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08: How To Hear Guidance With John Mark Stroud

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If you've ever struggled with "hearing" guidance, this episode is sure to help. Spiritual teacher John Mark Stroud gives crystal clear advice for tuning into the Spirit's channel instead of the ego's channel. You'll be guided through a powerful meditation on "knowing" guidance through your body and you'll have a chance to join us in pure JOY at the end of the show! Get the show notes and takeaways on my website.

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This is From Anxiety to Love Radio,

The show about undoing anxiety through A Course in Miracles and other pathways of love.

Gain insights and tools to deepen your awareness of the peace that is already in you.

I'm your host,

Corinne Zupko.

Are you in for a treat today?

If you've ever wondered how do I hear guidance or the voice of spirit,

This episode is for you.

John Mark Stoud is my guest,

And he experienced a profound spiritual awakening in 2011.

With great gladness,

He serves to communicate the message of our shared oneness as divine love.

You're going to hear some practical tools about listening to guidance.

John Mark will guide us in a profound meditation that will help you tune into communication with spirit.

And you're going to hear some fabulous laughter at the end of the show.

I'd love to hear your thoughts about this episode.

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Let's listen into my conversation with John Mark Stoud.

Welcome everyone.

In today's episode,

I am here with John Mark Stoud,

Who has been an incredible teacher and mentor to me.

And I have learned so much from him and he's given such clear advice about how to listen to guidance that I just had to have him on the show.

So John Mark,

Welcome.

Well thank you,

My friend.

I'm really glad to be here and I'm humbled that I've been able to support you in some way.

You really have.

And I know you've supported many,

Many others.

And in one of your Miracle Share talks a while ago,

You spoke about how to hear spirit,

How to hear guidance.

And so since that's such a common question that people have,

I was wondering if we could dive right in.

Oh,

You bet.

This is a really cool subject,

One I like a lot because it's really Jesus' first teaching,

Seek first,

Or he's corrected that in his modern pathways,

Choose first the queendom,

Choose first our connection to spirit,

Our truth.

So I'll share with you what he shared with me when I began to awaken and began to hear an inner voice,

How he taught me to do it.

And of course I'm going to make this sound really,

Really simple,

Which it is,

But that doesn't necessarily make it easy.

It still takes a lot of practice because it's not something we're used to doing.

We've used to been using our hearing,

Our spiritual faculty to hear and commune and communicate.

We've limited that to just be what we usually experience through our physical ears.

So a couple of prerequisites that are really important for people to remember,

Everyone has a connection to spirit,

Absolutely everyone.

It's not special,

It's not unique,

It's not that some people have it and some people don't.

It was established in our creation,

In our extension from source,

This very robust channel of communication.

What we've all learned to do is to ignore it.

We've all mastered ignoring this so that we could listen to the voice that chatters away in our heads and we could experience ourselves distinctly separate from that voice of wisdom,

From that voice of truth,

From that which is our eternal nature.

So everybody can do this.

The simplest example is,

And I'm sure you like to do this occasionally,

Go out to restaurants and you find yourself eavesdropping.

Do you ever do this?

You already have the ability to take your awareness,

Which is light itself,

And focus it in one specific area and let the rest of it drop away.

So there can be lots of noise in the restaurant,

But everyone has this uncanny ability to tune in to one table and just kind of ignore the rest of the sound.

We can all do this.

Mothers do it with their children.

We do it in classes when we're at students,

You know,

Tuning into the teacher's voice.

So everybody already knows how to do this.

So that's just one of the two prerequisites.

Everybody has this connection and it's something we actually already know how to do.

We're just going to learn to do it in a different way,

In an inner way,

Rather than in an outer way how we normally do with our physical hearing.

Beautiful.

So with that set up,

When I first began to hear an inner voice,

It wasn't so much a voice at first.

It was a nudge.

It was a knowing.

It was really kind of mysterious,

But I wanted to know more.

Now of course I was a Course in Miracles student and it said,

Ask the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit will answer.

So I was like,

Okay.

