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I Do Yoga Nidra Meditation, Why I Am Still Having Trouble Establishing In The Knowingness?

by Ekta Bathija

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Listen to Ektaji's answers to different questions related to Advaita (non-duality). These teachings are aimed at experiential understanding of the Truth viz. the dissolution of the Subject and Object relationship.

Yoga NidraMeditationKnowingnessAdvaitaNon DualityAwarenessAttentionInsightPerceptionRaga And DveshaMindSelf AwarenessFocused AttentionPerception Vs RealityPersonal DramaExperiential InsightsFields Of KnowingnessSensesSensory Experiences

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Music Music That is because of lots of other meditations that you have done.

Those meditations are focusing the mind and that's what you were trying to bring here.

When we are talking about awareness on the Advaita part,

It is not about focusing the mind.

It is about the knower that is in the background that is knowing that Meena's mind is being focused on this breath or this sound or this guided instructions.

Are you getting it?

This knower is who we are talking about.

So Advaita is one level higher than yogic meditations.

Yogic meditations are focusing the mind meditations.

You are focusing on some sound object,

On some breath object,

On some external object.

Advaita is saying there is a knower who knows that this mind is being focused.

This knower is the one I was talking about that is the awareness or the knowingness itself.

This focus of the mind or attention of the mind is not knowingness or awareness.

Okay so obviously when you try to focus on certain parts of the body you are taking the mind's attention there.

Advaita says no that's not required.

You just see you are the knowingness.

The knowingness is already aware of the whole field.

Graduate from mind's attention to the higher field of complete field of knowingness.

You already know it like you're listening to me.

Your eyes are looking at the screen.

There are thoughts running in the mind.

Those thoughts are nothing but the mind.

This mind also creates thoughts of what it sees through the eyes.

Pink color,

The person.

So the thoughts are running in the mind.

The mind is behind the eyes.

Now there is a knower behind the mind who knows that Veena is thinking this,

This,

This,

This.

These thoughts are going like this and like this and this whole pool of thoughts.

Who knows?

The knower knows.

Is there anything behind the knower?

No.

That is the last step.

Yes.

That knower that itself is like a field.

It's not limited to this part of the body.

No.

It is like an infinite field of knowingness.

It knows if your foot or your toe starts scratching right now.

While listening to Ekta,

You will still know the little itching happening in the toe.

You didn't have to take your mind there to know.

Are you getting this?

So that is what Advaita is calling as awareness or knowingness or consciousness or Brahman.

The same thing is experiential.

It is not an effort that Meena has to put.

It's very experiential.

It's been with Meena whatever 30,

40,

50,

60 years of her life.

It's not something that has been manufactured right now.

It was just an ignored little element.

We were never really being aware of that.

We were so lost in the drama of the mind because this is where all the attractive scenes happen.

Right?

Yeah.

So this is what attracts us and repels us.

So this consumes our complete attention.

Like if a mother has a quiet child and a mother child who is very badmash and very noisy and naughty.

So he consumes her attention and the quiet child,

Despite being the good boy,

Gets ignored.

You see what I'm saying?

That's exactly what has happened.

We have ignored the good boy and we have given a lot of power to the bad boy.

Advaita says,

Because of your complete attention on this bad boy,

This whole suffering has happened.

There is Raga,

There is Dvesha and then you were caught up in your Raga and Dvesha and then you're trying to fight it and go away from it.

And this whole drama sequence has been created because of your attention hearing.

Advaita says,

Withdraw this attention and go to the good boy.

The knower.

The knower was always there.

You ignored it.

The knower knows.

When you are in this knowingness,

There is a kind of stillness,

The quietness.

This knower is untouched.

Now when you are here,

The third stage of the meditation is to take this knowingness out into this world.

So even when Meena is interacting with the husband,

With the kids,

With colleagues,

How much ever drama these other elements create,

If Meena is in knowingness,

She knows all this person is,

Is nothing but hearing for me.

It is just sound.

He's going on and on and on.

For me,

It is just hearing.

Is hearing different than knowing?

It's the same.

It's the same thing.

It's another label for knowing.

Same thing.

Is seeing different than knowing?

No.

It's the same thing.

Is touching different than knowing?

It's the same thing.

Is tasting different than knowing?

It's the same thing.

Is smelling different than knowing?

It's the same thing.

Wow.

This world of people,

Situations and things that I experienced through these five senses,

It is nothing but knowing or knowingness.

It is made up of a stuff called knowingness.

I don't have any proof whether this is an object made of matter.

I don't know that.

Even scientists are arguing about it today.

Even leave the scientists out.

I as a lay person have no idea this is matter.

All I know is my perception through seeing.

Seeing is knowing.

Yeah.

And through touch.

Yeah.

And if it makes a sound,

Then maybe hearing.

But I do not really know the objects of this world.

I do not know if an object really exists out there.

All I truly experience,

True experience is nothing else other than my own knowing.

Yes.

Even if I'm just thinking,

Is thinking different than knowing?

It's the same.

Got it.

So all that I perceive of this world is nothing other than knowing.

Yes.

Everything is just knowingness.

It is a blanket or an ocean of knowingness in which certain objects arise like waves.

They play for a while and then they go back into the knowingness.

They seem to have their own individuality because they have a different name and form in the form of my seeing only.

What is name and form?

It is seeing.

And seeing is nothing but knowing.

So everything is knowingness really.

Yeah.

There is no object out there.

Even if I'm seeing an object,

The tree which is very far away from the window,

That object out there,

Is it out there?

Where is seeing happening?

Is seeing happening outside?

No.

Right here.

You see that?

So Advaita says,

We do not know if objects are out there or not.

In true sense,

There is only pure experiencing of the present moment that I can really say is what I know.

Yeah.

Hypothesis and postulates and inferences and all these things are just hypothetical.

They are not true.

What I can really purely experience is only my knowingness.

I cannot even experience an object.

I do not know the reality of objects.

The only reality that I can purely see with confidence from my experience is my knowingness.

That is the third stage of the meditation.

Everything is knowingness.

Yeah.

Everything is Brahman.

Brahman Satyam.

There are no objects out there that I can confidently say are objects existing outside Brahman.

So there is no really division of matter and energy.

It is all just energy.

It is all just Brahman.

Jagat Mithya.

Thank you.

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