
I Do Not Feel Like Meditating. I Just Feel Like Being In Total Silent Mind. Is That Okay?
by Ekta Bathija
Listen to Ektaji's answers to different questions related to Advaita (non-duality). These teachings are aimed at experiential understanding of the Truth viz. the dissolution of the Subject and Object relationship.
Transcript
Music In open eyes,
When the mind starts talking,
You ask,
Who is asking this question?
You say,
What idle chatter hora hai?
What do I do about it?
That was addressed there.
So whatever the idle chatter is,
Content doesn't matter.
Why did that happen and why did this not happen?
Who wants what to happen?
I want it.
Who am I?
Then you go to the source of I.
Find the I.
Where is the I?
Can you find it?
Look for the I.
There is no I.
And then you will deserve into that witness only.
Only in Ramana's,
It is not called the witness.
Yeah,
He calls it the source or the silence or the quietness behind.
Because Ramana was 14 years old when all this happened.
He didn't read all these scriptures and have words to attach to it.
So this is very simple like DB language.
Goes into the source,
The silence.
Now you go there,
Just be there.
And every time a thought comes up,
Again recognize what is this?
Who's asking?
I am asking.
Who am I?
Again you go I.
So sometimes it's difficult for people to do who am I?
So then I gave them am I aware?
Ask yourself the question.
Am I aware?
And then you move directly to the awareness.
Yes.
So there are different,
Different ways just to do open-eyed meditation and reach that level.
So it's perfect.
What is happening to you is a natural progression.
It happens.
I mean that silence or whatever you,
I can't even say silence.
I know.
And it doesn't feel dry inside.
Yeah,
It doesn't feel dry.
But there is some,
I don't know,
Void.
I don't know what you call the term.
Correct.
I don't know.
Correct.
I don't say it is void.
It is a void.
But not the depressive void the way the Western society said the word void.
But it's a very silent,
Calm,
Peaceful address,
A trip kind of void.
Yeah.
There is no more seeking in that.
There is just a resting,
Relaxing.
When you rest in the night,
When you go to sleep,
You cannot sleep if there is want in the mind.
Right?
You can rest only if there is no more want.
And then you go into that nothing is the void.
Yeah,
Beautiful,
You started experiencing it with open eyes.
Fantastic in progress.
Just going with that.
But is there any more tip to go from here?
The void now sucks you in and you have to let it suck you in.
Okay,
People resist here because they don't like,
Oh my god,
Unknown territory.
What is this void?
Yeah,
Then they try to talk to themselves,
Put on music,
Have interactions,
Put on TV,
Nothing to keep themselves away from the internal void because it's in silence,
It's internal and you're trying to pull yourself out from it.
You don't know.
I'm doing that.
I'm actually doing that when I'm calm,
Like,
I think there's nothing to do.
If there is no savour work or anything,
I have to put TV or something on and I'm not really watching the TV.
It is just the way for my distraction.
Yes.
And I'm like,
Why did I put the TV on?
I don't know.
It's like something,
Okay,
Do this,
Do that.
But one area,
I observe that I'm doing it purposefully.
Earlier it was my vasana,
But now I'm doing it purposefully,
Not the vasana.
So now recognize it's not required.
Even if the vasana comes on,
First check,
Do I really need to pick up the remote and turn the TV on?
And you'll see it will go.
Yeah.
Wait for a window.
It's a very short window.
Either in that short window,
You take that action or you just observe that action.
This is where you practice atipa thalna with open eyes,
Just for that little temptation.
Now that you recognize that this is what is pulling me out.
You have to make friends with this void.
It's not very easy.
The process from here is in fact,
It's like walking in the dark.
It's like loneliness and it is trying to suck you in and your mind is trying to suck you up.
You know,
You feel a tug of war going on.
Yeah.
For some time,
You just let it suck you in.
Just be in that silence in that awareness.
Awesome.
And it's okay if certain habit patterns come up.
Their intention is to pull you out.
So anger will come to pull you out or whatever.
Raga for something,
I don't know,
Whatever will come to pull you out.
You don't pull out of it.
You become so comfortable with the void that slowly you will recognize this void is like an ocean and I can allow thoughts to come in and leave without reacting to the thoughts.
They are welcome as long as they just leave.
They are like strangers passing by and they just found this space.
And so they have to pass by here.
Yes.
And then you let them leave.
So thoughts,
Even anger can come in that even hatred can come.
I don't associate with the hatred.
I am this void.
Yeah.
When I grow roots in the void,
Then the hatred cannot pull me out.
No,
I will not pounce in and start drama.
Just watch it.
Okay.
Hatred arose.
It was there for a little while.
There was a burning feeling and some sensation and I didn't throw any fuel into the fire.
It went away.
This is now the true practice of where Satipatthana will help you with open eyes.
Now no more closed eyes after this.
Advaita says,
Just allow everything and let the witnessing consciousness suck it in.
This is where you just use your Satipatthana.
Just observing it come and go.
The more you get sucked into the void,
You will start feeling that you're walking,
Talking in open eyed time you're in Jhana 7.
You're in nothingness,
Absolute nothingness,
Absolute quietness.
Yes.
And when you see something come up in the mind,
That is nothing but Jhana 8.
It looks like a dream because I am not jumping in.
The moment I jump in,
I make it reality.
The moment I'm still in my void and I'm watching it like a spectator.
It is that dreamy kind of images floating around Jhana 8.
And they say a point will come where you will hit sensation where there is nothing,
Nothing perturbs you.
Even if a person comes into your space,
That person does not cause a flutter.
Yeah.
I started observing that already.
Like right now also when I'm talking to you,
The words or the sound is just coming,
But I'm not dead.
Beautiful.
Now stay with this all the time,
All the time,
All the time.
Don't let the mind fool you that you're imagining something.
It comes up with all its stories,
Theories.
You're imagining,
This is not right.
No,
This is the real thing.
I am the witness.
I'm not the body.
Today I think some 20,
22 year old kid came and she looked pretty young,
I don't know.
And she's like,
I actually felt after the Advaita session that I am not this body.
That I'm looking at somebody else's hands.
It's like beautiful.
This is not a theory by the mind.
This is really you getting established in the witness,
Recognizing that there is a separation.
Come on out!
Thank you so much.