So I just asked the Spirit,

How do I hear your voice?

And what I saw in my inner eye,

In my mind,

Was a picture of a radio in a car.

You remember the old ones when we were kids.

Now everything's digital.

But when we were kids,

You actually had to turn a dial and that red frequency bar moved up or down the scale depending on how you turned it.

And as you turned it,

You know,

There'd be some static,

But once you got it dialed in just right,

There would be the frequency and you would hear the music.

So the Spirit was indicating very clearly to me that I didn't have a hearing problem.

I had a tuning problem.

And for instance,

If you're in your car listening to country music and you want to hear classical music,

It doesn't do you any good to wait for classical music to show up on the country channel.

And this is what a lot of people do.

They listen to their egoic voice,

Their thoughts in their head,

And they want to hear Spirit on that channel.

Well,

Spirit doesn't broadcast on that ego frequency.

Spirit broadcasts on its own frequency.

So the Spirit was showing me,

Ah,

I need to change the channel.

I need to move from the me channel,

My habituated familiar frequency,

To the Spirit's channel.

And it just made so much sense to me.

It didn't do me any good to want to hear in the way that I heard my own inner voice,

My own chatter.

It wouldn't do me any good to listen in that way.

I needed to learn how to change the channel.

So at first,

Really simply,

When I wanted to hear Spirit,

I would imagine this radio in my mind.

And I had,

In my own imagination,

I had taken all the buttons off the radio except two,

You know,

Those preset buttons.

One was the me channel or the ego,

And the other one was the Holy Spirit,

Because as far as I was concerned,

Those were the only two that were relevant.

So I would have this picture arise in my mind,

And I would push the button for the Holy Spirit.

Now I want to be clear,

Unlike a radio where the,

Once you change the channel,

For instance,

Again,

If you move towards classical music from country,

Country totally disappears,

Our inner chatter frequency doesn't necessarily totally disappear.

We all want it to,

And God,

Wouldn't that make things so much easier?

But it doesn't.

It just kind of keeps going like that noise in the restaurant.

We have to learn to just ignore it,

Let it go,

Abandon our normal fixation to that voice as though it's our us and what we want to hear.

So this picture would come up in my mind,

I would push the Holy Spirit button,

I would see in my inner awareness that red thing move over,

And of course it moved up the frequency dial in my inner vision,

Which was really me wanting to tune into higher self or higher guidance or the Holy Spirit.

And then once on that channel,

I would ask my question.

And what I had to learn to do was then to shut up and not pray incessantly,

Not ask incessantly,

Not repeat over and over and over,

Like that was helpful.

I had to just actually ask my question and then wait for the response.

And that was a little hard at first because we're eager to hear back from the Spirit what we want to hear,

What we think we're supposed to hear,

What we need to hear,

Rather than just being open.

And again,

The Spirit used the symbol of the radio.

When you're driving in your car,

Listening to the radio,

You have no attachment to the next song that's coming.

You're not sitting there trying to guess what it is,

You're not predicting what it should be.

You're just in joyful anticipation that something will come without evaluating it as right or wrong or good or bad.

So I was taught to tune to the frequency,

Ask my question and then wait,

Be open.

And then I began to perceive it in lots of ways.

I did fortunately hear a very clear audible voice.

It took me a while,

Just like tuning the radio to find the sweet spots,

So there was little static,

But I began to hear words in my mind.

But the words that I heard when I was tuned into the Spirit were more than words.

The words I hear in my normal egoic chatterbox are just a string of words.

But when I was tuned into the Spirit,

The words came with an essence,

A knowing there was something different about it.

That I could tangibly discern the difference between words spoken in my egoic mind and words that were transmitted on the Holy Spirit channel.

They came with a knowing,

I call it a gnosis,

A direct intimate is-ness.

So the more I did this,

The more I heard,

The more I liked,

The more I wanted to hear,

The more I wanted to hear,

The more I tuned in,

And it was just this kind of really building thing.

And I'll give you just a brief example.

