equal relationship from the word go,

It would just be a lovely transition that you both do together.

Yes.

And there's no reason why that can't be done together.

There's no reason why that can't be a beautiful time where partners come together and talk about things.

But most women,

Most 40 plus women do not know enough about menopause.

They do not know enough about midlife.

Um,

I'm currently in this beautiful group at the moment and it's not a group where I can actually land what I do in,

But there was one lady that mentioned,

Oh yeah,

You've hit,

You've just hit 40.

Welcome to blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah.

And I went,

Oh yeah.

But they were saying they can't talk with it with some of their girlfriends because they're still trying to get pregnant.

So they don't want to talk about any of it.

I'm like,

Wow.

Like how shut down is that,

That they don't want to hear what their friend is going through in a,

In a perimenopausal midlife area because they're still trying to have children.

That's so dividing.

And why do we fight?

Why can't we talk about it?

So,

Um,

That really opened my eyes to some of the things that are happening.

I think for me,

My midlife journey was so lonely.

Yeah.

So lonely for me because I didn't have people around me that I could talk about it with.

So that's why I'm so passionate about this.

Yes.

It has to change.

It has to change.

Um,

And it has to change in so many ways.

But another thing that a friend of mine sort of said to me is our partners don't know what we're going through.

No.

And it's not,

And it's not their fault in any way,

Because it's been such a shutdown and to boost subjects that we need to not only educate ourselves as women,

But we need to educate our partners as well.

Yeah.

What's happening in my body.

This is what's going on for me.

This is why this reacts this way,

But that's probably another subject for another day.

Do you know what I mean?

No,

It's,

It's not even just educating women themselves.

It's educating our partners.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You support us to help support us so we can both walk through this together.

Cause it gets to be that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well,

This has been amazing.

Is there anything that you would like to leave us with?

Um,

We,

I will put all of your contact details and everything in the show notes so people can reach out to you,

But is there anything that you would love to leave us with today?

Um,

Any pearls of wisdom or anything like that?

So my personal big thing is the practice of gratitude.

Um,

Practicing gratitude,

Um,

Is something I've been doing consciously for 20 years.

And the magic of gratitude is that the more grateful you are,

The more,

The more happens that you can be grateful for.

And in my experience,

Gratitude is the quickest way to,

Um,

Transmute something that's difficult that's going on for you.

Um,

Yeah.

So can we start,

Can we give gratitude to our bodies,

Right?

Like I find that if something difficult happens,

I'm now having enough laps around the sun to know that at some point I'm going to look back at this and go,

I'm really grateful that that happened because if that hadn't happened,

Then I wouldn't have understood these things about myself.

And then I wouldn't be owning that part of my power.

So I know that down the track,

I will be grateful for this.

And if I can hold that awareness while it's going on,

It means that getting through that,

Whatever it is is easier.

And then of course,

I can make choices about how I'm going to navigate this and who I'm going to call on to help me with it and lots of things.

So can we hold gratitude for our bodies for trying to communicate with us and trying to shepherd us into a life of thrival and joy and connection and love and communication and belonging and owning our power because that's what they're doing.

And I will have to bring in my personal bugbear of hormonal contraception at this point too.

Um,

Because our fertility rhythms are such a delicate dance of different hormones at different times and different cells doing different things.

And as part of this,

I see this very much as part of this kind of let's keep women quiet and disempowered and more like men so that we can all get along.

Okay.

This hormonal contraception thing.

And I think it's brutal that you ask a body to not menstruate for two or three years,

Which is what currently happens with those implants.

Um,

But even like if you're on the pill,

It's still not a proper periods,

You know,

It's not a tap where you kind of take a hormonal contraception and then you stop taking it.

And while next month you can fall pregnant,

You know,

Um,

There are,

There is something called natural fertility management where you just learn to understand when your body is fertile,

You recognize the science and you pay attention to the moon.

So,

You know,

When you're fertile and then you can run your life with those cycles where you're trying to fall pregnant or not,

Right.

But it actually gives you that beautiful ebb and flow in life.

Okay.

Right now it's time for me to be doing expansive things right now.

It's time for me to,

You know,

Retract a little bit and just go deep into that creative space and let things percolate.

And I look now it's time to be expansive again.

Yeah.

So this incredible ebb and flow that most of that,

Even if you don't take hormonal contraception,

Just gets completely shut down.

Right.

So now here we are at menopause and the body's saying,

Okay,

I've been,

You've been actually shutting me down for the last,

However long,

Because you've been taking all these drugs.

Um,

But the problem is still the same.

And the problem is still that you're actually not being present for your life,

That you're not loving your body,

That you're not nurturing your body with the right foods and exercise and rest and connection and hugs and things.

Um,

So can we do that now,

Please?

Right.

So can we just,

Um,

That was a tangent.

Can we just love and appreciate and have gratitude for our bodies because they love us the way that we love the ocean or the forest or the night sky,

Like,

You know,

The 50 trillion citizens,

Citizen cells that make up our bodies,

They all work together with the very best way that they can,

Because they,

If they individually thrive and they like to thrive,

The more the body as a whole can thrive.

Yeah.

So can we just have a moment of awe for this incredible being that is our body separate from who we are that loves us,

That nurtures us that wants to look,

If you have a horse,

Right.

And you treat it well,

Your horse will think of you as their friend.

Right.

And it will look out for you.

And if you fall asleep on top of it,

We'll make sure you both get home safely.

Right.

Yes.

Yes.

It's kind of like that.

Like our bodies are,

I hate to say vehicle,

But like the,

The being that we get to inhabit and it wants to have a lovely time here on planet earth while we're here together.

So can we,

Can we give our bodies gratitude for not giving up on us basically?

And can we give our bodies gratitude to try to communicate with us?

And can we just,

Instead of being annoyed or angry,

Or can we just go,

I wonder what you're trying to,

Can we put in curiosity,

What are you trying to tell me?

What are you trying to achieve by having this right now?

What are you trying to draw my attention to?

Knowing that if we do do what the body is asking us to do,

We will actually feel so much better in our bodies.

And as a result,

Be more present for our lives and have a much better time of it.

So personally,

I think menopause has been incredible.

I will also say I have a traditional Chinese medicine practitioner,

Acupuncturist and herbalist that I see,

And she has been amazing.

I don't like hot flushes either.

But to actually see also the parallel,

The change in my perception of,

You know,

I was talking about being on the,

You know,

With the dog on the beach.

What I've noticed for myself in the last couple of months even is if I'm down there,

I'm having a lovely time.

I'm just going to spend a little bit more time there.

Whereas my old self would have said,

Oh,

I better get back because I've got to do X,

Y,

And Z.

Yeah.

So actually that's a shift in me towards peace and joy.

And I'm so grateful for menopause for that.

Yeah.

And you're choosing you.

I'm choosing me.

That's right.

I'm choosing I'm choosing health.

I'm choosing well-being.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Amazing.

Amazing.

Oh,

Thank you so much for that.

I really,

Really appreciate it.

So much wisdom there.

I hope everybody who is listening has enjoyed that.

And yeah,

If you have any questions,

If you're listening,

You have any questions,

Please put them in the notes and I will definitely ask you to come and answer them for us.

So that would be a pleasure.

Yeah.

Thank you so much.

It's been amazing.

And yes,

I will.

Well,

All you do and thank you for speaking about something that's not being spoken about much,

Especially not in this way.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And I will continue to speak about it.

So all right,

Everybody.

Bye for now.

I will talk.

You will hear me next week.

Bye.