My egoic mind from its worldly teachings was like believing I had to prove something to Spirit,

Like make a crazy leap of faith or trust or some crazy thing to prove my willingness or my surrender or any of that kind of stuff.

And when I tuned into the Holy Spirit channel and asked about trust,

The Spirit said,

I don't ask you to trust me.

I invite you to.

You don't have to prove anything to me.

You don't have to justify anything.

I simply ask you for whatever trust you're willing to give me.

And in that willingness,

I will meet you and fulfill that willingness.

And then you're free to give me more trust if you wish.

Now that sounded really true to me.

It felt really true in my being.

There wasn't demand.

I didn't have to get it right.

I wasn't expected to do something that I didn't know how to do.

I was invited really into a dialogue,

Into a relationship with this voice that I was hearing in my mind with this feeling,

With this gnosis.

And it was really cool,

But it was also a little scary,

You know,

Because we don't know what's going to actually come from that channel.

We don't know what's going to be asked of us,

What's going to be told us.

So my relationship with it is really not all that different than a human relationship.

It didn't move to deep intimacy right away.

It started with kind of like,

Let's get to know each other type thing.

How does this communication work?

How can we communicate in a way that I can understand?

And one thing I really also want to point out is the spirit knows how to communicate with everyone.

There isn't one way that's going to work for everyone.

I hear really,

Really clearly.

Some people get it in pictures.

My playmate and wife,

Cindy,

Gets it in songs.

I call it Jesus's jukebox.

She gets lots of messages in songs.

Some people see pictures.

Some people don't see anything,

Don't hear anything,

But they have feelings in their body.

So this is hearing spirit is really a misnomer.

It's really knowing spirit.

And how people come to know can be absolutely unique to them.

And why we need to open to this knowing more so than hearing words is because words are so open to interpretation.

You know what I mean?

What one word means to you,

I might not mean the same to me.

So the important thing is that we find the knowing on that spirit channel,

Not just the words because the words can still leave your mind spinning around about what does that mean.

But when the words come with that gnosis,

That energy of spirit that's part of that transmission,

You just kind of know.

And it gets to the point where the knowing is really what you want and the words and the symbols aren't nearly as much,

Aren't nearly as important.

That makes so much sense.

Yeah.

And it's something as I've worked more with people,

I've come to realize the absolute unique nature of everyone's communication.

At first,

I thought,

Oh my God,

This is the way it works for me,

So this must be the way that it works for everybody else.

Wrong.

It wasn't the way that it was working.

There were symbols about what had worked for me that were applicable for others,

But their actual experience of it was going to always be uniquely their own,

Which of course is the way it should be and the way it must be.

So patience is a really important thing too.

We're reawakening a communion,

A communication capacity with spirit that we have all mastered ignoring.

We sure have.

In order to authentically experience separation,

And I know from some of our previous talks,

You and I both authentically experience separation.

We were like as disconnected as disconnected could be.

So it's not that we necessarily have to learn this,

And that's one of the things that we kind of drag into our relationship with spirit from our worldly thing,

Is that we have to learn how to do this because we begin with the assumption that we don't know.

And back to my first point,

This communion,

This ability to communicate with spirit was given us in our creation,

Our autonomous creation by the Creator,

And it's perfect.

So we're simply reawakening a capacity that is as natural as breathing.

We've just ignored it.

That's so reassuring.

Can I ask a question?

So your first prerequisite that you so clearly and passionately said is that every one of us has this connection.

We all have it.

That's so reassuring,

And it just makes me just soften into like,

Ah,

That gentleness of it all that you described.

The second prerequisite,

Have you gone there yet,

Or was that we know how to do it already?

Yeah,

We know how to do it already.

We've made it hard.

Got it.

We tend to bring this belief that I don't know how to do something,

So it's really mysterious.

It's really hard.

And you know,

The whole radio symbol was the spirit showing me,

Dude,

You already know how to do this.

You're just looking in the wrong place.

You're tuning to where the spirit's voice is not hoping to hear it there.

And it was just showing me how,

Oh,

Gosh,

It makes sense.

I do,

If I want to hear different music or wisdom,

I need to move off of the frequency called me where that wisdom doesn't seem to exist.

So those prerequisites are important,

But otherwise we'll be spinning our wheels before we ever get get to communion because we'll be so engaged with our mind trying to figure the how out.

The how gets replaced with a present allowance.

Then we're really getting close to that communion point.

We allow this truth,

This connection,

This communion,

Which already exists to be as it is and attune ourselves to it.

That's very different than trying to learn new skills.

Reawakening some dormant capacity is different than trying to master like playing the piano that you don't have a clue about.

I have another question.

Yes.

You made such a wonderful point in saying that we ask our question and we don't keep asking,

Help me,

Help me,

Help me,

Or please,

Please,

Please show me,

Show me,

Show me.

We have to shut up.

That requires,

You said the word patience.

It shows me how impatient I can be because I want to hear it immediately.

For those of us who have those monkey minds that just,

You know,

That ego channel,

That me channel,

If we've tuned into the Holy Spirit channel,

We're there,

But that ego channel still feels so loud.

How do we shut up?

Can we perhaps have that temptation to get so distracted still by the me channel when we are asking for guidance?

Well,

You actually just identified one of the things yourself,

Soften,

Relax.

Deep breath can help get yourself into a physical environment if you're able to,

Where you feel safe and comfortable.

Anything that brings you to a state of softness and relaxation.

Because not being tense is helpful to be able to hear because this voice,

You know,

He calls it a still small voice.

It's not a bullhorn.

That's this chatter in our mind.

That's the ego thing that's so loud and obnoxious because it's trying to drown out this really subtle loving presence of spirit.

So relax as much as possible.

For me,

This began as kind of a meditative practice.

Some people do it through automatic writing.

You know,

It can come in lots of ways,

But relaxation is really,

Really important.

The other thing is if you are in a state of panic,

Help,

Help,

Help,

Help.

Know that request is always heard on its first utterance.

Repeating does not help.

It actually obstructs the channel because you stay tuned into the ego asking,

Asking,

Asking,

Asking,

Rather than tuning to the spirit where you can actually hear,

Feel,

Or know the response.

That's so helpful.

Yeah.

So asking,

Which at first can seem so sincere and so passionate and so important,

Actually becomes a barrier to communication,

To hearing,

To gnosis because you're so focused on the asking part.

Now,

As your communion develops over time,

Yeshua had this beautiful teaching,

The spirit knows what you need even before you ask.

So the asking questions is just a preliminary stage.

Later on when you can hold your attunement to that new channel,

That frequency called the Holy Spirit,

And by the way,

Everybody can do that because we've all learned to hold our frequency to that shitty voice in our mind.

I mean,

If we can hold it on that channel,

We can certainly hold it on an all loving channel.

So the more that gnosis arises,

The more you attune yourself to that,

You actually don't even need to start asking questions anymore.

It just starts to flow.

You seem to know what you need to know in the moment that you need to know it without bothering with asking the questions.

Words will mean little now.

What's that?

Words will mean little now because actually the really cool thing on that Holy Spirit channel,

It's a timeless communication.

If you or me or anyone else requires that it come in words,

We're insisting that it be reduced to symbols and stretched out in time because of course it takes time to hear words in a sentence.

But that Holy Spirit has the ability to communicate massive gnosis,

Complete gnosis instantly without the need for it to continue to be unpacked and symbolized and stretched out in the time.

Now,

This is a pretty advanced level of communion and communication,

But of course that's where we all want to be,

Where we don't even need the thinking mind to participate by asking the questions.

We're just living in the flow or the gnosis of that Spirit's communion and communication.

But that didn't happen for me initially.

It took time.

It took devotion to changing the channel,

Changing the channel,

And it's not like I changed it once.

Oh my gosh,

I probably changed it a million times before it started to stick,

Before I could hold that frequency for longer and longer periods of time.

And then the communion and communication began to get richer and richer and richer and deeper and deeper and deeper,

All the while using less and less words.

Yeah,

It's really,

Really kind of yummy.

It really is yummy.

Hearing you speak so clearly about the need for less and less words just really,

It gave me goosebumps.

It gave me just an experience of what is possible for all of us.

Yeah,

Because you know,

Love is a gnosis.

It's a feeling.

If we still need love to be communicated to us in words,

Then we're really attached to the words.

But I know everyone has had moments in their life where they just know something and they can't,

No amount of words can explain it.

No amount of words can justify it.

They just know.

And that's the kind of knowing or gnosis that's available on the Spirit's channel if we're willing to break our addiction to the ego and actually attune ourselves to that frequency.

And this is really all that Jesus did was he attuned himself to the voice of God,

The known of God,

The wisdom of God,

The power of God,

The gnosis of God so perfectly that the ego ceased to exist for him.

It wasn't a reality in his experience anymore.

There was only God and he was that.

It's not like that voice was of God and he was the body Jesus hearing it.

He and that voice became one.

And that's of course the Spirit's intention for all of us.

And if anyone's hearing these words,

Whether they realize it or not,

That's their intention too.

Mm-hmm.

I love how you said a few moments ago about being willing to break our addiction to the ego.

And we do have to be so willing.

And what you said earlier about Spirit inviting us to trust rather than sort of commanding,

Trust me,

That invitation to trust that as we have those experiences of miracles and a real experience that we can place our trust in something else,

That willingness to break our addiction to the ego becomes even higher because we know now that there is something else.

We don't have to rely on the ego and can place our trust in something true.

Yeah.

And we can do that without doing it through fear,

Without feeling like we have to sacrifice or prove something in order to be worthy of or establish that connection.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

Some of the stuff we come up with from our egoic mind about needing to prove our worthiness or prove our.

.

.

It's just crazy.

It's absolutely insane.

It is.

It is.

But I believed it lock,

Stock and barrel for the vast majority of my life.

Yeah.

And this is where the work happens.

So this has been so helpful.

Are there other points that come forward for you that you wanted to make about listening to guidance?

Be really patient with yourself.

I mean,

I understand the impulse to awaken and the chaos and fear that we can have on our egoic consciousness and this eager desperation to be free of it and to get this connection to spirit,

But as much as we want it to be instant and permanent,

It does take time.

It does take a willingness to cultivate this new practice.

We didn't move from our spiritual awareness to this egoic awareness in an instant.

It happened over time as well.

So be really,

Really patient with yourself and please do not compare your guidance to anyone else's.

Everyone's journey is so absolutely unique that what the spirit gives to another being will be perfect for them at that stage of their pathway and it may be very,

Very different,

Even totally contradictory for where you are on your pathway.

Don't mistake someone else's guidance for yours or that yours is appropriate for someone else.

You've got to live that inner communion and come to trust it and know it within yourself and free everyone else to find theirs in ways that will really work for them.

Beautiful.

But give up all the comparisons to how it works for anyone else because every soul has that unique connection and there's nothing more natural than it when you really find it.

It won't be an effort at all.

It will be like the biggest,

Most peaceful,

Relaxed ease into being that you can imagine.

But it does take us a little bit of a journey to get there.

So be really patient with yourself and drop any comparisons or any expectations of what you should be experiencing that's different than what you are.

Awesome.

You know,

John Mark,

I find my mind drawn to an earlier conversation that we had,

I think,

In one of the Miracle Share conferences about how as core students we tend to be very dismissive of the body.

Oh,

The body's not real.

Let's not even talk about it.

And yet in repurposing everything from having it be used for the ego's purposes and instead giving it to Holy Spirit for Holy Spirit's purposes,

The body can serve to help us wake up.

And you had walked me through a brief little exercise about asking Spirit to direct my attention into my body,

A place in my body where I can most easily hear the Spirit.

Do you recall this?

I do.

I do.

Yeah.

I call it the knowing spot now.

It was originally a hearing spot,

But not everybody was actually hearing,

But they came to their knowing.

So I call it the knowing spot now.

Can we do it together?

Will you guide us?

That would be fun,

Thanks.

So much like a child looking at a fresh palette that you're going to finger paint on,

There's nothing there.

It's just a blank potential.

So let your body be like that blank palette.

Just relax and let the body get really,

Really soft.

There's nothing to get right here,

Nothing to get wrong here.

Just let it really relax.

If your body relaxes,

Your breath will very naturally begin to slow down and breathe deeper into your belly.

And since we're walking around in these bodies and we're so incredibly intimate with them,

The Spirit will meet us right here in these bodies.

And the body itself is a big like radio dish.

It's a big attunement device.

So as you rest there in the softness of your body in great curiosity and wonder,

Just use the power of your awareness or light to become aware of your feet.

Now without any thought and without any effort,

Boom,

You were aware of your feet,

Weren't you?

And you know these are your feet.

You're not in doubt about it.

You're not confused about it.

Yeah,

These are my feet.

You know where they are in time and space.

You know if they're on the floor or in your lap.

You just know.

So now let go of being focused on your feet and just focus on your whole body again.

Now bring your awareness to the palms of your hand and just notice it didn't take any thought.

It didn't take any instruction.

It's really natural.

As soon as I said palms of your hands,

They light up in your awareness.

I have no idea how this works,

But it works.

So now just let your body be really,

Really soft again.

And this time rather than me directing you to a specific part of your body,

We're just going to ask the spirit a question.

So just hold the whole of your body very,

Very softly.

Spirit,

Please direct my awareness to where in my body I can know and attune to our communion.

And then just experience what you experience.

Where did your awareness go?

My chest feels like it's a giant light.

I feel so much love in my heart.

Great.

That's lovely.

Okay.

So now forget about it.

Just let it totally go.

And again,

Return to beginner's mind,

Great curiosity and wonder.

Spirit I really want to be sure.

Direct me to the place in my body where I can place my awareness to facilitate hearing,

Feeling,

And knowing your communication.

And then just experience what you experience.

And then just let it go again.

And then just one more time,

Just for kicks,

Just because we want to be absolutely sure.

Spirit please show me one last time where I can direct my own light,

My own awareness to connect to the gnosis of my communion with my source.

So what we've all been gifted with is a really,

Really powerful use of the body as a communication device.

Because most of the time we tend to hold our awareness or our light on our physical head where we perceive words streaming through our consciousness.

But in your case,

You were directed to your heart.

Now that's a very different place.

So for you,

The ego channel is probably your head.

The Holy Spirit channel is your chest.

So in order to change the channel,

Like we talked about earlier,

You would literally,

Physically move your light,

The focus of your awareness into your heart area.

Now just for everybody hearing this,

You could be really sexy and go,

Oh,

It's my heart.

I wanted it to be my heart.

For my mate Cindy,

It's her hands.

For some people,

For some women,

It can be the womb space.

I've even had it be the back of the knees or the kind of forehead.

It can be anywhere.

It doesn't matter where it is.

Find your unique place.

That was so helpful.

And learn to hold your awareness there.

Oh,

Go on.

It started in different places in my body,

But it changed over time as I got more open,

More of my body was now available to be attuned to communion until the whole of my body.

So I don't experience it in any particular place in my body.

It actually feels like it's this big beach ball that surrounds me.

It's like a three dimensional sphere of awareness that is my present level of attunement.

But start wherever the spirit just revealed it to you.

That is so cool.

And it was surprising to me as we moved the second and third time repeating the exercise that that feeling was actually a little lower than my heart and extended into my arms as well,

Which was surprising to feel.

And yet it felt so light and alive.

So that was so,

So helpful and so practical.

Yeah.

You know,

Have you ever seen those really big like huge dishes that astronomers use to listen to really subtle sounds out in the universe?

Well,

What we all want to get to is our whole body being that really big,

Massive dish so that we're receiving the subtlest impulses of spirit and they're not escaping us.

We're actually able to receive them,

Perceive them,

Attune to them and be moved by them.

So whatever spot was revealed and play with this,

Don't assume it's the same thing because as you awaken,

It will increase,

It will change,

It will move.

So just be really playful and curious and be in discovery about it.

Awesome.

Awesome.

John Mark,

I'm so grateful that you took the time to be with us today.

Do you have one final takeaway,

One final piece of wisdom that you'd like to leave with the audience and would you also share your websites?

I would.

And I would just like to invite everyone to join me in just a few minutes,

A few seconds of laughter.

That was awesome.

Well,

You know,

Jesus tells us we in our forgetting to laugh,

We don't have to forget anymore.

Yeah.

We don't have to have reasons anymore.

So play and have fun and let yourself laugh this crazy insanity away.

Our website is www.

Onewhowakes.

Org.

O-N-E-W-H-O-W-A-K-E-S.

Org.

And there is a teaching on there about the radio,

But that was years ago and it's not nearly as good as what I shared today.

Oh,

This is so good.

So good.

Thank you so much,

John Mark.

You're welcome.

So I'll leave everybody with just one opportunity.

If you'll tune into the spot you were just shown and feel the spirit's laughter in that spot,

You'll just gift yourself something of immeasurable value.

Feel God's joy and God's laughter in that spot and have a good time with yourself.

My heart is so full.

Thank you.

How about that?

I love and celebrate you,

My friend.

Thank you for your journey and all the ways that you share and express and extend love in as and through.

Oh,

Thank you so much.

I am beaming.

Wasn't that so much fun?

And that meditation,

Oh my goodness,

Never before have I experienced that feeling in my heart radiating out into my arms.

That was really cool.

And I'd love to hear about what you noticed during this meditation.

So please feel free to leave a comment on the show notes page or in our Facebook group.

Remember if you're overwhelmed by anxiety right now,

You're simply tuned into the me channel,

The ego channel.

That's all.

Please,

Please,

Please,

Please refrain from judging yourself for this and know that as you get better and better at tuning into spirits channel,

Anxiety has to fall away.

In addition to John Mark's takeaway,

I have four takeaways because he said so many yummy things.

Number one,

Everyone,

Everyone has a connection to spirit and you know already how to connect with guidance.

You just have to do some fine tuning since we allowed the harsh ego voice to set up camp in our minds.

Number two,

When you ask for guidance,

The request is heard on the first utterance.

I love how John Mark said this.

You don't need to keep asking.

You need to get quiet.

Get quiet by softening,

Taking some deep breaths,

Grabbing your journal and just writing.

Number three,

Instead of expecting guidance to come in words,

Allow it to come through a knowing or a gnosis as John Mark calls it.

Those are limits and it's the experience behind the words that is the greatest teacher.

And number four,

Check your channel throughout the day.

Are you tuned into the me channel,

Which I think most of us spend our days tuned into or are you tuned into the Holy Spirit's channel?

Remember that the choice is yours.

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Thank you for listening and we'll see you on the next episode.

Meet your Teacher

Corinne ZupkoAsbury Park, NJ, USA

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Christine

March 19, 2025

Very informative and lovely to listen to you, thank you both was very interesting. 💜✨🌙

Em

May 12, 2021

Very good..so very grateful for guidance showing me the way here, thank you. Has really opened up a new channel that was really needed in my growth & to tune into a different frequency. Thank you to you both. Never heard of you both until today. Thank you to my inner guidance for leading to self here. Namaste 🙏🦋

Sue

May 23, 2020

Absolutely one of the best talks I've ever heard!

Hannah

January 3, 2020

This talk was very inspirational and helped me let go of a lot of self judgement and just trust. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Debra

August 30, 2019

Thank you for sharing this deeply insightful and life changing talk.

Vanessa

August 11, 2019

Wow, so inspirational and enlightening. Thank you.

Sharon

August 11, 2019

This was inspirational, I will keep trying to tune in to the correct channel for spirit thank you. X

Sircku

August 10, 2019

I love this. Important info how to find your tune with the highest and get the connection. Thank you So much 🙏😍✨.

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